Minutes of the November, 2017 Heralds Meeting

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The November 2017 meeting was held in San Leandro, CA.

Aasa Thorvaldsdottir, Vesper; Edith of Swanesdale, Matins; Krysta of Starfall, Green Crown; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Angus Duncan Cameron, CoH Exchequer; eilis o’Boirne, PaL; Frederick of Holland, PaL; Safiya bint Zakariya al-Tayyib, PEaL. In remote attendance: Alizan dela Fontaine, PaL; Shimon Levi Ben Yitzchak HaKohen, Acting Blue Heron Pursuivant; Finna kottr Goðormsdóttir, Cornet; Evaine ni MacGreger, Black Mark Pursuivant; Elsa van Aurec, Acting Sea Lion Pursuivant

Heralds’ Meetings for 2017: January 7, 2018 (Sunday of Twelfth Night). Heralds’ Meetings for 2018: March 11 (daylight savings), May 20, July 1, September 30, November 18, and January 6, 2019 (Sunday of Twelfth Night). Meetings usually begin at 11:00 AM and will be held at Green Crown's home. “Road show” meetings, if any, will be announced well in advance.

The DEADLINES for submission forms and documentation are: For 2017: December 20, 2017. For 2018: February 28, May 9, June 20, September 19, November 7, and December 19. Submission forms must be complete, and received either via EMAIL or hardcopy by the deadline date at midnight to be considered at the next meeting (which is about 11 days later, except December due to holidays and the roadshow meeting prep time needed). If the forms are EMAILED, then payment must arrive by the meeting day. WALK-IN submissions will only be considered if there is time, but in most cases will be delayed until the next meeting so that each submission can be reviewed fully.

Walk-in submissions may be held over until the following meeting at the discretion of Matins.


Vesper (Aasa): Vesper has received a resume that is under current consideration for a potential successor. She still hopes to change over the position at Beltane 2019 (the new/changed turnover event for the position of Vesper Principal Herald). She encourages attendance (in person or remote) for the Twelfth Night meeting, which will start at 10am. Vesper attended the Kingdom Officer’s Meeting. Still looking for a Brachet Herald: Eilis will be in Oertha soon and will talk this over with some of our more remote heralds, as this position is a completely online presence with no physical location requirements.

Seawolf (Kean): No report received.

Sable Swan (Caolin): No report received.

Stellanordica (Rodrigo): No report received.

Exchequer (Angus): Happy to report that after much trial and tribulation, the 2nd and 3rd quarter reports are complete and they balanced. The WK College of Heralds has money.

Matins (Edith): Lots of submissions coming in. They all seem to have processed the changeover of address without a hitch. However, please reiterate with anyone thinking about submitting that they need to include an pen-colored copy of all armorial submissions and review what is acceptable as name documentation. She had several for this batch that were sent in as printer-ink-colored forms or with limited/insufficient name documentation to allow identification of the source.

Green Crown (Krysta): Matins has fully transitioned to Edith. Green Crown stands ready to assist any staff who need her expertise, however she will be doing her other job as well, so response time may be a little slow.

Banner (Anne): No report received.

Baldric (Lucius): No report received.

Brachet (vacant): The West Kingdom College of Heralds needs to fill this position. This position can be completed entirely remotely.

Brachet Herald acts as the WK CoH Commenting Deputy. They are responsible for adding comments in OSCAR to every LoI posted by other kingdoms. This process provides Pelican and Wreath with research information about each entry, including conflict checks (Wreath must have two separate individuals specify they have not found a conflict before he can officially declare the submission as free-of-conflict).

This position has no physical requirements, including geographic location of Brachet Herald. Requirements to do this job are: sufficient understanding of the current rules (SENA) to offer knowledgeable comments on both name and device submissions - at a minimum the knowledge to identify rules violations and the skill to run accurate conflict checks; reliable access to the internet and an OSCAR account; communication skills at a level to post information in a semi-public forum; sufficient available time to comment on up to 20 Kingdom LoIs per month. If interested, please contact Vesper Principal Herald with your qualifications: vesper@heralds.westkingdom.org.

Greencloak (Aine): Deputy: Elinora, Successor: Safiya (planned office turnover Purgatorio 2018). Last major event was October Crown, she had no paperwork. The Greencloak articles in the Heralds Handbook have been reviewed and Hirsch has been notified. She has a deputy! She has a current successor! The year ended on a fairly good note. There will be announcements at 12th Night as needed and she'll be at the next heralds meeting.

Latimer (Astrið): The consultation table went to October Crown and Cynagua Fall Coronet and had clients at both. The next scheduled event for the Consultation Table is March Crown. Once again, Latimer will be traveling and will not be in attendance. At this time, her back up does plan to attend March Crown, depending on the location. Latimer does expect to be able to attend both Mists Spring Coronet and Cynagua Spring Coronet, depending on their locations.

But both Latimer and her backup will miss June Crown 2018. If anyone is willing to volunteer to provide consultation at June Crown and wants the book boxes, she will be happy to arrange to deliver them to that person in advance. (Comment: Angus plans to attend at this time.)

