Minutes of the November, 2016 Heralds Meeting

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(11:15am to 1:10pm)

The November meeting was held at Green Crown’s home. The January 2017 meeting will be held in Reno, Nevada in conjunction with Twelfth Night Coronation.


Aasa Thorvaldsdottir, Vesper; Krysta of Starfall, Green Crown; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Anne FitzRichard, Banner; Lucius Cassius Maris, Baldric; Astrith of Swansvale, Latimer; Angus Duncan Cameron, PE for Cloondara and Exchequer for CoH; Sine ni Mharbhen, Glora Fjord; Shimon Levi ben Yitzchak haKohen, Blue Heron; Safiya bint Zakariya al’Tayyib, Cornet for Champclair; Frederick of Holland, PaL; Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym, PaL/Archivist; Edith of Swanesdale, PaL; Geneviefve d’Estelle, PaL; Hannah Story Teller, PEaL; Faun Woods, Cornet; Kathryn of Southern Shores, Cornet.

Heralds’ Meetings for 2017: The March 2017 meeting will be held at Green Crown’s home. Future meetings TBA. Meetings begin at 11AM, with walk-in processing no later than 10:30AM. “Road show” meetings, if any, will be announced well in advance.

PROPOSED DATES FOR 2017-18: March 12, May 21, July 2, September 17, November 19 (in conjunction with and at the location of the Herald’s Collegium), January 7 (Sunday of Twelfth Night). (Approved by Compline, will be sent to Chronicller, Calendar and Web Minister)

The DEADLINES for submission forms and documentation are: December 20, 2016; March 1, May 10, June 21, September 6, November 8, December 20, 2017. Submission forms must be complete, and received either via EMAIL or hardcopy by the deadline date at midnight to be considered at the next meeting (which is about 11 days later, except for June/July due to West-AnTir War). If the forms are EMAILED, then payment must arrive by the meeting day. WALK-IN submissions will only be considered if there is time, but in most cases will be delayed until the next meeting so that each submission can be reviewed fully.

Walk-in submissions may be held over until the following meeting at the discretion of Matins.


Vesper (Aasa): New exchequer (Angus); new Seawolf (Kean); went to Kingdom officers meeting.

Seawolf (Kean): Not present – As you know, I stepped into the Seawolf job at Mists Investiture. Investiture happened. I have the Mists ceremony books, and intend to review them and, at the least, repair them.

Sable Swan (Miach): Deputy: Margaret Pye; Not present, no report

Stellanordica (Rodrigo): Not present – no report

Exchequer (Angus): brand new to the position, the College has money, more information to come once he is established in the job.

Matins (vacant - Green Crown/Krysta reporting): Submissions are happening. Who is going to run the submissions meeting at 12th Night in Reno? Edith and Aine. Matins is a currently vacant office, requires attention to detail and knowledge of technology, name and device submission rules (SENA), and some College of Arms administrative handbook familiarity.

Green Crown (Krysta): Has applied to be the next Wreath Sov. of Arms (Laurel staff – armory registration decisions). If appointed, will take over in April 2017. Matins will need to be filled as of March, or another senior herald will need to take on the submissions processing. Krysta can continue to assist/clerk, but cannot do the “job.” Final decision likely to be early January; Laurel is accepting apps until end of Dec.

Banner (Anne): chasing down court reports; competition winners are sometimes being omitted from court reports – they should NOT be! This has resulted in several official awards not getting reported, because the officer is not properly passing on that information to the heralds. Heralds also need to know that they should get the information from the officers, so that it can be reported even if not announced in court. Discussion: should a tablet be included in the court regalia for court heralds, to try and increase the speed of court reporting? Consideration for a later date. Draft in process “Herald’s Notes for Incoming Royalty”. Once finalized, Anne would like this document to be emailed to every set of incoming royalty, includes reminders about checking for previous awards and so forth. She would also like to see a handout for Herald’s 101 for Court Heralds – Hirsch will get it back on the website. Need a primer for Court members, so they are better prepared to support their Royals and the Herald during Court. Anne and Kean are going to rework the Mists Investiture ceremony and potentially others, as well. (Including notes for the herald at the proper point to request leave for the populace to be seated.)

Baldric (Lucius): brand new to the position, has never done it before, asking for senior heralds to provide information, tips, etc. to help him fill the position properly. There is a heraldry class track at Collegium Occidentalis next Saturday.

