Minutes of the September, 2016 Heralds Meeting

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(11:00 am to 2:08 pm)

The meeting was held at the Green Crown's home. The next meeting will be held at Green Crown’s home (564 Broadmoor Blvd., San Leandro, CA 94577; email greencrownwest@yahoo.com for directions). The January 2017 meeting will be held in Reno, Nevada in conjunction with Twelfth Night Coronation.


Aasa Thorvaldsdottir, Compline; Krysta of Starfall, Green Crown; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Anne FitzRichard, Banner; Aine inghen Tuathail, Greencloak (drive-by); Astrith of Swansvale, Latimer; Sine ni Mharbhen, Glora Fjord; Angus Duncan Cameron, PE for Cloondara; Safiya bint Zakariya al’Tayyib, Cornet for Champclair; Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym, PaL/Archivist; Edith of Swanesdale, PaL; Geneviefve d'Estelle, PaL; Hannah Story Teller, PEaL; Faun Woods, Cornet; Carrek MacBrian, Cornet (drive-by).

Heralds’ Meetings for 2016: November 13, January 8, 2017 (at 12th Night in Reno). Meetings begin at 11AM, with walk-in processing no later than 10:30AM. “Road show” meetings, if any, will be announced well in advance.

PROPOSED DATES FOR 2017-18: March 12, May 21, July 2, September 17, November 19 (in conjunction with and at the location of the Herald’s Collegium), January 7 (Sunday of Twelfth Night). (Approved by Compline, will be sent to Chronicller, Calendar and Web Minister)

The DEADLINES for submission forms and documentation are: November 2; December 20. Submission forms must be complete, and received either via EMAIL or hardcopy by the deadline date at midnight to be considered at the next meeting (which is about 11 days later, except for June/July due to West-AnTir War). If the forms are EMAILED, then payment must arrive by the meeting day. WALK-IN submissions will only be considered if there is time, but in most cases will be delayed until the next meeting so that each submission can be reviewed fully.

Walk-in submissions may be held over until the following meeting at the discretion of Matins.


Vesper: Unable to attend due to KHTI commitments; last meeting before office changeover at October Crown.

Compline: Approves suggested 2017 dates listed under Green Crown. Taking over as Vesper at October Crown (probably Sat evening court).

Seawolf: Not present, no report

Sable Swan: Not present, emailed report:
Deputy: Margaret Pye; All Court reports have been filed and are up to date. The following events had reports sent in: Cynaguan Summer Investiture; Cynagua/Mists War; Thor Heyrdahl - Danegold Tor Rapier Championship. His Excellency Sir Walerich was trained for Court Heraldry. Sir Walerich heralded at Cynagua Summer Investiture. Margaret Pye continues to work hard. My term ends at Cynagua Winter Investiture, January 28th, 2017.

Stellanordica: Not present, emailed report:
Greetings to those recipients of this missive. We are having fun with Heraldry here in Oertha. We have a full complement of heralds as officers and many others that volunteer often to help with Kingdom and other courts as needed here in Oertha for locals and visitors. We have Viscount Sir Viresse working as herald for Eskalya, HE Elisheva for Winter's Gate, and Countess Alyssa for Selviergard with Viscountess Etaín as her deputy. We also have HE Master Khevron working as Wolfhound Herald for our submissions. I am looking for a replacement Wolfhound to give Khevron a break as he is ever working with heraldry, its artwork and web site and updates. We are all working together and I hope we can bring heraldry to all in Oertha.

I have several goals to work on for the next year. Something to continue and always improve is communication amongst the herald offices in Oertha. Facebook and our Oerthan Heralds Yahoo group help with that plus face to face meetings when possible. Training new heraldic officers is another task to help make transitions easier and 2 of the three Baronies have new Heralds but they are capable and seasoned office holders. Setting up Duty Heralds at larger events is a goal that others have suggested and I agree with, it would ease my work load at Principality events and other heralds at applicable events. Another goal is to improve knowledge by the populace on Reaffirmation of awards. Also to work as many reaffirmations as I can research. I am also fielding ideas to raise funds to help an Oerthan Herald to get to a Known World Heraldic Symposium or a West Kingdom meeting and event. Suggestions welcome.

All in all we some happy heralds in the principality and we feel we can successfully work duty, field, court, and reporting duties for all of Oertha.

Exchequer: Not present, no report (Aasa has bank mail from eilis via Aine for Dafydd)

Matins (vacant, Green Crown reporting for this position): Submissions are happening.

