Minutes of the May, 2017 Heralds Meeting

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The May 2017 meeting was held in San Leandro, CA.

Aasa Thorvaldsdottir, Vesper; Edith of Swanesdale, Matins trainee/PaL; Krysta of Starfall, Green Crown; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Anne FitzRichard, Banner; Astrið of Swansvale, Latimer; Lucius Cassius Maris, Baldric; Angus Duncan Cameron, CoH Exchequer; Safiya bint Zakariya al-Tayyib, Pursuivant for Champclair; Eilis o’Boirne, PaL; Frederick of Holland, PaL; Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym, PaL/Archivist; Hannah Story Teller, PEaL; Faun Woods, Cornet.

Heralds’ Meetings for 2017: July 2, September 17, November 19 (in conjunction with and at the location of the Herald’s Collegium), January 7, 2018 (Sunday of Twelfth Night). Meetings usually begin at 11:00 AM and will be held at Green Crown's home. “Road show” meetings, if any, will be announced well in advance.

The DEADLINES for submission forms and documentation are: June 21, September 6, November 8, December 20, 2017. Submission forms must be complete, and received either via EMAIL or hardcopy by the deadline date at midnight to be considered at the next meeting (which is about 11 days later, except December due to holidays and the roadshow meeting prep time needed). If the forms are EMAILED, then payment must arrive by the meeting day. WALK-IN submissions will only be considered if there is time, but in most cases will be delayed until the next meeting so that each submission can be reviewed fully.

Walk-in submissions may be held over until the following meeting at the discretion of Matins.


Vesper (Aasa): Vesper will be at Known World Heralds and Scribes instead of June Crown next month. New Laurel Queen of Arms Emma de Featherstan, emergency short term replacement. Vesper is starting to look for a successor, please contact Aasa if interested. Less than 1.5 years left in her term, sooner than later will allow for training. Report to Laurel due June 1st.

Roster List, Vesper tags Flieg for help, letters will go out, but several people are not on the Roster who should be. Please send in information to Vesper (Safiya, Lucius).

Seawolf (Kean): The Principality has new rulers. Investiture went smoothly. I have a multitude of volunteers to help with court heraldry duties in the coming reign, and intend to focus on training newer heralds and finding a deputy.

Sable Swan (Miach): All Court reports have been filed and are up to date. The following events had reports sent in: Cynagua Winter Investiture; Wargy; Estrella War; Rivenoak Fool's Tourney; Golden Rivers Championship; Danegeld Tor Championship; Civil Unrest; Fettburg Championship; Fettburg Crab Feed and Demo; Cynagua/Mists War. I continue to look for a deputy successor, hopefully there will be more steadfast interest during Cynagua's May Coronet. We will have herald training and there will be a Potluck dinner court on Sunday Evening. I am in the process of going through the Cynagua Ceremony Book for revision.

Stellanordica (Rodrigo): no report

Exchequer (Angus): The CoH has funds and I am working with the Kingdom Exchequer to complete our Q1 report. The West Kingdom has been granted a variance to allow for payments from Warrior’s Gate and Golden Playne to the WKCoH. The variance requires the funds transfer into a Kingdom account and from there a check written to the WKCoH. The granted variance allows for one transfer per quarter.

Matins (vacant – Edith reporting): Submissions are occurring, we are processing them and working with the submitters. LoI and Minutes from last meeting were published. Thanks to Aasa, Krysta, Hirsch for continuing to provide training to Edith.

Green Crown (Krysta): Proposed dates for 2018 Herald’s meetings - March 11, May 20, July 1, September 30, November 18, and January 6, 2019 (Sunday of Twelfth Night) have been approved by Vesper and will be submitted to the Calendar and Web Minister for publication.

Banner (Anne): New King and Queen crowned, all court reports from previous reign and coronation in and approved. Continuing to work on updating ceremony books. Starting on the Mists books now. Sable Swan Herald is to send all ceremony revisions to Banner and Vesper, then Royalty for approvals. The plan is to review Oertha ceremonies after Mists and Cynagua. Eilis will serve as Banner until Anne is recovered enough to stand at the events, including Kingdom A&S and June Crown. Suggestions to future Seneschals: if Law is being changed in such a way that it impacts ceremony, some formal notification to Vesper should occur. Training continues to be available. Banner is actively reaching out to Principalities, etc. to offer her services.