Brachet (Michel): No report

Greencloak (Aine): Family emergency – sorry she could not be here.

Latimer (Astrith): attended Cynagua Coronet and had quite a few people come for consultation. Will be at Twelfth Night

Golem (Hirsch): things are working, although some court reports are still late. He is still tracking down especially some of the more obscure awards, trying to ensure that everything gets recorded. If anyone sees a problem or a need for information on the website, please ping Hirsch, he cannot fix issues he does not know about.

ANNOUNCEMENTS / Other Business

Laurel requires now 0 (zero) paper submissions – we need only one copy and Matins doesn’t mail anything to Laurel, just sends scans. Effective immediately we will only require from submitters:

Name submission: one copy and documentation
Device submission: one line drawing, one colored-in copy of the line drawing, with documentation if needed
Badge submission: one line drawing, one colored-in copy of the line drawing, documentation as needed
Money: $6 per item. An item is a name, a device, or a badge.

Colored submissions are still required to be hand colored using markers, not crayons or pencils, and must be colored with “quality markers” so colors don’t change; we encourage the use of Crayola Classic markers. If the submission is not colored in true colors, the College is required to send it back. If the line drawing and the colored-in drawing are different, the College is required to send it back. PLEASE make a copy of your line drawing and then color it in; do not draw the design twice.



MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Vesper at herald@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds' website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm.


Contact brachet@heralds.westkingdom.org for external commenting participation. A central Cynagua external commenting meeting may begin soon, so watch this space!


The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.

July 2016 LoAR (printed September 25, 2016) (No West LOI)

Cover Letter

From Laurel: New Palimpsest

At KWHSS the Sovereigns met with Marie, outgoing Palimpsest, and selected Ursula Georges to fill the position of Palimpsest Herald. We are very thankful for the service of Marie in this office, and we know that Ursula will do an outstanding job in the office. Please direct all correspondence for Palimpsest to Ursula at rules@heraldry.sca.org.

From Pelican: Saint's Names (Constructed or Otherwise) in Non-Personal Names

Recently, we've had a number of order name submissions where the substantive element has consisted of a saint's full name, often using the English surname as given name precedent. Saint's names and devotional names in period are modified in various ways, but these modifiers and bynames are generally locative or descriptive. Such "full" saint's names tend to appear in the names of churches and religious institutions, or other place names.

Examples include the church Seint Marie at Hille and the festival of Seint Peter called th'Advincle (referring to S. Petrus ad vincula, "Saint Peter in chains"), both found in the Middle English Dictionary. The church Sainte Pancrace in the ffelde is found in a 1495 will ['Appendices', in Survey of London: Volume 17, the Parish of St Pancras Part 1: the Village of Highgate, http://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vol17/pt1/pp138-148]. The sign name a lymage Sainct Jehan l'evangeliste ("at the image [of] Saint John the Evangelist") is part of the publishing location for Raoul Le Fèvre's Les proesses et vaillances du preux Hercule from 1500 (http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b86001264/f215.image). Additional examples found by Siren include Ordre Monsieur Saint Michel Archange ("Order of my lord Saint Michael archangel") and nostra Religione di Santo Stefano Papa ("our religious-order of Saint Stephen, pope").

In July 2006 we ruled:

Several commenters noted that the College cannot canonize new saints. However, we feel that registering a name that uses the descriptive Saint does not do this, but rather follows a well documented medieval tradition of local shrines and saints who may or may not be recognized by the hierarchy in Rome. In addition, this would not be the first such registration; the College of St. Bunstable, a group name formed from a fictional saint's name, was registered in August 1981, and in August 1990, the College of Saint Joan was registered although Joan of Arc was not canonized until 1920. While philosophically, it is certainly better recreation to use a real-life saint's name when using this model to create an order name, there is no reason why these sorts of construction should not be allowed the same latitude allowed by our rules for other constructed names. The name William the Cooper is a well-formed English name whose elements can all be documented to period, therefore Saint William the Cooper is an expected construction. [Caer Galen, Barony of. Order name Order of Saint William the Cooper, July 2006, A-Outlands]

Further, NPN3D of SENA states, "The Order of Saint William the Cooper is registerable, even though this is a constructed saint's name, as long as there is no registered William the Cooper."