Golem (Hirsch): On the Herald’s Handbook articles: most of the WK CoH have responded, some with more detailed changes than others, and some still have not. In the process, he did find some Law changes (especially relating to Order of Precedence) that he was not aware of, which he will now work to update both for the Herald’s information and the Awards information. The goal is still to make the Herald’s Handbook available to the populace at Twelfth Night.

The Awards List: there are outstanding reports going back to June Crown, and some of the oldest ones are getting to the edge of expiration. Communication: overall, Golem has noticed that the WK CoH needs to do a better job of communicating with each other, including an acknowledgement of receipt of a message from someone else. (Comment: the other heralds present agreed with this and provided a small discussion about how to change this within the WK CoH and the ease of responding to some forms of communication over others.)

ANNOUNCEMENTS / Other Business

Laurel requires now 0 (zero) paper submissions – we need only one copy and Matins doesn’t mail anything to Laurel, just sends scans. Effective immediately we will only require from submitters:

Name submission: one copy and documentation
Device submission: one line drawing, one colored-in copy of the line drawing, with documentation if needed
Badge submission: one line drawing, one colored-in copy of the line drawing, documentation as needed
Money: $6 per item. An item is a name, a device, or a badge.

Colored submissions are still required to be hand colored using markers, not crayons or pencils, and must be colored with “quality markers” so colors don’t change; we encourage the use of Crayola Classic markers. If the submission is not colored in true colors, the College is required to send it back. If the line drawing and the colored-in drawing are different, the College is required to send it back. PLEASE make a copy of your line drawing and then color it in; do not draw the design twice.



MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Vesper at herald@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds' website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm.


Contact brachet@heralds.westkingdom.org for external commenting participation. A central Cynagua external commenting meeting may begin soon, so watch this space!


The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.

August 2017 LoAR (printed October 18, 2017) (West May 27, 2017 LOI)

Cover Letter

From Laurel Outgoing: So long once again!

My brief tenure as Laurel is now at an end, and I welcome Dame Juliana as my oh-so-capable successor. I certainly enjoyed my run working with the Laurel office staff and with all of the Principal Heralds, and thank you all again for your service to the College of Arms.

One last item of business before I duck out the door: The College of Arms has a rank of Herald Extraordinary that has a long and honored history. The rank was formally created and defined in the July 1981 Cover Letter by Wilhelm Laurel. The intent of the rank is to recognize and reward "... those heralds who have greatly served the College of Heralds and/or the College of Arms and have achieved the highest level of competence in heraldry."

Master Andrewe Bawldwyn served honorably and well as my predecessor as Laurel King of Arms. I hereby confer upon him the rank and style of Herald Extraordinary, and charge him to register a title of his choosing.

From Laurel Incoming: It's Gonna Be Fun!

Thanks to Master Andrewe for his hard work, and to Mistress Emma for stepping in when it became necessary. Both of you have inspired me. Emma, who was previously granted the Herald Extraordinary title of Temperaunce for her earlier work as Wreath, has graciously agreed to continue as post-meeting clerk and as my drop-dead deputy. Andrewe has agreed to take on some writing projects.

I'm looking forward to getting started as Laurel and to working with all of you: the other Sovereigns, Alys and Cormac; the Principal Heralds; Laurel staff; and the rest of the College of Arms. I am at your service. As I start my work as Laurel, I'll be focusing on a group of projects that will sound familiar, including OSCAR 2.0, electronic submisssions, and getting precedents up to date. I'm going to be working on increasing communications from the Laurel office and among members of the College as well. Please feel free to reach out to me with your ideas -- it's gonna be fun!

From Wreath and Pelican: Tusks No Longer Registerable as Heraldic Charges

On the July 2017 Letter of Acceptances and Return, Wreath concluded that tusks are not period heraldic charges and that "we will cease further registration of tusks of any kind effective as of the January 2018 decision meeting." [Bowen Doyle, 7/2017 LoAR, R-An Tir]. In addition, effective as of the January 2018 decision meeting, Pelican will no longer allow the word tusk to describe a heraldic charge in names, including order names, household names or heraldic titles.

From Pelican: Some Name Resources (An Ongoing Series)

My esteemed predecessors established this series of Cover Letter articles about name resources and I am pleased to be able to continue it. Not surprisingly, I am writing my first installment about a source for Scottish names: Records of the Parliaments of Scotland to 1707 (http://www.rps.ac.uk/), usually abbreviated as the "RPS." The RPS contains transcriptions of the proceedings of the Scottish parliament from the first surviving document (from 1235) through 1707, when Scotland and England were unified. The transcriptions are in modern English and in the original source language -- Latin, Scots or French. Examples of names found in the original source language document can be used as documentation. Examples found only in the modern English translations are not.

Both sets of transcriptions are searchable. When searching for a specific name, I find it easiest to search for the modern form of the name by searching the "Translation" rather than the "MSS." I then toggle between the modern translation and the original transcription by clicking on the date of the document. Doing this gives me the various period forms of that name.