Green Crown: Still attending Wreath meetings, receiving encouragement to apply to be the next Wreath. Working with Aine, Edith, Safiya passing on how Matins runs.

Banner: Coronation happened; court reports were filed.

Baldric: Vacant.

Brachet: Not present, no report

Greencloak: For October Crown in two weeks, in Quincy, NEEDS heralds, for Saturday and especially Sunday when a double elimination tourney is scheduled.

Latimer: Consultation Table is happening. Neither Latimer nor backup with be at October Crown or Mists Coronet. Books are going to Oct Crown via Green Crown, Consultation will depend on available heralds. Latimer will be at Cynagua Coronet. Latimer again asks for a successor, she has been in place for a number of years and held the position previously for a number of years.

Golem: Coding skills are getting better. Awards List working towards completely online (as opposed to processing offline and then uploading), perhaps within the next calendar year. Most Court Reports coming in timely, most Royalty responding quickly, including Baronies. Some Baronies are behind and are not responding to heraldic prompts about reporting, Golem has stopped prompting when he found himself running in circles trying to get the information.

Archivist (Gwenhwyfaer): Due to personal circumstances ongoing for several months, and anticipated to continue for quite a while, has not been as active heraldically or even just in the SCA in general; still committed to submission meetings as a mental breather from the other stuff.

Announcement/request from Chancellor Minor of the West - Safiya - working to get points of contact with all the groups/guilds in the West. Looking for individuals to come have talks with the kids about heraldry and someone they can be pointed towards when they express interest. As we currently have no Baldric, this falls to Vesper.

ANNOUNCEMENTS / Other Business

Laurel requires now 0 (zero) paper submissions – we need only one copy and Matins doesn’t mail anything to Laurel, just sends scans. Effective immediately we will only require from submitters:

Name submission: one copy and documentation
Device submission: one line drawing, one colored-in copy of the line drawing, with documentation if needed
Badge submission: one line drawing, one colored-in copy of the line drawing, documentation as needed
Money: $6 per item. An item is a name, a device, or a badge.

Colored submissions are still required to be hand colored using markers, not crayons or pencils, and must be colored with “quality markers” so colors don’t change; we encourage the use of Crayola Classic markers. If the submission is not colored in true colors, the College is required to send it back. If the line drawing and the colored-in drawing are different, the College is required to send it back. PLEASE make a copy of your line drawing and then color it in; do not draw the design twice.



MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Vesper at herald@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds' website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm.

Contact brachet@heralds.westkingdom.org for external commenting participation. A central Cynagua external commenting meeting may begin soon, so watch this space!


The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.

May 2016 LoAR (printed July 18, 2016) (West February, 2016 LOI)

Cover Letter

From Laurel: Habemus Pelicanum!

I have received word from the Board that they have concurred and appointed Mistress Alys Mackyntoich as the next Pelican Queen of Arms, succeeding Dame Lillia de Vaux. Alys and Lillia will transition over the course of the August, September, and October submissions cycles, with Alys taking over as of the November meetings. The exact details of the transition will be worked out between them and released under separate cover. Please join me in congratulating Alys and thanking Lillia.

From Pelican: Estonian Alternate Titles

This month, we were asked to consider a proposal to remove some Estonian alternate titles and to add others. We thank ffride wlffsdotter for her research.

ffride provided information that the Estonian language was spoken by peasants, but was recorded in German. It is more likely that the nobility in Estonia would have used Low German. Therefore, for the purposes of recreation, the use of German for an Estonian persona may be a better option.

Töllöö argued in commentary that the modern standardized forms of the titles should be used, rather than the period forms, as they would be more understandable and less jarring to native Estonian speakers in the Society. However, in recent years, the Society has been replacing modern titles with period forms whenever possible in the official list of alternate titles. Therefore, we will continue to do so, as it allows for better recreation, although we note that the Society structure of awards does not perfectly "map" to how the real-world titles were used in our period. Members of the Society can continue to use the modern forms if they prefer.

We have provided the normalized forms for informational purposes if they differ from the form already on the alternate titles list.

The following changes are made:

West Acceptances - May LoAR

Akbar Khayamm. Reblazon of device. Pean, on a sun Or a wolf's head erased sable.

Reblazoned as Pean, on _ sun Or a wolf's head erased sable. on the July 2008 LoAR, we are adding the article.

Catherine de Mailly. Name change from holding name Catherine of Golden Rivers.

This name was pended to allow discussion of whether it conflicts with the registered name Katherine O'Mally when de Mailly is Anglicized to something like "de Mail-ee" instead of the French pronunciation "de May-ee".