Baldric (Lucius): Working with Vesper, learning and training. More information to come. Planning for Collegium will proceed apace. Consider offering classes on awards structure, what a person can receive once vs. multiple, and what the differences are between similar awards, for example AoA’s and GoA’s.

Brachet (vacant): Michel’s final report - My life has been greatly complicated by work and family and I just haven't had much time at all. I should look for a successor for the position unless Vesper has someone in mind to appoint. Maybe someone who is more remote in the Kingdom can take on this entirely online position, and continue to spread the responsibility.

Greencloak (Aine): June Crown is coming and from what I've been told this will be a standard double elimination tourney. I will need heralds for the day. I will not be at West/Antir War. The An Tir herald will have the lead but we have been asked to provide one hour of heralding during the event from those who will be there. If you can pre-sign up to work please contact me via Facebook. I am looking for someone willing to be lead West heralds for the war. If you're interested please let me know. I officially have a successor, Safiya, to take over at Purgatorio 2018. My deputy continues to be Na'arah.

Latimer (Astrið): Edith ran Table at March Crown and was busy all day long. Many thanks to Sine for working Table the whole time and Flieg for providing added help. The other heralds who referred clients or answered questions provided valuable assistance. Latimer will be at A&S and June Crown, but not Cynagua Spring or Mist Fall Coronets. Edith will also not be in attendance at these two events: open call to the College for heralds willing to run consultation.

Golem (Hirsch): Things are happening, lots and lots of court reports. Court reporting system is working very smoothly and Royalty are responding quickly. Attempt to convert to web-based information is temporarily stalled, but still planned. Looking for a Deputy to train and act as backup for the position.

Archivist (Gwenhwyfaer): Archival is happening, no special requests since the last meeting.

ANNOUNCEMENTS / Other Business

Laurel requires now 0 (zero) paper submissions – we need only one copy and Matins doesn’t mail anything to Laurel, just sends scans. Effective immediately we will only require from submitters:

Name submission: one copy and documentation
Device submission: one line drawing, one colored-in copy of the line drawing, with documentation if needed
Badge submission: one line drawing, one colored-in copy of the line drawing, documentation as needed
Money: $6 per item. An item is a name, a device, or a badge.

Colored submissions are still required to be hand colored using markers, not crayons or pencils, and must be colored with “quality markers” so colors don’t change; we encourage the use of Crayola Classic markers. If the submission is not colored in true colors, the College is required to send it back. If the line drawing and the colored-in drawing are different, the College is required to send it back. PLEASE make a copy of your line drawing and then color it in; do not draw the design twice.



MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Vesper at herald@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds' website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm.


Contact brachet@heralds.westkingdom.org for external commenting participation. A central Cynagua external commenting meeting may begin soon, so watch this space!


The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.

January 2017 LoAR (printed March 29, 2017) (No West LOI)

Cover Letter

From Laurel: Updated Position Opening

Mea Culpa - The previous position opening went out in an inaccurate fashion. The below announcement is corrected in both the timeline and the disposition for applications. Please accept my apologies, and I look forward to reading your applications, as does the Board.

The Laurel Principal Sovereign of Arms (Laurel) is the principal heraldic officer of the Society and the head of the College of Arms. Laurel is responsible for fostering the study and practice of heraldry, supervising the processing of submissions, and overseeing the heraldic activities of the Known World. Laurel is an unpaid position, currently requiring approximately 20 hours a week.

The position requires considerable tact and patience, armory and onomastic knowledge, supervisory ability, the ability to work within tight deadlines and coordinate closely with Wreath Sovereign of Arms, Pelican Sovereign of Arms, and other staff to produce a monthly Laurel Letter of Acceptance and Return, computer literacy and word processing skills, reliable e-mail and telephone access, and time and ability to travel.

Resumes must be sent in both hard copy to:

Laurel Resume, SCA Inc., Box 360789, Milpitas CA 95036

and electronically to resumes@sca.org and bids@heraldry.sca.org. Resumes must be received by July 31, 2017.

The present Laurel's warrant expires in September 2017. Once the application period closes, the names of the candidates will be posted in a cover letter for the review of the College and submission of comments to the Board.

From Laurel King of Arms: Sign Herald Deputy Applications Sought

In order to encourage and promote the use and equality of Sign/Silent Heraldry at all courts and events in which the entire populace attends, and to assist the sign/silent heralds in their dealings with the Crown, the Silent Heraldry Deputy of Laurel Sovereign of Arms coordinates efforts and communication throughout the SCA. Sign/Silent Heralds in the Society are heralds who express auditory information into visual and/or tactile information used by deaf and hard-of-hearing people.