The RPS is best for finding Scots and Anglo-Norman names. Although some Gaelic names appear in the documents, they do not appear in Gaelic; they appear as they were rendered by a non-Gaelic speaking scribe in either Latin or Scots. For example, a Latin document from 1293 refers to Angusium filium Douenaldi in Latin, not Áengus mac Domnaill. Researchers should also bear in mind that not all Latin spellings in these documents are the nominative (base) form of the name. Name spellings in Latin change depending on how the person's name is used in the sentence. For example, because of how it is used in the sentence, Angusium filium Douenaldi is not an example of the nominative form; it is the accusative form, which cannot be used to form a given name in the SCA. The nominative form of Angusium is Angusius. If you are not 100% sure that the form someone wants is the nominative form, make sure that all changes are allowed so that we can correct the grammar as needed.

Documentation from the RPS should be sure to note the kind of name element (given name, surname, place name, etc.), the language of the source document, and the date of the document, along with a link to the RPS. For example: Dowglas is a surname found in a Latin-language record dated January 1488 in the Records of the Parliaments of Scotland (http://www.rps.ac.uk/mss/1488/1/5).

From Pelican: On the Japanese Name Tomoe

Although the given name Tomoe appears in the second edition of Name Construction in Medieval Japan, more recent research by Solveig Þrándardóttir, the author of that source, indicates that the historical figure modernly known as Tomoe Gozen was not actually known by this name in period. Further, Tomoe does not fit the attested patterns for period female Japanese names; the use of -e as an ending for female names appears to be a modern practice. Based on Solveig's new evidence, we will cease to register this element as of the March 2018 decision meetings without more evidence supporting its use in period.

From Wreath: Per Chevron Throughout

This month, a submission from the West presented a charged pile inverted between two other charges. Precedent requires that this be reblazoned as per chevron throughout. Due to the narrowness of the lower portion of the field, this would also have been grounds for return. However, when the guidelines provided in the August 2011 Cover Letter are taken to the extreme and made throughout, the result is exactly what was submitted.

Field divisions should generally bisect the field (that is, divide it into two parts of roughly equal area). Per precedent from October 2007, per chevron throughout can trisect, rather than bisect, the field. As such a field division would not meet the standards set forth in the August 2011 cover letter, we are officially amending the ruling to note that a per chevron throughout field division and a chevron throughout as a primary charge should roughly align to the chief, dexter base, and sinister base tick marks on the escutcheon submission form, and trisect the field.

We will also take this opportunity to remind submitters that single piles, piles issuant from anything other than chief, and charged piles are all relatively rare in period heraldry, and as of this writing Wreath is unfamiliar with any example of a single charged pile inverted in period heraldry.

From Wreath: Chinese Dragons

This month, we were asked to consider an appeal from Northshield that attempted to document Chinese dragon heads caboshed in a way that would prove their recognizability and allow for their registration. The submitter provided an example of a 15th century Chinese dragon on a carved lacquer box. The kingdom commentators supplied more examples of Chinese artwork depicting dragon's heads, in an attempt to demonstrate that the motif of a Chinese dragon's head (sans body) is reproducible, recognizable, and exemplified by the submitted artwork.

However, this badge runs into more issues than immediate recognizability. There are only two instances of a Chinese dragon's head in SCA heraldry, both registered to Raymond de Caen. The first was his device, registered in May 1989, and the second was a badge from August 1997, with a note that the same head appears on his device. There is an earlier registration of a Japanese dragon's head to Ryugen Morite in the LoAR of October 1983. As it has been 20 years since this charge was last registered, it must be documented as a charge under SENA's rules. Chinese dragon's heads are not found in European heraldry, and so fall under SENA A2B4, "Elements which are a Step from Period Practice."

Allowed steps from period practice fall under a handful of categories, including non-European armorial elements, non-European plants and animals, other European artifacts, and certain post-period elements. Chinese dragons (and their heads) are neither a European artifact, nor an allowable post-period element, nor a non-European plant or animal, which means that they must be justified as non-European armorial elements.

When Chinese dragons were ruled a step from period practice, our access to and knowledge of Eastern armorial equivalents was severely limited. Since then, we have learned much, and several scholarly books and articles have been published, but we have yet to find any examples of Chinese dragons in any period artwork that may be construed as armorial in nature. They are an artistic motif. We don't have a pattern in SENA or precedents that allow for European artistic motifs, let alone non-European motifs (in fact, SENA A2B5 specifically includes artistic elements that are not found in heraldry i.e. Celtic knotwork and Greek "key" patterns). It would appear that Chinese dragon's heads should likewise fall under this category.

By this ruling, we are explicitly disallowing Chinese dragon's heads, absent evidence which demonstrates use of the motif in an armorial context. Given SENA's rules about steps from period practice, we must also cease consideration of Chinese dragons for all armory submitted after the May 2018 LoAR, unless evidence can be provided of their use in an armorial context.

West Acceptances - August LoAR

Beatrice de Moreby. Device (see RETURNS for badge). Or, on a pale sable a trillium argent.

There is a step from period practice for the use of a New World trillium.

Bran Mac Fynin. Name and device. Sable, a bend sinister cotised between two gryphon's heads erased argent.

Nice Anglicized Irish name for circa 1600!

Finna k{o,}ttr Goðormsdóttir. Badge. Sable, a skull and on a chief argent an apothecary jar vert between two paw prints sable.

There is a step from period practice for use of a paw print.

Hannah Story Teller. Badge. (Fieldless) Atop a Roman dining couch Or cushioned ermine, a bunch of grapes bendwise gules slipped and leaved vert.