In particular, we requested commentary on whether the change from O' to de is enough to clear this name under PN3C2 of SENA, which states:

Names are substantially different if a single syllable between them (excluding articles and prepositions, such as de and the) is changed in both sound and appearance as described here. The addition or removal of a syllable makes two names substantially different in sound. Two names are also substantially different if a syllable is substantially changed in sound and appearance. This means that the vowel and the consonant (or group of consonants) on one side of the vowel is different between the two names. In either case, the change in spelling (including addition or removal of letters) must affect at least two letters in that syllable to be substantial.

If the names being compared were O Malley versus de Mailly, only the preposition de is discounted under this standard. The removal of O' is a significant change (the removal of a syllable), so these names do not conflict.

This name is also clear under PN3C1 of SENA. The particle O' has been changed to de, and the second syllable of the byname has been changed ("Mail-" or "May-" versus "Mal-").

This name was pended from the December 2015 Letter of Acceptances and Returns.

Safiya bint Zakariya al-Tayyib. Device. Purpure, a needle threaded and on a chief Or two mullets of eight points purpure.

West Returns - May LoAR

Éua ingen Tuathail. Name.

Unfortunately, this name conflicts with the registered name Aoife inghean Tuathail. Although the two names are different in appearance, they are almost identical in sound. Therefore, we are unable to register this name.

The submitter's device was registered under the holding name Éua of Fettburg.

This name was pended from the December 2015 Letter of Acceptances and Returns.

June 2016 LoAR (printed September 6, 2016) (West Mar 10, 2016 LOI)

Cover Letter

From Wreath: More on Held Charges

This month we considered the question of how we count difference for changes to held charges, in the case of Déirdre inghean Eithne (Meridies). The question was raised of whether the position on the field of the held charge could be counted as a DC. In this case, the bird in the protected device was holding the charge in its beak, while in the submission, the bird was holding the charge in its claw. The way in which the bird holds a charge is considered an artistic detail that does provide a DC. Similarly, the way in which the bird holds the secondary charge dictates its position and thus the location on the field does not provide a DC either.

From Wreath: Twinkle Twinkle Little Spark

This month, once again, a submission came up for discussion with an estencelly field where the sparks were grouped in two and one configuration rather than one and two.

Commenters cited the precedent from March 2013:

"Please advise the submitter to draw the sparks as groupings of roundels one and two, not two and one. This depiction of sparks two and one may not be registerable without period evidence in the future." [Jan Langhe ten Wald, A-Æthelmearc]

They also noted that in November 2015 that warning wasn't repeated, as the decision simply stated:

"Please advise the submitter to draw the sparks as groupings of roundels one and two, not two and one." [Evangeline Bajolet, November 2015 ,A-Calontir].

Gerard Brault's "Early Blazon" defines "Estencelé" as "powdered with sparks, i.e. clusters of three or four small dots". Although the modern depiction he gives has the estencely as the generally accepted one and two depiction, he goes on further to cite " Medieval practice tolerated considerable diversity in verbal as well as pictorial blazon". Thus it seems difficult to consider it as a firm endorsement of a single possible depiction for estencely fields. Although both he and the cited "Scintillatum Auro: The Spark in Armory" by H. Stanford London mention that it might have been in some cases a form of diapering it was also in cases specifically blazoned and can't be considered accidental. Of note, the figure 2 in "Scintillatum Auro: The Spark in Armory" has the sparks in various orientations.

Furthermore, we can see in a period armorial that period heraldic artists were not necessarily particular about maintaining a constant orientation for sparks as can be seen on the folio 144r of the Armorial de Gilles le Bouvier, dit Berry. (http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85285803/f295.item.zoom).

Based on the variability of period depiction, we are declaring the two and one depiction of sparks registerable, with a note that the one and two arrangement of sparks would appear more likely. No difference will be granted for the orientation of the sparks and that orientation will not be blazoned.

West Acceptances - June LoAR

Aleksandra Solov'eva. Name and device. Per saltire gules and Or, in pale two Ukrainian trident heads and in fess two martlets counterchanged.

The submitter requested authenticity for a 14th to 16th century Russian name. The given name is dated to 1389 and the byname to c.1596 in Wickenden. This source does not give all instances of a name, just the earliest, so this name may be authentic for 16th century Russia, but we do not know for sure.

Bárekr Úlfsson. Device. Vert, on a saltire argent a wolf rampant sable.