In December 2015, we ruled the following:

Submitted as Order of the Noble Touch, the Letter of Intent documented this order name using the pattern of naming an order after a founder or saint, and documented Noble Touch as a late period English name. However, no evidence was presented to show that orders were named after the full names of such individuals, rather than just a given name (or Saint [given name]), or that such an order would include a definite article before the name. Without such documentation, this name cannot be registered as an order name. [Wintermist, Barony of, Company of Noble Touch, December 2015, A-Caid]

A submission this month, Order of Blood of the Wood, follows the pattern of [constructed saint's name] of [place name]. Examples of this pattern are found in Juliana de Luna's article "Medieval Secular Order Names" (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/order/new/). Examples include Les Chevaliers de Nostre Dame de la Noble Maison ("the knights of Our Lady of the Noble House"), Saint George of Rougemont, and Our Lady of Gelders. Therefore, the pattern of using a saint from a specific place is registerable in order names, although we note that this pattern is not common compared to just using the saint's given name.

Although we have examples of saints who bore inherited surnames, particularly in the 16th and 17th centuries, we do not have evidence that such surnames and full names were used in order names. We will continue to register orders named after saints with literal locative or descriptive bynames, as these patterns are attested or can be derived from other types of non-personal names found in period. Therefore, patterns such as Order of [given name] of [place name] and Order of [given name] the [descriptive term] are registerable. We will not register orders named after the full names of saints when the surnames are inherited forms, unless documentation is found to show that this pattern follows period practice, but we will allow this pattern in other types of non-personal names as appropriate (e.g., household names).

From Pelican: Turkish Alternate Titles

In November 2014, Green Staff pointed out that some of our current alternate titles in Turkish were not used in period, and suggested period forms as alternatives where possible. (The current List of Alternate Titles is found at http://heraldry.sca.org/titles.html.) However, the resolution of this proposal was inadvertently not posted in a Cover Letter.

The following titles are removed from the List of Alternate Titles because they are modern Turkish titles borrowed from English terms, or are constructed titles: Barones ("Baroness"), Dü es ("Duchess"), Hanimefendi ("Lady"), Kontess ("Countess"), and Vikontess ("Viscountess").

The following title is added to the List of Alternate Titles: Hatun. This is appropriate for all titles from "Lady" through royal peers, and is a Turkish transliteration using the rules of the modern Turkish alphabet.

From Wreath: correction for the June Cover Letter

Last month the Cover Letter had a section with the title on Held Charges. A word was missing in the first published version and the sentence "The way in which the bird holds a charge is considered an artistic detail that does provide a DC" should have read "The way in which the bird holds a charge is considered an artistic detail that does _not_ provide a DC"

The online archive contains the corrected text.

August 2016 LoAR (printed October 27, 2016) (West May, 2016 LOI)

Cover Letter

From Laurel: Job Opening - Wreath Sovereign of Arms

The Wreath Sovereign of Arms is an educational deputy of the Laurel Principal Sovereign of Arms, responsible for the consideration of and decisions concerning armory submitted for registration by the College of Arms.

Wreath is an unpaid position, currently requiring approximately 20 hours a week. Some knowledge of period heraldry is useful; knowledge of SCA heraldry is essential. The position requires considerable tact and patience, research and reasoning ability, a clear understanding of the Standards for Evaluation of Names and Armory and past Laurel rulings, the ability to write clearly and succinctly, the ability to work within tight deadlines and coordinate closely with Pelican, Laurel and other staff to produce a Laurel Letter of Acceptance and Return monthly, computer literacy and word processing skills, reliable e-mail and telephone access, and time and ability to travel. Given the current structure of the office, a high-speed internet connection is required.

Resumés must be sent electronically to Laurel at bids@heraldry.sca.org. Resumés must be received by Saturday, December 31, 2016, with an expected start date of February 2017, to be determined with the Laurel staff.

West Acceptances - August LoAR

Angelo Sidoti. Name change from Úlfarr veiðimaðr Eysteinsson.

The submitter requested authenticity for "15th-16th century Sicilian".

Both elements are found in The Jews in Sicily, Volume 10 Notaries of Palermo: Part One, by Shlomo Simonsohn (https://books.google.com/books?id=PNmvCQAAQBAJ), dated to the 15th century. Therefore, this name meets the submitter's request for an authentic 15th century Sicilian name.

The submitter's previous name, Úlfarr veiðimaðr Eysteinsson, is retained as an alternate name.

Anna von Darniburc. Name and device. Per chevron azure and argent, three marigolds counterchanged Or and gules, all slipped and leaved vert.