Hindrek Keuenpoeyck. Device. Per chevron throughout sable and argent, two Arabic letters Zayn argent and a pink flamingo proper.

Submitted as Sable, on a pile inverted throughout between two Arabic letters Zayn argent, a pink flamingo proper close, this cannot be a pile inverted:

There was some discussion in the commentary about whether this should be blazoned as a per chevron field, or whether it would be more accurately blazoned as Argent, on a pile inverted throughout azure between two sheaves of arrows sable, a stag at gaze argent. Most of the discussion centered on the width of the per chevron angle. We note that earlier period heraldry tended to draw the per chevron field more narrowly than later in period: the angle of the point more acute, and extending further to chief. (It could be considered to trisect, not bisect, the field.) Thus, for example, the arms of von Ortenburg, c. 1413 (Conzilium zu Constenz, folio clxiiii), showed a per chevron field very similar to the one in this submission. Moreover, the presence of three charges two and one on either side of the division strongly reinforces the impression of a per chevron field - and would do so, regardless of the angle of the point. A lone pile inverted was rare enough in heraldry, and when it appeared, tended to be uncharged; in other words, the lower portion of the shield would be uncharged. A chapé field division would never have the upper portions of the field charged. When the upper and lower portions are charged, then, this must (absent of other clues such as cotising) be a per chevron field. (Rorik smiðr, 10/2007)

As this submission has charges both above and below the line of division, it must be per chevron and not a charged pile inverted between two other charges.

While the above precedent allows for the bottom portion of a per chevron throughout field division to trisect, rather than bisect, the field, this particular line of division is far closer to one fifth of the field. Normally, this would be grounds for return. However, upon examination, this line of division meets the requirements of the August 2011 Cover Letter, taken to the extreme of a per chevron throughout. Lest we penalize the submitter for following the letter of the law, we will register this device. However, we are officially amending the ruling from August 2011 to note that a per chevron throughout field division and a chevron throughout as a primary charge should roughly align to the chief, dexter base, and sinister base tick marks on the escutcheon submission form.

Kharatai Chinua. Name and device. Or, a wolf rampant sable, on a chief gules a sun between two ravens respectant Or.

Naran Chinua. Name and device. Quarterly gules and sable, on a sun Or a pawprint sable.

There is a step from period practice for use of a pawprint.

Safiya bint Zakariya al-Tayyib. Badge. (Fieldless) A hedgehog rampant purpure maintaining a needle threaded Or.

Skegge Nyewcombe. Name and device. Quarterly Or and argent, a lion contourny queue fourchy sable crowned of an embattled coronet gules, in chief two ravens contourny, all within an orle of chain sable.

Submitted as Skygge Newcombe, the submitter requested the spelling Skeggi Nyewcombe if it could be documented. While we were unable to find any documentation for Skeggi that was compatible with the Middle English spelling Nyewcombe, ffride wlffsdotter documented Skegge as a gray-period English surname that can be used as a given name. We have changed the name to Skegge Nyewcombe to meet the submitter's request.

The submitter is a knight and a count, and is entitled to an orle of chain and an embattled coronet.

West Returns - August LoAR

Beatrice de Moreby. Badge. Argent, maintained between the horns of an increscent moon azure, a mullet of eight interlocking mascles sable.

This device is returned for violation of SENA A3C. Precedent disallows a mullet of interlocking mascles except as a primary charge. In the return of Solia Corsali's device in the LoAR of August 2013, Per bend azure and sable, a bend ermine between two mullets of eight interlocking mascles argent, Laurel ruled:

In this design, the bend is the primary charge, and the mullets of eight interlocking mascles are secondary charges. SENA A3C states that "Voiding and fimbriation may only be used with ordinaries or simple geometric charges when they are part of a primary charge group", but also that "Charges which are voided as part of their type, such as mascles...are not affected by these restrictions." However, this arrangement of mascles is no more complex than a mullet of eight points voided and interlaced, a charge which it certainly resembles and may be the equivalent of, and which is only allowable as a primary charge. Therefore, this device is returned for using a complex voided charge not as part of the primary charge group.

In this submission, the mascles are also a secondary charge, and a maintained one, and likewise run afoul of the prohibition.

In addition, the badge is returned for violation of SENA A2C2, which requires that charges be drawn in a way that is recognizable. No commenters could identify the secondary charge without reading the description.

There is a step from period practice for the use of a mullet of eight interlocking mascles.

September 2017 LoAR (printed November 28, 2017) (No West LOI)

Cover Letter

From Laurel: Some Useful Stuff (a Series)

As many of you know, as Pelican I wrote a monthly series about name resources. As Laurel, I want to continue this, now pointing out resources of broad interest. Send your questions and great resources.

This month, I want to talk about the List of Alternative Titles and the revisions we've just made to it. The List of Alternative Titles, found at http://heraldry.sca.org/titles.html, gives versions of titles in a variety of period languages. The titles themselves are of mixed quality: some are revised based on recent research and match what we know about period practice. Others are older and largely represent translations of the English terms into that language, whether or not they were used in that way in period. For example, Rey, the Spanish word for king, is a period term, but would never have been used before the name of a king; instead the general term of respect Don was used before his name and the title Rey or Rey de kingdom name used after his name. But it's a great resource regardless for those who want culturally appropriate terms for titles.