This deputy is tasked with the following duties, plus other such tasks as assigned by Laurel:

Please email your resume (SCA and modern if appropriate) as well as a short description of your experience related to this job to Laurel at laurel@heraldry.sca.org. The application period ends on May 31, 2017.

February 2017 LoAR (printed April 22, 2017) (West November LOI)

Cover Letter

From Laurel Emeritus: So Long and Thanks for all the Fish!

This is not an easy message to write, so I will cut to the chase. My resignation has been tendered to the Board effective November 30th, 2016.

During a particularly trying time in my life, I experienced a membership lapse which went undetected until recently. Upon realizing my membership had lapsed, I notified the Board, and ultimately they accepted my resignation effective as of the above date. I am extremely grateful for the Board, and everything they have done. They have been a pleasure to work for, representing and guiding the College these last few years. The situation with the lapsed membership was unfortunate, but the lesson learned for me is the value of honesty. I have chosen to write this missive in an effort to fill in the gaps for all of you, so that you can understand what has happened, and why. It would have been easier to step away without explanation, but that is not the right thing to do.

I will not be attending Known World Heraldic, but will ensure the office regalia is passed on to Magistra Emma, who will shortly be confirmed as Laurel. Emma has been my ER deputy since I stepped up back in 2014, and has been dialed in with all key decisions, and actively a part of the CoA leadership since before my lapse.

I have greatly enjoyed my time as Laurel and while I regret that it has come to an end this way, I look forward to my next adventure.

You have all been very dear to me and it was an honor and a privilege to represent you.

I remain your servant,

Laurel Emeritus

From Laurel: Uh, Hi!

As you will have already read, Andrewe has honorably resigned as Laurel. With the Board's blessing, I have stepped in and been warranted as Laurel, to serve out the duration of his tenure. For those who don't know me, I am Emma de Fetherstan, Temperaunce Herald; I was Andrewe's ER deputy, and prior to that served as Wreath, sometimes also acting as ER to Gabriel when he was Laurel. I will be retaining the duties of postmeeting and errata clerk because I clearly need more to do.

Levity aside, I wish to thank Andrewe for the service he's provided to the College of Arms, and to thank him for his trust in letting me stick around behind the scenes when he first became Laurel. This fortunately ensures a smooth transition, as abrupt as it may seem.

As was announced last month, we have two positions that are actively seeking applications. The Sign Herald deputy is accepting applications at laurel@heraldry.sca.org until May 31, 2017. Resumes for Laurel Sovereign of Arms must be sent in both hardcopy and electronically:

Laurel Resume, SCA Inc., Box 360789, Milpitas CA 95036

resumes@sca.org and bids@heraldry.sca.org

Bids for Laurel must be received by July 31, 2017.

In service,
Emma Laurel

From Wreath(s): Beginning the Transition

As was announced last month, and confirmed this month, the next Wreath King of Arms will be Cormac Mor, with the official change to happen at Known World Heraldic and Scribal Symposium in Meridies.

This month, we have started to split the decisions. Cormac Mor made the armory decisions for the kingdoms of Æthelmearc, Atlantia, East and Middle. Brunissende Dragonette made the armory decisions for the kingdoms of An Tir, Ansteorra, Avacal, Caid, Calontir, Drachenwald, Ealdormere, Lochac, Meridies, Northshield, Outlands, Trimaris and West.

From Incoming Wreath: On Inverted Reremice

The device submission of Hallveig Alfarinsdóttir, Argent, a reremouse inverted sable maintaining in its feet a spear fesswise point to dexter and on a chief azure a crescent in sinister Or brought an inconsistency in precedents regarding inverted animate charges to light.

Recent precedent states that "there is a step from period practice for the use of a reremouse inverted." (Emelyn de Chelseye, 3/2010). However, this is at odds with the long-standing and oft-reiterated precedent that states "We do not allow inverted animate charges in SCA heraldry except when in recognized orientation, such as in annulo. (Daibhidh MacRaibert, 2/1999, upheld 6/2016)"

To resolve the conflict between precedents, as of September 2017 reremice inverted in any posture will no longer be registerable.

West Acceptances - February LoAR

Aine Redmond and David of the Wode. Joint badge. (Fieldless) A triquetra vert fretted with a triangle inverted voided argent.

Eva Hundsdotter. Name change from holding name Éua of Fettburg.