Brid Hecgwiht and Jared Galien. Joint badge. (Fieldless) A lion's jambe per pale sable and argent sustaining in chief a crescent per pale argent and sable.

Brid Hecgwiht and Jared Galien. Joint badge. (Fieldless) A panther's jambe argent spotted in various tinctures sustaining in chief a flame proper.

Cailin de Erskine. Name and device. Argent, a wyvern passant vert and on a chief embattled azure three triquetrae argent.

This name combines a Scottish Gaelic given name and an English byname. This is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA.

Caillech inghean Bhrain. Name.

Submitted as Caillech inghean Bhrain, the patronym was changed in kingdom to inghean Brain to try to match the documentation that could be found. However, the submitted patronym is a post-1200 form that should be lenited per Sharon Krossa's "Quick and Easy Gaelic Names" (http://medievalscotland.org/scotnames/quickgaelicbynames/index.shtml#simplepatronymicbyname). We have restored the spelling of the byname to the submitted form, which had been lenited, in order to register this name.

The given name Caillech was documented in the Letter of Intent as a form of an element found in the names Cailleach Dhe, Cailleach Domnaill, and Cailleach Fhinnein. In these cases, however, Caileach is part of a devotional name meaning "veiled [person]", so the attested examples mean "God's nun", "Domhnall's nun", and "Finnen's nun", respectively. Therefore, the cited examples do not support the use of Cailleach as a given name. In commentary, Rocket found Caillech ingen Dunchadha as the name of an 8th century queen in the Annals of Tigernach, so we are able to register this given name as submitted.

The submitter requested authenticity for "late 13th early 14th century North Britain". The given name is a Gaelic name dated to the 8th century and the byname is a post-1200 Gaelic form. Therefore, this name is not authentic for the submitter's desired time period, but it is registerable.

The submitter may wish to know that an authentic Old or Middle Irish Gaelic form (appropriate up to c.1200) is Caillech ingen Brain. If the submitter prefers this form, she can submit a request for reconsideration.

Caitilin Cameron of Wick. Device. Purpure, a bend argent between two natural tigers rampant argent striped sable.

The submitter has permission to conflict with the device of Felicia Margery Amondesham: Purpure, a bend between two hands argent.

There is a step from period practice for the use of natural tigers.

Catrin Fitzpatrick. Device. Argent, a domestic cat sejant vert, an orle of crescents azure.

Cloondara, Shire of. Badge. Or, three chevronels vert, overall two towers in fess gules.

Fionnghuala of Cynagua. Name and device. Argent, a domestic cat sejant sable maintaining beneath its forepaw a hurt, on a chief enarched azure a rose between two triquetrae argent.

Submitted as Fionnghuala Of Cynagua, the name was changed in kingdom to Fionnghuala of Cynagua to use the correct form required by the use of the branch name allowance. Although the submission form indicated that no changes were allowed, she specifically authorized this change in capitalization in correspondence with kingdom.

Gwen Seis. Name and device. Or, three willow-herb blossoms purpure.

The submitter requested authenticity for "13th-14th Century Welsh". This name is authentic for Wales in the 13th century, meeting this request.

The willow-herb blossoms were documented from Gerard's Herbal of 1597.

Jógrímr Dýrvesson. Name.

The given name is a plausible form of the attested early 13th century Iogrimr, found in Lind, s.n. Iógrímr.

The byname Dýrvésson is a patronym formed from the constructed given name Dýrvér, itself formed from the themes Dýr- and Ver-/-ver. Dýr- is found as a first element in several feminine given names and is found as a short form used as a stand-alone masculine given name, Dýri. The second element -ver is found in several masculine given names. Therefore, we can give the submitter the benefit of the doubt that the patronym is formed correctly overall.

Submitted as Jógrímr Dýrvésson, Metron Ariston noted in commentary that the marking on the last syllable of the father's name usually is omitted when forming a patronym from a name ending in -vér. For example, Randvér becomes Randvesson (citing Lind). Therefore, we have dropped the second accent in the byname.

Marc de Arundel. Device. Sable, a tree blasted and eradicated between six mullets of four points three and three, a bordure embattled argent.

Although visually reminiscent of the protected armory of Gondor, the previous conflict with the Stewards of Gondor has been cleared by addition of the bordure.

Melisant d'Andra. Name and device. Azure, a decrescent argent between three bees argent marked sable, a chief checky sable and argent.

This name combines an English given name and a French byname. This is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA.