I picked this month to talk about this because we are rolling out a major revision to the List, incorporating space for gender-neutral terms for titles. It's a work in progress, with relatively few spaces filled in. But we hope that it will be the start of a fruitful conversation about how to provide useful options that are inclusive of all people. If you're interested in participating in this project, please feel free to reach out to Palimpsest at rules@heraldry.sca.org or to me directly at laurel@heraldry.sca.org.

From Laurel: Clarion Herald (Education Deputy) Applications Sought

After many years of service, Marie de Blois is stepping down as Clarion Herald. Therefore, we are seeking applicants for this position. Clarion has the responsibility for encouraging heraldic education at all levels.

This deputy is tasked with the following duties, plus other such tasks as assigned by Laurel:

Please email your resume (SCA and modern if appropriate) as well as a short description of your experience related to this job to Laurel at laurel@heraldry.sca.org. The application period ends on January 31, 2018.

From Wreath: Held Charges And Charge Group Theory

This month's consideration of the device of Rynion of Raven's Cove brought up the question: where do held charges fit when considering charge group theory and whether a submission must be returned for "slot machine."

The August 2015 Cover Letter established that all held charges that weren't co-primary that were large enough to grant difference if separately considered as a secondary or tertiary charge would be given the same consideration when held. This change to our policy required held charges to have good contrast, identifiability, and (in later interpretation) a recognizable and blazonable orientation.

Under this precedent, it's clear that if a primary charge is holding another charge that is not co-primary, this charge must by definition be secondary. However, it was not clear how this should be interpreted when the holding charge is, itself secondary. The held charges being on the field but not central to the design, are by our charge group theory considered secondaries, as is the holding charge. So are these charges in the same charge group, or separate charge groups?

If the held charges are not of equal visual weight and thus would not be considered "co-primary" if the holding charge were the primary charge, then they are not in the same charge group as the holding charge, regardless of the holding charge's placement within the overall armorial design. Thus, in the pattern being considered this month, [Field], an [ordinary] between two [charge A] and a [charge B] maintaining a [charge C], the ordinary is the primary charge, and charges A, B, and C are secondary charges, with charges A and B in one charge group and charge C in a separate charge group.

Please note that this means that, barring an IAP, we will not register tertiary charges holding charges that are not co-equal in visual weight, due to our prohibition against registering armory with two different tertiary charge groups on the same charge.

From Wreath: Period Depictions of Hands of Fatima/Hamsa Sought

Recent commentary has brought up a question on a long-accepted charge: the Hand of Fatima, also known as a hamsa. The charge, typically depicted as a stylized hand with the outer digits turning outward at the tips in vertical symmetry, was first registered in September 1971. Since then, it has been registered a total of 24 times, most recently in October 2015. There is a precedent from October 2015, in the registrations of Safiyya bint Khalid ibn Hamdun, that "A hand of Fatima is a specific depiction of a hand and is not a step from period practice." However, no images of the symmetrical, digits-turned-out motif of a Hand of Fatima has been provided. While most literature provided is in agreement that symbols described as Hands of Fatima or khamsas was used by Muslims and Jews in period, including in al-Andalus, placing the symbol squarely in Western Europe, the few extant depictions I've tracked down do not support this stylization. One example is a Hand of Fatima carved above the exterior arch of the Puerta de la Justicia at the Alhambra in Spain. However, the actual depiction is a cubit arm with a stylized flourish at the palm, and naturalistic digit placement.

I'm calling on commenters to seek out and provide evidence of the modern, symmetrical depiction of a Hand of Fatima in period artwork. Absent evidence that this artistic variant of a hand is documentable prior to the 17th century, we may have to discontinue its allowance in submissions as a modern design.

In Service,
Edith of Swanesdale,
Matins Herald

SUBMISSONS – May (2017)

Ahmad ibn Salim al-Hasib (NEW Device sent to Laurel)

Name registered Sept. 2008 via the West.

Sable, three armillary spheres argent.

We note a potential conflict: Sable, three roundels argent. (Alewijn van Zeebrouck, Sept. 1998, AnTir), depending on the difference granted for ‘roundel’ to ‘armillary sphere’ (and also wonders why this is not blazoned ‘Sable, three plates’).

Aine inghean Tuathail ui Ghallchobhair (NEW Device {what was a Badge} sent to Laurel, NEW Device RETURNED for conflict)

Name registered June 2012 via the West.

Per bend embattled sable and Or.

With the return of her submitted Device, Aine has requested that her Badge submission be changed to a Device submission and sent in for registration as a New Device submission.

Annale Breylin (NEW Device sent to Laurel)

Name submitted Sept. 2017 via the West.

Sable, an open book argent goutty de sang within a serpent in annulo vorant of its tail Or.

Asakura Shiro (NEW Name and Device sent to Laurel)

Submitter cares about the sound (none noted) and the gender (female) of the name. Submitter requests Authenticity for 14-16th century Japanese.

Asakura – No Copy Source [NCMJ] Solveig Throndardottir. Name Construction in Mediaeval Japan. ‘Asakura’ p.123 and 313 (under Historical Surnames) in the 1st edition.