Genevieve of Champclair. Name and device. Or, a pegasus passant contourny purpure, a chief enarched sable mullety Or.

Champclair is the registered name of an SCA branch.

Gwerydd Aurifaber. Name and device. Per chevron azure and vert, a tree and in chief two triquetras argent.

Justin Brennan Dickson. Name (see RETURNS for device).

The submitter requested authenticity for "16th century English/Scottish." This name is not authentic because we cannot document the surname Brennan in English or Scots before 1625; however, it is registerable.

Linnet Hatfield. Name change from Linnet of Heart's Rest and device change. Gules, a lion statant contourny and in base a mullet of six points argent.

The submitter's prior name, Linnet of Heart's Rest, is released.

Nice late 16th century English name!

The submitter's old device, Vert, a chevron nebuly between two natural tigers combattant and a cross crosslet fitchy, all within a bordure argent, is released.

Raven of Golden Rivers. Reblazon of device. Gules, a seal embowed tail over its head and a bordure engrailed argent.

Blazoned in March 1986 as Gules, a seal naiant, its tail reflexed above its head, within a bordure engrailed argent, the whole body is embowed.

Sophie Brandeis. Device. Per fess gules and azure, a sun Or eclipsed sable and a sea-goat argent.

West Returns - February LoAR

Justin Brennan Dickson. Device. Per bend sinister vert and azure, a rose argent, a bordure argent semy of thistles sable.

This device is returned for redraw, for violating SENA A2C2 which states "Elements must be drawn to be identifiable." Commenters had trouble identifying the charges on the bordure, generally perceiving them as eagles.

Sophie Brandeis. Badge. Azure, in pale a sea-mew volant wings addorsed argent maintaining in its beak a fish, and a castle Or.

This device is returned for redraw, for violating SENA A2C2 which states "Elements must be drawn to be identifiable." Because of the abundance of details on the fins and tail the fish loses identifiability on the blue background. Since a held charge now counts for difference it must be identifiable.

In Service,
Edith of Swanesdale,
for the Green Crown Pursuivant

SUBMISSONS – May (2017)

Beatrice de Moreby (RESUB Device and Badge, to Kingdom)

Device blazon:
Or, on a pale sable, a trillium argent.

A trillium is a SFPP (Step From Period Practice).

Badge blazon:
Argent, maintained between the horns of an increscent moon azure, a mullet of eight interlocking mascles sable.

Under Chiara Stella, A-An Tir, November 2011 LoAR: “This arrangement of [eight interlocking] mascles is recognizable in this depiction. However, the arrangement is not attested in period armory, and so we are declaring its use a step from period practice.”

A mullet of eight interlocking mascles is a SFPP.

Bran Mac Fynin (NEW Name and Device)

Submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes. Submitter cares about sound (none noted) and language and/or culture (Target of 16th century Ireland) and the gender of the name (male). No authenticity request.

Bran - The name 'Bran' identified as a name used in the culture and time period the submitter wishes to express can be documented through two main sources: [http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Bran.shtml] and as a 16th century variant of 'Brian' via here: [http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Masculine.shtml].

Mac - the typical patronymic for the period, meaning 'son of'; in the case of capitalized (Mac), an inherited patronymic name.

Fynin - can be documented to 16th century, in [http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Masculine.shtml].

The Anglicized Irish name formation <given +pat. article + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.

Sable, a bend sinister cotised between two gryphons heads erased argent.

Finna k{o,}ttr Go{dh}ormsd{o'}ttir (Finna kǫttr Goðormsdóttir) (NEW Badge)

Sable, a skull and on a chief argent, an apothecary jar vert between two paw prints sable.

SFPP for the use of paw prints.

Hannah Story Teller (RESUB Badge, to Laurel)

Fieldless, atop a Roman dining couch Or cushioned ermine, a bunch of grapes gules slipped and leaved vert.

There is one Roman dining couch registered: Gaius Curtius Primus, September of 2015 (via Gleann Abhann), Per bend sinister argent and sable, a maple leaf inverted sable and a Roman dining couch reversed Or.

Previous submission, Per pall inverted gules, Or and vert, a bull passant argent pied sable was returned on the Dec. 2016 LoAR for conflict. The resubmission is a complete rework, having no design elements in common.

Hindrek Keuenpoeyck (RESUB Device, to Kingdom)

Sable, on a pile inverted throughout between two Arabic letters Zayn argent, a pink flamingo proper close.