Pól mac Seáin. Name and device. Per fess argent and Or, in saltire two bulrushes proper slipped and leaved vert, in chief three ravens sable.

Nice 15th century Irish Gaelic name!

Batonvert found that bulrushes, or cattails, are found in period armory, in the arms of Mehlhosen, 1605 [Siebmacher, plate 72]. Parker's Glossary suggests that bulrushes would be the usual term in English blazon.

The "proper" coloration refers only to the "mace head", with the rest being heraldic vert.

Seán Ó Floinn of the Mists. Device. Azure, in pale an arrow fesswise Or sustained by a cubit arm argent, a chief wavy Or.

Vittorio Bardesano. Device. Sable, a peacock and in canton a pomegranate Or.

Ysmay Pendreth. Name and device. Azure, a rose proper en soleil Or, a base wavy argent.

West Returns - June LoAR


In Service,
Krysta of Starfall,
Green Crown Pursuivant

SUBMISSONS – September (2016)

Alice Bardeslay (NEW Name and Device sent to Laurel)

Will accept changes. Submitter cares about the sound of the name and would like it to sound similar to the original (by which she means “Alice Bardeslay”). Gender is marked both female and don’t care.

Alice – dated to 1449 in “Feminine Given Names in a Dictionary of English Surnames” by Talan Gwynek http://heraldry.sca.org/names/reaneyAG.html. The earliest date given for Alice is 1147.

Bardeslay – from “Names from 15th century York” by Karen Larsdotter [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/york15/surnames-alphabetical.htm].

The English name formation [given + byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Argent a serpent erect, on a chief vert four G-clefs argent

We will suggest to the submitter that the G-clefs need to be more bold, and that the chief could be thicker.

Derelei filia Uoret (Device Resubmission to Laurel, sent to Laurel; Name registered June 2015)

Azure, on a chevron cotised Or three crescents pendant azure.

On the June 2015 LoAR Wreath wrote: “This device is returned for redraw. The cotises are too thin and too close to the chevron and become undistinguishable from the chevron.” This redrawing resolves these problems.

Fergus MacKay (NEW Name and Device sent to Laurel)

Submitter will accept changes, most important is sound (none noted), desired gender male. Authenticity request for 12th century time period.

Fergus – O’corrain & Maguire p 97, “Extremely common in the early period” “survived even in county Dublin down to the end of the 19th century.” Also in Black, p. 259, under the header Fergus, where it is listed as Middle Gaelic.

MacKay – Black p. 522 SN Mackay dated to 1408. Also, in the June 2016 LoAR, Pelican writes: “William MacKay of Glasgow. The spelling MacKay was not documented in the Letter of Intent. The spelling Mackay is found in the FamilySearch Historical Records, dated to 1643. The submitted capitalization is also reasonable in our period.”

The Anglicized Irish name formation [given + patronym], Scots name formation [given + patronym], and Scots Gaelic name formation [given + patronym] are all found in SENA Appendix A. Per SENA Appendix C, Irish Gaelic, Scots Gaelic, and Scots from corresponding time periods are all compatible.

Sable, a chevron inverted gules fimbriated argent, and in base a hammer argent.

Hannah Story Teller (NEW Badge sent to Laurel, Name registered Dec. 2013)

Per pall inverted gules, Or and vert, a bull passant argent marked sable.

We note these registered items:

Willow de Wisp; The following badge associated with this name was registered in August of 1979 (via Ansteorra): Vert, a bull passant argent, pied gules, armed and unguled sable, horns tipped argent. for Clan Cadal


Weltschin von Wertheim; The following badge associated with this name was registered in November of 1998 (via the Outlands): (Fieldless) A buffalo courant argent.

In both cases we see a CD for the field, and another for "argent bovine etc." to the half-argent, half-sable bovine in this emblazon."

Hindrek Keuenpoeyck (NEW Name sent to Laurel; Device returned for further work)

Submitter will not accept major or minor changes, and will not accept a holding name. Submitter did not mark a most important nor a gender. No Authenticity request.

Hindrek – Found in SMP sn. Henrik: Hindrek Thimberm, 1501 (p. 143)

Keuenpoeyck – Found in “Names of Estonians from the Schultbok of Helmich Ficke: 1512-1556” by Rebecca Lucas (ffride wlffsdotter) https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ffride/kivimae-names.html; the element –poeyck seems to be “-son”; and the name Andres Keuenpoicke can be found in http://dspace.ut.ee/handle/10062/22357 p. 55 (somebody PLEASE document Keuen somewhere else!)