Shiro – No Copy Source [NCMJ] ‘Shiro’ p.383 (under Historical Feminine Names) in the 1st edition.

The Japanese name formation <surname + personal name> is found in NCMJ.

Purpure, two tomoe in annulo within a Japanese well-frame argent.

Arranging armory that includes the tomoe in annulo in combination with another charge is a SFPP.

Caleb Maxwell (NEW Device sent to Laurel)

Name registered April 2011 via the West.

Per pale azure and argent, a dexter gauntlet clenched counterchanged.

Submitter’s original depiction showed the gauntlet much smaller; submitter has approved the enlargement of the gauntlet. Note for the submitter: this device looks like an extreme close-up of: Gregor von Münchhausen, badge (March 1998, the Outlands): (Fieldless) On a tower per pale azure and argent, a dexter gauntlet clenched counterchanged.

Elisabeth Anne Gray (RESUB to Laurel Name & Device, NEW Badge sent to Laurel)

Submitter cares about the sound (none noted) and gender (female) of the name. Submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes.

Elisabeth – under 'Elizabeth' the spelling 'Elisabeth' d.1572 is listed from 'Names found in Oldbury-on-Hill, Glouchestershire Marriage Registers 1538-1600' by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Friedemann) [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/oldbury.html].

Anne – 'Anne' from 'Late Sixteenth Century English Given Names: Women's Names listed by frequency' by Talan Gwynek (Brian M. Scott) [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/eng16/eng16ffreq.html].

Gray – 'Gray' d.1392 from 'Brass Inscription Index' by Julian Goodwyn (mka Janell K. Lovelace) [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/brasses/], under link: Index of Surnames A-H, letter G

Per SENA Appendix A, the name formation <double given + byname> is found in late period English.

Name was submitted as ‘Elisabeth Grey’ through Drachenwald. From the December 2015 LoAR:

“This name presumes upon the name of a 15th century queen: Elizabeth Grey. Name. This also conflicts with Elizabeth Grey, Queen of England to Edward IV, more commonly known as Elizabeth Woodeville. As Metron Ariston says, "She was one of the most prominent women of the fifteenth century, not only queen consort but queen dowager and --- through her daughter Elizabeth of York --- ancestor of the Tudor dynasty." [Elizabeth Grey, March 2009, R-Lochac]

PN4D of SENA states that, "For individuals important enough to protect, we protect all forms in which their name was known, including in other languages, but not hypothetical forms. We only protect names that are used either today or in the time when they were alive to refer to these protected persons." The 1484 act depriving Queen Elizabeth of royal grants of lands and revenues after the death of Edward IV refers to her as "Elizabeth, late the wyf of Sir John Grey, knyght, and late callyng her selfe quene of Englond" ("Richard III: January 1484", in Parliament Rolls of Medieval England, ed. Chris Given-Wilson, Paul Brand, Seymour Phillips, Mark Ormrod, Geoffrey Martin, Anne Curry and Rosemary Horrox; http://www.british-history.ac.uk/no-series/parliament-rolls-medieval/january-1484). The queen is occasionally known today as Elizabeth Grey or Elizabeth de Grey. Therefore, we uphold the 2009 precedent and return this name for presumption.

The other historical women named Elizabeth Grey are not important enough to protect.”

The submitter has added another name element, thus clearing the listed conflict.

Per pale azure and gules, an owl and a domestic cat sejant, a bordure Or.

Returned device through Drachenwald on the December 2015 LoAR:

“Per bend gules and azure, a bend Or between a domestic cat dormant gardant and an owl bendwise argent. This device is returned for violating SENA A3D2c, Unity of Posture and Orientation, which states "The charges within a charge group should be in either identical postures/orientations or an arrangement that includes posture/orientation". The charges here are not in a unified arrangement, as the orientations of the cat and of the owl must be described independently.”

The submitter has changed the orientation of the two animals to the closest possible match for a winged and quadruped combination to clear the unity of posture rule violation.

Note: Because the bordure is NOT split with a line along the pale line, it does NOT give the appearance of marshaling according to the current rules.

(Fieldless) A peapod fesswise per pale vert and Or.

Evert van Eyck de Vriese (RESUB to Kingdom Badge sent to Laurel)

This badge is a resubmission of a return from Sept. 2017 that was returned in part due to format in which the badge was drawn on the form.

Quarterly sable and argent, a mullet of eight points, a bordure vert.

Gerard de Canterbury (NEW Name sent to Laurel, NEW Device Returned)

Submitter cares about language (14th C England) and the gender of the name (male).

Gerard – ‘Yorkshire Given Names from 1379’ by Talan Gwynek (Brian M. Scott) [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/yorkshire.html].

de – standard locative article for Middle English (SENA Appendix A).

Canterbury - dated c. 1300 in Middle English Dictionary, SN honour (n.) “þe king þo to canterbury.. To nime vp sein tomas body & in to ssrine do; Arst he adde ileye an erþe vnssrined vifti ger.”

The Middle/Early Modern English name formation <given + locative> is found in SENA Appendix A.