A "pink flamingo proper" was defined by Precedent in April 1985: (q.v., Cherie Ruadh MhicRath of Locksley) Laurel ruled, "The color of a flamingo's feathers is apparently dependent on its diet, so there really is no 'proper' color." This has been interpreted to mean that flamingos proper could not be registered; however, pink flamingos proper have been registered since that time, including as recently as April 2006. The 1985 precedent is hereby overturned; a pink flamingo proper is registerable. It is dark pink while the tincture of its beak and legs are treated as artistic license. Its tincture is a color, not a metal. [Marion Baggeputz, 02/2007, R-Calontir]

As it is not a common charge, we have included 5 instances of the registration of this charge in the past ten years:

Tangwistel Corista: The following device associated with this name was registered in March of 2010 (via Atenveldt): Argent, a pink flamingo proper and on a chief enarched vert two hedgehogs argent.

Sigrid the Generous: The following device associated with this name was registered in June of 2011 (via Atenveldt): Argent, two pink flamingos statant respectant proper and a bordure vert.

Roselynde d'Angleterre: The following badge associated with this name was registered in June of 2011 (via Ansteorra): Gules, on a lozenge argent between four fleurs-de-lys in saltire bases to center Or, a pink flamingo statant sinister leg raised proper for Maison du Flamant Sauvage.

Anzelm Kowalski: The following device associated with this name was registered in September of 2012 (via the Outlands): Argent, three pink flamingos proper and on a chief azure a greyhound courant contourny argent. Blanket permission to conflict with device granted 201309O.

The following badge associated with this name was registered in October of 2013 (via the Outlands): Argent, three pink flamingos proper.

This device was previously returned by Kingdom at the September 2016 meeting: "The round white things and the drippy white things on either side of the pale could not be blazoned in a period way, so this design fails the period design test. We will suggest deeper, wider (and fewer) embattles on the pale, and that he register two ermine spots argent around the pale, then draw them how he wants after registration."

The submitter replaced the “roundel and goutte” charge groups with an Arabic letter, and removed the embattlements, addressing both concerns expressed by the College.

Kharatai Chinua (NEW Name and Device)

Submitter cares about meaning (Black Wolf) and language and/or culture (Mongolian) and the gender of the name (male). No authenticity request.

Kharatai - According to Mongolian Naming Practices, by Marta as tu Mika-Mysliwy, Brickbat Herald [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/mongolian_names_marta.html]:
Khara- can be found as Khara Gulag = Black Puppy and Qara Budang = Black Bear. According to “On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names” by Baras-aghur Naran [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/mongol.html], "-tai" is a suffix that shows possession, and combined with Khara- would convey the meaning "he/she who is black".

Chinua - Found in On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names, by Baras-aghur Naran [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/mongol.html], meaning "wolf". NOTE: although the URL mentioned in SENA is different, these are the same articles.

SENA Appendix A: Mongol names are quite different in structure from European names. All patterns documented in Baras-aghur Naran, "On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names" [http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/baras-aghur/mongolian.html] are registerable.

From a native Mongol: “Chinua” is in Mongolian like “Smith” in English.

Or, a wolf rampant sable, on a chief gules a sun between two ravens respectant Or.

Naran Chinua (NEW Name and Device)

Submitter cares about meaning (Sun Wolf) and language and/or culture (Mongolian) and the gender of the name (female). No authenticity request.

Naran - “On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names” by Baras-aghur Naran [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/mongol.html], mentions "naran = sun" as a name element in two examples of name constructions.

Chinua - Found in “On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names” by Baras-aghur Naran [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/mongol.html], meaning "wolf".

According to SENA, Appendix A, "All patterns documented in Baras-aghur Naran, "On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names" [http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/baras-aghur/mongolian.html] are registerable." NOTE: although the URL mentioned in SENA is different, these are the same articles.

From a native Mongol: “Chinua” is in Mongolian like “Smith” in English.

Quarterly gules and sable, on a sun Or, a pawprint sable.

SFPP for the use of paw prints.

Safiya bint Zakariya al-Tayyib (NEW Badge)

Fieldless, a hedgehog rampant purpure maintaining a needle threaded Or.

Skygge Newcombe (NEW Name and Device)

Submitter cares about sound (none noted) and the gender of the name (male). Submitter has withdrawn his “importance” note for spelling. No authenticity request.

Skygge - The submitter would like the given name “Skeggi”, as found in Bassi, on page 14. However, we can find no documentation for the use of this name post-1000, which would be required for its use with the desired English byname.