Per SENA Appendix C, the “Baltic” language group and the “Scandinavian” language group are compatible regardless of date. The name formation [given + patronymic byname] is found in submitter’s documentation https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ffride/kivimae-names.html.

Jesse MacKinnon (Name CHANGE sent to Laurel)

Submitter cares about the language and/or culture (none noted). Authenticity request for Scottish 15-16th century (language and/or culture and time period boxes checked). Gender desired, male. Retain Wulfgar Wartooth as alternate name.

Jesse – According to Withycombe, <Jesse> was not used in England until after the Reformation. This means not until after 1532-33. Exactly when <Jesse> might have come into use is not stated. At the Laurel website [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/eng16/eng16alpha.html] we find the article “Late Sixteenth Century English Given Names” by Talan Gwynek. According to the introduction, these names were found in the Index to Administrations in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury (PCCA), covering the years 1581-1595. The names may have been normalized. <Jesse> appears once in these records.

MacKinnon – Black, p. 531, under the header MacKinnon, dates this form of the name to 1409 as [Makfingane]. The name is derived from the old Gaelic personal name, Finguni [a genitive form]. William Makfingoun may the same person as William Makkynnane. Various dated spellings include McFyngoun 1557, Makenone and Makkynnon 1536, Mackiynnan 1545, Makkynine 1506, McKynnoun 1621, McKynnand 1586, McKynnowne 1609, McYnum 1577. The closest approximations of the modern spelling are Makkynnon, Mackiynnan, and McKynnoun. See also: http://skye.co.uk/heritage-castles-clans.php; http://Mackinnon.org; http://Scotsman.com/heritage/people-places/history-of-scottish-surnames-from-the-isle-of-sky-1-3999895.

We believe the submitted spelling to be plausible, but it is likely that one of the dated spellings would be more authentic. We ask the CoA to suggest the best authentic name possible, and that Pelican register that name, per the submitter's request for authenticity.

The Scots name formation [given + patronym], the Scots Gaelic name formation [given + patronym], and the English name formation [given + patronym] are found in SENA Appendix A. According to SENA Appendix C, Middle and Modern English and Middle and Modern Scots are part of the same language group and are compatible with Scottish Gaelic.

John Dawe (NEW Alternate Name sent to Laurel)

Alternate name for: Jørgen Rasmussen.

Submitter will not accept major changes. No other boxes marked, no authenticity request.

John – found in “16th Century Gloucestershire Names” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/late16.html.

Dawe – also found in “16th Century Gloucestershire Names” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/late16.html.

The English name formation [given + byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Juliana of Sunsetshire (RESUB Device to Kingdom to Laurel, Name registered Aug. 2015)

Per fess gules and vert, a demi-sun issuant from the line of division Or, in base a sea-coney argent.

Returned at Kingdom in May, 2015 for clarification of sea-coney position (S/B “erect” for body up, tail to based and curled in a loop) and % of coney-body to fish-tail. The position issue has been resolved with this redrawing. We will suggest to the submitter that the tail portion should be proportionally smaller.

Korwyn Marius Velis Ariannaid (CHANGE of Device sent to Laurel; Name registered Aug. 1980)

Azure, a phoenix close affronty head to sinister Or within a annulet, in chief two pearled coronets argent.

Retain old device (Azure, a phoenix close affrontée, head to sinister, Or within an annulet between in fess two greatswords palewise reversed argent) as a badge.

His Excellency is a Court Baron and so is entitled to use a coronet as a charge. The depiction of the phoenix in this posture is grandfathered to the submitter.

Krysta of Starfall (NEW Badge sent to Laurel, Name registered May 1985, July 2013)

Argent, a coronet sable, a bordure engrailed azure.

Her Excellency is a Viscountess and so is entitled to use a coronet as a charge. It was suggested that the blazon for the coronet be "...a coronet of four points," which the submitter would happily accept; however, the current feeling of the CoA seems to be that the number of points is an unblazonable artistic detail. Please consider registering the more detailed blazon.

Margaret Graham (RESUB device to Kingdom sent to Laurel, Name registered June 2012)

Quarterly gules and argent, a wyvern erect contourney and on a chief sable three mullets argent.

In March 2012, submitter’s device was returned at Kingdom: Gules, a wyvern statant and on a chief sable three mullets of six points fesswise argent. The sable wyvern and chief on the gules field violate the general rules of contrast. In order to register this design it would need to be documented as an exception based on period examples. While gules and sable are probably the easiest combination for documenting exceptions, it still has to be done before the submission could proceed. Also, mullets are rarely if ever found in period armory other than with one point straight up. While this is (probably) not cause in itself for return, it is distinctly unusual.