Halla in mjóva (RESUB to Laurel Device sent to Laurel)

This device is a resubmission. Original submission (Quarterly sable and vert, a Bowen cross within an orle argent) was returned on the July LoAR as withdrawn by the West Kingdom.

Quarterly vert and sable, a Bowen cross within an orle argent.

Helen Margit Droman (NEW Name and Device sent to Laurel)

Submitter marked no boxes.

Helen – No Copy Source [Withycombe] Withycombe, E.G. Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names. 1947 edition: p. 148 “The common English form has always been Ellen, but Helen and Helena came in at the Renaissance.”

Family Search: ‘Helen Adams’ christened April 1582 in Cambridge, England, batch # K13052-2 [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5KT-HNZ].

Margit – No Copy Source [Withycombe], 1947 edition, p.96: ‘Margyt’ 1540. ‘Merget’ 1460.

Family Search: ‘Margit Skynner’ christened Feb 1566 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England, batch # C03145-3 [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NRPD-ZY4].

Submitter requested Dromain, but we were unable to document the spelling. We were able to document the slightly different ‘Droman’:

Family Search: ‘Jane Droman’ married Oct 1607 in Richmond, Surrey, England, batch # M01334-1 [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2DJ-896].

According to ‘Using FamilySearch Historical Records’ by Domhnall na Moicheirghe and Juliana de Luna [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/familysearch.html]: “(B)atch numbers starting with B, C, J, K, M (except M17 and M18), or P are generally acceptable.”

Per SENA Appendix A, the name formation <double given + byname> is found in late period English.

Per fess wavy gules and Or, a dragonfly Or and a thistle proper.

Katherine Grym (NEW Name Change sent to Laurel)

This is a new submission to change her primary name from ‘Elizabeth Grym’ to ‘Katherine Grym’, with ‘Elizabeth Grym’ retained as an alternate name. The submitter cares about the sound (none noted) and gender (female) of the name.

Katherine - 'Feminine names from Devon, 1238' by Sara L. Uckelman (Aryanhwy merch Catmael) [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/devonfem1238.html].

Grym - No Copy Source [Black] Black, George F. The Surnames of Scotland. On p.329, sub GRIM notes one ‘Cuthbert Grym’ as a pledge for Andro Fishar in 1488, and ‘Sir James Grym’ as a co-notary in 1541.

The English name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.

Margaret Grym (NEW Name Change sent to Laurel)

This is a new submission to change her primary name from ‘Margaret Graham’ to ‘Margaret Grym’, with ‘Margaret Graham’ released upon the new registration. The submitter checked no boxes.

Margaret - No Copy Source [R&W], Reaney, P.H. and R. M. Wilson. A Dictionary of English Surnames, p. 202, ‘Graham’. And in No Copy Source [Withycombe] pp. 206-207.

Grym - No Copy Source [Black] Black, George F. The Surnames of Scotland. On p.329, sub GRIM notes one ‘Cuthbert Grym’ as a pledge for Andro Fishar in 1488, and ‘Sir James Grym’ as a co-notary in 1541.

The English name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.

Meash White (RESUB to Kingdom Name sent to Laurel, NEW Device RETURNED)

Submitter cares about the sound of the name (none specified) and marked that she doesn’t care about gender. Name was originally submitted to the West, July 2010, as Mechtels Nadler, and was returned for administrative reasons.

Unregistered SCA use name Meash Nadler.

Meash – Family Search: ‘Meash Jones’ buried Apr 1616 in Siston, Gloucester, England, batch # B0841-2 [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JC9F-7YM].

White – No Copy Source [R&W], ‘White’ p.486 includes Berwaldus le White, d. 1190, and many others.

According to ‘Using FamilySearch Historical Records’ by Domhnall na Moicheirghe and Juliana de Luna [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/familysearch.html]: “(B)atch numbers starting with B, C, J, K, M (except M17 and M18), or P are generally acceptable.”

The English name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.

Músa-Valdís Roðbertsdóttir - M{u’}sa-Vald{i’}s Ro{dt}bertsd{o’}ttir (NEW Name sent to Laurel)

Submitter cares about the meaning (none noted) and the gender (feminine) of the name.

Músa – No Copy Source [Geirr Bassi], The Old Norse Name by Geirr Bassi Haraldsson, p. 26 s.n. ‘Músa’ prefixed byname meaning mouse (submitter wishes to preserve this meaning).

Valdís – No Copy Source [Geirr Bassi], p. 15 s.n. ‘Valdís’.

Roðbert – No Copy Source [Geirr Bassi], p. 15 s.n. Irreg genitive, believed to be ‘Roðberts’.

‘-dóttir’ - No Copy Source [Geirr Bassi], standard patronymic.

Bassi does not give examples of patronymics formed from a name ending in "t", but the addition of the "s" followed by "-dottir" seems reasonable.

The Scandinavian name formation <given + patronymic byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.

Sæmundr Ulfsson - S{ae}mundr Ulfsson (NEW Name sent to Laurel)

Submitter cares about the sound (‘Sæm’), language and/or culture (Old Norse), and gender of the name (male).

Sæmundr – No Copy Source [Geirr Bassi], p. 15.

Ulfr – No Copy Source [Geirr Bassi], p. 15.