The submitter requested authenticity for "11th-14th century German". The place name Darniburc was dated in the Letter of Intent to the 11th century. Commenters noted that the preposition de is more likely at this time. However, instances of von and its variant vone are found in Socin, p. 246, citing an 11th century charter. Therefore, this name meets the submitter's request for an authentic 11th century German name.

The submitter may wish to know that a later form of this placename is Derenburg, found as a header form in Hermann Oesterley, Historisch-geographisches wörterbuch des deutschen mittelalters (https://books.google.com/books?id=I5IOAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA120). It is dated to 1306 in Urkundenbuch des Hochstifts Halberstadt und seiner Bischöfe: 1304-1361, edited by Gustav Schmidt (entry no. 1783, p. 28, https://books.google.com/books?id=KPkUAAAAQAAJ). Derenburg was also found in sources from the 15th and 16th centuries, and is the modern form of this place name.

If the submitter prefers the form Anna von Derenburg, which is authentic from the early 14th century to the end of our period, she can submit a request for reconsideration.

Beri le Tuillier. Name.

The submitter requested authenticity for "13-14 cent France/Northern Spain". Both the given name and byname are found in Paris in 1292, so this is an authentic 13th century French name.

Bersi Eðvarðarson. Name change from Bera Eðvarðardóttir (see RETURNS for device).

The submitter's previous name, Bera Eðvarðardóttir, is released.

Catelot la Tuilliere. Name.

The submitter requested authenticity for "13-14 cent France/Northern Spain". Both the given name and the masculine form of the byname are found in Paris in 1292, so this is an authentic 13th century French name.

Catrin Aderyn. Badge. Lozengy vert and Or, a chief embattled argent.

Nice badge!

Da'ud ibn Ali. Device change. Per pale sable and azure, a horse rampant atop a mountain argent.

The submitter's old device, Per pale sable and azure, a horse rampant and a mount argent, is retained as a badge.

Da'ud ibn Ali. Badge. (Fieldless) A horseshoe per pale sable and azure.

Dís Bjarnylr. Name.

Dómari Grímsson. Name and device. Sable, a tree blasted and on a chief rayonny argent three crescents gules.

Submitted as Dómarr Grimsson, the byname was correctly changed in kingdom to Grímsson to use accents consistently throughout the entire name. However, the given name Dómarr is a legendary name, not used by normal humans. Therefore, we have changed the given name to the submitter's preferred spelling Dómari, found in Nordiskt runnamnslexikon.

Elena verch Rhys. Name.

Elizabeth de Belcaire. Device. Per chevron Or and purpure, two butterflies purpure.

Emma the Bold. Device. Azure, a domestic cat statant gardant, on a chief Or two roses proper.

Gillian Winter. Name.

The submitter may wish to know that this exact name is found in the FamilySearch Historical Records, dated to 1624, so it is an excellent late period English name!

Gisela Eger. Name and device. Quarterly azure and vert, an owl and on a chief argent four roses gules.

Gwyneth fitz-Rolf. Device change. Argent, a polypus sable between three mullets azure.

Isabella Cavalieri. Name and device. Per pale wavy azure and vert, a sea-horse contourny argent and a horse rampant Or, in base a rose argent.

The submitter requested authenticity for 16th century Venice. The given name was documented to 16th century Venice in the Letter of Intent, and the occupational term Cavalieri ("silkwoman") is found in 16th century Vicenza in Domenico Bortolan's Vocabolario del Dialetto Antico Vicentino (Dal Secolo XIV a tutto il Secolo XVI) (http://archive.org/details/vocabolariodeldi00bortuoft). As both elements are found in or near Venice in the 16th century, this name appears to meet this request.

Janeke Viðarsson. Name and device. Argent, a raven rising sable and a chief triangular azure.

Liadain Crosthwayt. Name and device. Per fess azure and sable mullety of six points Or, a fess wavy argent and in chief three plates.

Liadain is found in The Book of Leinster, c.1160, as a variant of the name Liadan. Líadan is also the name of an Irish saint.

This name combines a Gaelic given name and English byname. This is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA.

Lochlainn Bjornulfsson. Name change from Kors Damiszoon.

This name combines a Middle Irish Gaelic given name and an Old Norse byname. This is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA.

The submitter's previous name, Kors Damiszoon, is retained as an alternate name.

Margot de Janua. Name and device. Per pale sable and argent, a domestic cat sejant gules.

This name combines a French given name and Latinized English byname. This is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA.