This submission resolves the field/chief tincture issue by having a “neutral” quarterly field made of a color and a metal, and submitter has changed the six pointed sideways mullets to standatd five pointed mullets in their default orientation. We note that the position of the feet/legs and the dropped tail may be cause for blazon-fu, but we believe that “erect” will get close enough.

Perrin Loðinsson (RESUB Device to Laurel sent to Laurel)

Gules, on a pale between two dragons combattant Or a sword sable blade enflamed vert.

The return from Laurel in February 2016 was due to the enflamed portion of the blade NOT having the flames actually in contact with the blade. This drawing corrects the problem.

Rianorix civis Alauna (CHANGE of holding name from Amanda of Southern Shores sent to Laurel)

If name needs to be changed, submitter cares about meaning “Rianorix, from the town/fort of Alauna.” Will accept changes, gender marked – don’t care. Authenticity request for language and/or culture “Roman Britain.”

Rianorix – Rianorix is a British name attested from an inscription in the Roman graveyard at the fort of Alauna, now Maryport, Cumbria, England. Many of the names in the cemetery at Alauna are more fully Roman, clearly belonging to people who had come from other regions of the Roman empire. Others, like Rianorix, appear to be British names rendered in a Latin form. The exact date of Rianorix’s grave is unknown, but is likely to be in the 2nd – 4th centuries AD. According to the description at [http://romaninscriptionsofbritain.org/inscriptions/862], the tombstone with this inscription is now in the Senhouse Museum at Maryport, Cumbria, England. It was excavated from the graveyard near the Roman fort before 1794.

civis – From Derks 257 – Adjective of the people or town to which a person belonged. From Study of Latin Inscriptions, Egbert Jr., James C., American Book Company 1896 [https://archive.org/details/introductiontost00egberich] “in some instances are made more definite by the addition of civis,…The name of the city is in the ablative case, or if it is singular of this first or second declensions, in the genitive. Ethnic adjectives are also found either standing alone or accompanied by the word civis or natione. In combination with the word natione the adjective either agrees with the name of the person or stands in the nominative case.”

Alauna – “Alavna [Carvetiorvm]: Roman Fort & Fortlet, Minor Romano-British Settlement, Maryport, Cumbria” [http://popular-archaeology.com/issue/06052014/article/archaeologists-excavate-roman-temple-area-at-maryport] [http://www.thecumbriadirectory.com/Tourist_Attractions/Roman_Remains/roman_view.php?location=alauna_roman_fort] states that the fort was established circa 122 AD and was used by the Romans for about 280 years.

The name Romano-Britain name formation [given + locative adjective + location name] is documented in “Study of Latin Inscriptions,” Egbert Jr., James C., American Book Company 1896 [https://archive.org/details/introductiontost00egberich].

The submitter’s documentation essay is posted with this LoI. Submitter’s sources are in Laurel’s packet.

Sophie Brandeis (NEW Name sent to Laurel; Device, Badge returned administratively)

Submitter will accept changes. No “most important” boxes marked; desired gender female. Authenticity request (language and/or culture AND time period) for “Late 13th – early 14th century Germany/HRE” (Holy Roman Empire?).

Sophie – Found in “Medieval German Given Names for Silesia” by Talan Gwynek. Sophie is listed in the years 1375 and 1383. http://heraldry.sca.org/names/bahlow_v.htm

Brandeis – FamilySearch shows Leonardus Roldolphus Brandeis Christened: 30 Oct 1637 in Sankt Maria Lyskirchen Katholisch, Koeln Stadt, Rheinland, Prussia (from Germany Births and Baptisms 1558-1898), mentioning his father, Joanne Jacobus Brandeis. Batch#C96954-1

The German name formation [given + byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Stephan van Voorhees (NEW Name and Device sent to Laurel)

Submitted as “Stephan Von Voorhees”; Submitter will accept changes, and the desired gender is male. Most important is “meaning”: “If change is needed please change family name to “Hees”.” Authenticity request for 14th Century Dutch (although no boxes were checked).

Stephan – van der Schaar, “Dutch Personal Names,” under the header Stefanus, p. 234. undated.

van – per SENA Appendix A, the locative article for a Dutch name should be “van”; we have changed the submitted article to try to meet the submitter’s request for authenticity. We ask for help from the CoA in this regard.