However, we do find “Skygge” as a late-period English byname, here used as a given name (Alton of Grimfells precedent) in FamilySearch [https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=75&query=%2Bsurname%3ASkygg~%20%2Bany_year%3A1100-1600~&collection_id=1462403] "England, Warwickshire, Parish Registers, 1535-1984," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VH6G-HY7 : 24 December 2014), Haman Skygge and Elizabeth Curtesse, 14 Jan 1599, Marriage; citing Clifton-upon-Dunsmore, Warwickshire, England, Record Office, Warwick; FHL microfilm 548,387. (This record has no Batch number, however).

Newcombe - Submitter would like the spelling “Nyewcombe” if it can be documented. The earliest Newcomb variant reported in England appears to be Alan le Neucument in 1175, per Reaney & Wilson, p. 321, under the header Newcomb. Other spellings include William Neucum 1183, Walter le Neucumen 1185, Richard Newecume 1195. An article on the etymology of the Newcombes in Devonshire can be found at [http://www.newcombe.info/Newcombe%20Etymology.html]. This author lists many spelling variations. The closest NAME to the submitted spelling is <Niwecumbe>, dated 1232. In many cases, the byname is "newcomer" and that is its etymological origin. In the author's speculation on the possible concurrent evolution of the name from <atte yew>, meaning "by the yew" and ultimately, "from the yew valley [combe]" the author mentions <Nyewcombe> as a possible intermediate form between <Atten yewcombe> and <Newcombe>. However, he does not state that <Nyewcombe> is a recorded spelling. There are enough spelling variations that there is a reasonable argument that <Nyewcombe> is a registerable variant. Do please note that <Nyewcombe> isn't an example of substituting "y" for the first "e" and then misplacing the second "e" in <Newecombe>. The second "e" is the equivalent of the "e" following "combe", and was pronounced. In later period, <Newcome> is found over 200 times in FamilySearch, [https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=75&query=%2Bsurname%3ANewcome~%20%2Bany_year%3A1100-1600~&collection_id=1462403] including in the same source as “Skygge” - "England, Warwickshire, Parish Registers, 1535-1984," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VHXG-54M : 24 December 2014), Alice Newcome, 19 Aug 1599, Christening; citing Wolston, Warwickshire, England, Record Office, Warwick; FHL microfilm 548,393. We also find the spelling “Newcombe” in FamilySearch, [https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=75&query=%2Bsurname%3Anewcombe~%20%2Bany_year%3A1300-1600~] Batch C03997-2 "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NG1H-9V9 : 30 December 2014), Susanna Newcombe, 23 Mar 1599; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 555,366.

The English name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.

We would appreciate the College of Arms assistance in getting His Grace a name.

Quarterly Or and argent, a lion rampant contourny queue fourchy sable crowned of an embattled coronet gules, in chief two ravens contourny all within an orle of chain sable.

Submitter is a Knight and a Duke (and also a Count) and so may display a chain of open links and a coronet on his armory. (http://op.antirheralds.org/index.php?with=Start&name=Skeggi+Nyewcombe&GO=GO)


Sonja (no surname given) (RESUB Device ADMIN RETURNED)


Argent, an orange fox rampant, on a chief sable a plate between a decrescent and an increscent argent.

In addition to this being received after the deadline, there is no name form, and this submitter has no name registered with the College of Arms.

The device would have to be returned in any case, since the fox (blazoned “proper” on the form) is not tinctured proper (which would be red with black “socks” and a white tip of the tail) but is instead solid orange, which is not one of the colors used in SCA heraldry.

However, some good news - on the cover letter to the January 2014 LoAR, we read:

“The "phases of the moon" motif of a roundel between an increscent and a decrescent has long been considered a step from period practice. As early as August 1989 it was declared "not really period style," but did not seem to be considered a step from period practice until September 1998. We know that the motif of an X between two Ys is a fairly common one in later period English armory. Non Scripta found evidence of a rose between two lions combattant and a mullet between two lions combattant, and Elmet added a fleur-de-lys between two rabbits passant respectant, all in English armory. Orle actually found a roundel between a decrescent and an increscent in Italian armory. We have never considered an X between two Ys respectant to be considered a step from period practice with any other combination of charges, only with a roundel and crescents, which is not consistent. Therefore, we are overturning past precedent. This motif is no longer considered a step from period practice.”

So, once this submitter gets a name and a fox with the correct coloration, this device will be good to go with no SFPP.

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