‘-sson’ - According to Bassi, p. 17, the patronymic from masculine names ending in a single “-r” is usually formed by dropping the “r” and adding “-sson”, and “Ulfr” is NOT one of the exceptions listed.

The Scandinavian name formation <given + patronymic byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.

Tama Katerina Evstokh’eva (NEW Badge sent to Laurel)

Name registered Sept. 2013 via the West.

Per pale azure and vert, a clarion Or within a bordure argent.

Tytus the Wayfarer (NEW Name and Device sent to Laurel)

Submitter cares about the meaning (“I want to keep ‘the Wayfarer’ “) and the gender (male) of the name. Submitter requests Authenticity for language and/or culture (English) and will NOT allow the creation of a holding name.

Tytus – Linked from [http://heraldry.sca.org/names.html] under Name Article Archives: ‘Articles by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara Uckelman)’: ‘A Dictionary of Tudor London Names’ [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/english/tudorlondon.pdf]. p.25 under ‘Titus’ “Tytus Castle Baynard, 1582”.

the WayfarerCompact Edition of the Oxford English Dictionary, volume 2, p. 3715 dated to 1440 as ‘Weyferere’ and 1514 as ‘wayfarer’.

The English name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.

Sable, a lion’s head erased Or, a bordure Or semy of pellets.

Tziporah bas Baruch ben Eliezar (RESUB to Kingdom Name, Device, & Badge sent to Laurel)

Submitter will allow no Major changes. Submitter cares about the sound (Tz) and gender of the name (female).

Current (unregistered) SCA name Tzipah the Healer.

The name ‘Tzipurah bas Baruch Eliezar’ (and the associated device) were returned by the Kingdom in July 2017 as the WK CoH was unable to document the name as submitted, and the submitter had marked ‘no MAJOR changes allowed’. The submitter has adjusted the name to fit one of the suggestions provided by the WK CoH, addressing the reason for the return.

Tziporah – Tziporah, Tzipporah, Zippora, Zipora, Tsipporah are all variant spelling on the same name. Tzipporah is the name of Moses' wife in Exodus. Exodus 2:21; Hebrew meaning "bird". It is a fairly common Hebrew name for women. Found listed in 'Names from Hebrew Chronicles of the 10th to 13th Centuries' by Julie Stampnitzky [https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juetta/crusades.html].

bas - standard patronymic meaning "daughter of" listed in SENA Appendix A.

Baruch - means “blessing”. Masculine Hebrew name from Book of Jeremiah. Found listed in: ‘Jewish Naming Convention in Angevin England’ by Eleazar ha-Levi [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/jewish.html], and in ‘Jewish Names in the World of Medieval Islam: Men's Names’ compiled by Yehoshua ben Haim haYerushalmi (MKA Zachary Kessin), at: [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/Jewish/Cairo/cairo_men.html].

ben - standard patronymic meaning "son of" listed in SENA Appendix A.

Eliezar - listed as a given name in ‘Jewish Naming Convention in Angevin England’, by Eleazar ha-Levi, at [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/jewish.html].

The Hebrew name formation <given + patronymic + patronymic> is found in SENA Appendix A.

Argent, on a hand of Fatima vert, a snail shell contourny argent.

(Fieldless) On a hand of Fatima vert, a snail argent.

William Talemache (NEW Device sent to Laurel)

Name registered Sept. 2009 via the Caid.

Per fess embattled sable and argent, an open book Or and an oak tree vert.

The fess line on the original submission was drawn too low, the submission was redrawn with a properly located fess line. The submitter reviewed and approved the change.

Yseult de Michel (NEW Badge sent to Laurel)

Name registered Oct 2015 via Calontir.

(Fieldless) A chevron couped per pale Or and purpure.


Aine inghean Tuathail ui Ghallchobhair (NEW Device {what was a Badge} sent to Laurel, NEW Device RETURNED for conflict)

Name registered June 2012 via the West.

Per bend embattled Or and sable.

RETURN: Device returned for conflict. Conflicts found: Registered to Alexandra Gangefeyr (July 2010, Atlantia) Per bend flory counterflory Or and sable.

Gerard de Canterbury (NEW Name sent to Laurel, NEW Device Returned)

Sable, a goat passant argent.

RETURN: Conflict: (Fieldless) A goat statant argent. (Paul fitz Denis, badge, Jan. 2015, Caid) There is one point of difference given for (Fieldless) to Sable, but two differences are necessary. (Statant and passant are in the same posture group and do not grant a difference). This conflict requires the Device be returned for further work.

Meash White (NEW Name sent to Laurel, NEW Device RETURNED)

Argent, on a chief sable a martlet between two crosses formy argent.

RETURN: Conflict: Argent, a chief sable. (Templars, Order of the Knights, Dec. 1994, Laurel) One point of difference is given for adding the tertiary charges to the chief, but two points are needed for registration. This conflict requires the Device be returned for further work.

Additionally, the crosses in this submission do not match the depictions of any crosses we can identify. They are a combination of a cross formy and a cross maltese, or other cross variants. To allow for registration, the crosses must be drawn in an identifiable manner and match one of the cross variations allowed for registration. The submitter is also requested to change the orientation of the martlet, so that its body is oriented horizontally with its leg tufts straight down and its head held up above the body.

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