Voorhees – According to the History of the Van Voorhees Family [http://www.vanvoorhees.org/history.php], which is about immigrants to the USA, the family came from a group of three farms at the hamlet of Hees: Voorhees, Middlehees, and Achterhees. There is a Hees in the Drenthe province of the Netherlands. According to the family history, the Stephen van Voorhees who emigrated to New Netherlands was born in 1600

The Dutch name formation [given + locative article + place] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Quarterly azure and argent two winged boars passant-counterpassant counterchanged.

Stephen Corvinus (RESUB Device to Kingdom sent to Laurel)

Argent, a raven wings elevated and addorsed, on a chief sable three crescents argent.

His submission of November 2015 (Argent, a raven rising reguardant wings displayed, on a chief sable three crescents argent) was returned at Kingdom for conflict with the device registered to Bianca Charbonneau, (May of 2014 via Atenveldt): Argent, an owl displayed and on a chief sable three fleurs-de-lys argent. We found one change for the type of charges on the chief, but by precedent, any “displayed” bird is in conflict with any other, and the small changes for “rising” and “regardant” are not enough to clear the conflict. He has taken our advice and changed the raven’s wing position to clear the conflict.

Tóki blá-auga (NEW Name and Device sent to Laurel)

Submitter will accept changes, and the desired gender is male. Most important is “meaning”: byname meaning “blue eyes” or “the blue eyed.” Authenticity request for Old Norse language and/or culture.

Tóki - Bassi, p. 15.

blá-auga - Zoega’s Old Icelandic Dictionary, p. 57, blue = blár. The example for “blue-striped” on the same page is “blá-rendr”. On p. 336, OID shows that the initial “r” of the second element is indeed part of the second element.

Cleasby and Vigfusson, p. 67, translate “blá-eygr” and “blá-eyðr” both as “blue-eyed”. The first form is taken from the “Njarðvikinga Saga” and the second from the “Heimskringla”. Those spellings may have been normalized when these books were published in the 19th century.

-auga meaning "eye" - found in Bassi, p. 9 (the cross-reference index)

The Old Norse name formation [given + descriptive nickname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Gules, a chevron inverted sable fimbriated argent between three bezants one and two.


Hindrek Keuenpoeyck (NEW Name sent to Laurel; Device returned for further work)

Sable, on a pale embattled between in pale a plate and a goute d’eau inverted and in pale a plate and a goute d’eau inverted, a pink flamingo statant proper.

The round white things and the drippy white things on either side of the pale could not be blazoned in a period way, so this design fails the period design test. We will suggest deeper, wider (and fewer) embattles on the pale, and that he register two ermine spots argent around the pale, then draw them how he wants after registration.

Maelona Tegmaen (NEW Name and Device returned for further work)

Submitter cares about language and/or culture (but WHICH language and/or culture were not noted) and desired gender is female. Will accept major and minor changes.

The name <Maeloc> is listed in “Cornish (and Other) Personal Names from the 10th Century Bodmin Manumissions” by Heather Rose Jones (Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn) at [https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/bodmin/celtic.htm#Celtic] as a Cornish or other Celtic language masculine name with the variant spelling <Maelhoc> amd <Mæiloc>.

Early Medieval Breton Names by Heather Rose Jones [https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/EarlyMedievalBreton.html] lists <Maeldoi> as late 7th century Breton, possibly from elements meaning "prince" and "god".

This name, as submitted, cannot be documented. Submitter marked that “Language” and “Culture” were most important, but did not note WHICH language or culture she thinks this is. Returned for further work.

Per chevron azure and vert a birch tree eradicated, in chief a triquetra bendwise and a triquetra bend sinisterwise argent.

This device is being returned for violation of SENA A.3.D.2.c, Unity of Posture and Orientation; the triquetrae must be blazoned individually, and so run afoul of this rule.

Sophie Brandeis (NEW Name sent to Laurel; Device, Badge returned administratively)

Per fess gules and azure, in pale a sun Or eclipsed Sable and a sea-goat bendwise argent.

The rays of the sun must connect around the sun disk such that the black does not touch the red field. The sea-goat must be drawn in a heraldic posture.

Azure, in a pale a seagull volant argent maintaining in its beak a fish and a castle Or.

Because the two submitted forms are different drawings, we cannot tell if the castle is primary with the gull/fish secondary, or if the castle and gull are co-primaries.

The device and badge are being administratively returned. The line drawing and the color drawing must match exactly, ie the color drawing must be a copy of the line drawing which has been colored in. The submitted device and badge paperwork do not meet this administrative requirement.

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