Michael MacAlpine. Transfer of device to Seth MacAlpine. Sable, a dragon rampant argent between three ermine spots Or.

Seth MacAlpine. Acceptance of transfer of device from Michael MacAlpine. Sable, a dragon rampant argent between three ermine spots Or.

His previous device, Argent, a griffin sejant sable, on a chief gules a crescent Or, is retained as a badge.

Úlfarr inn rammi. Name and device. Quarterly gules and sable, on a cross argent a wolf's head cabossed sable.

Please advise the submitter to draw the cross, and thus the wolf's head, slightly smaller.

West Returns - August LoAR

Bersi Eðvarðarson. Device change. Per saltire azure and argent, a bear couchant contourny sable.

This device is returned for redraw, for violating SENA A2C2 which states "Elements must be drawn to be identifiable." Commenters had trouble identifying the sable creature, generally confusing it with a sheep or cat. The submitter is encouraged to look at the image of a bear in the Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry for assistance in drawing the head so that it appears more bear-like.

In Service,
Krysta of Starfall,
Green Crown Pursuivant

SUBMISSONS – November (2016)

Aine Redmond and David of the Wode (RESUB Joint badge)

(Fieldless) A triquetra vert interlaced with a triangle inverted voided argent.

The previous submission was returned by Laurel on the August 2014 LoAR: “Aine Redmond and David of the Wode. Joint badge. (Fieldless) A triangle inverted voided interlaced with a triquetra Or. This badge is returned for conflict with Israel ibn Jacob, Paly wavy of twelve sable and argent, a star of David Or. The voided and interlaced charges here are visually equivalent to a star of David which leaves only one DC for the change from fielded to fieldless design.”

This change of tincture of the interlaced charges from “Or” to “Argent and vert” clears the called conflict. Appears to be clear of conflict.

Eva Hundsdotter (Change of Holding Name)

Holding Name – Éua of Fettburg registered May 2016 LoAR

Will accept changes; Sound “Eva”; Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; No Authenticity request.

Eva – Found in “Danmarks Gamle Personnavne” Volume 1, part 2, page 1628 dated to 1350.

Hundsdotter – Also from “Danmarks Gamle Personnavne” Volume 1, part 1, page 582 dated to 1445.

The Danish name formation [given + patronymic byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

At our June 2016 meeting, the name Éua Hundsdóttir was returned for language group/time period incompatibility (SENA Appendix C). The name formation [given + patronymic byname] is found in SENA Appendix A, for both Old Norse and Scottish prior to 1100. The Scandinavian name group and Scottish are only compatible prior to 1100 per SENA Appendix C. Éua does not appear to be documentable prior to 1100 in either Scotland or Ireland.

Genevieve of Champclair (NEW Name and Device)

Submitter cares about sound “Genevieve”, female name, no major changes, no authenticity request.

Genevieve – Found in “An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris” by Lord Colm Dubh [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/paris.html], dated to (duh) 1292.

of Champclair – SENA PN1.B.2.f Branch name allowance

The French/BNA name formation [given + locative byname] is found in SENA PN1.B.2.f.

Or, a pegasus passant contourny purpure, a chief enarched sable mullety Or.

Appears clear; artist is aware that the nose is a little pointy for a Pegasus and asks that the submission not be penalized because of her drawing skills.

Gwerydd Aurifaber (RESUB Name and Device)

Submitter cares about meaning. “Something nice, that is easy to spell and 14th century welsh.” Wants a female name. No authenticity request.

Prior submission: Maelona Tegmaen; could not be documented. This submission is a complete change.

Gwerydd – Found in “A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names” by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (Heather Rose Jones) [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/welsh13.html] as {Gwerydd} Gwerith.

Aurifaber – A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names” by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (Heather Rose Jones) [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/welsh13.html] as Aurifarber (L) meaning Goldsmith.

The Welsh name formation [given + occupational byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Per chevron azure and vert, a tree eradicated and in chief two triquetras argent.

Prior submission: Per chevron azure and vert a birch tree eradicated, in chief a triquetra bendwise and a triquetra bend sinisterwise argent was returned for violation of SENA A.3.D.2.c, Unity of Posture and Orientation; the triquetrae must be blazoned individually, and so run afoul of this rule. The submitted redrawing resolves this issue.

Appears to be clear of conflict.

Justin Brennan Dickson (NEW Name and Device)

Submitter cares about the sound of the name (none noted) and that it’s male, and requests authenticity for 16th centry English/Scottish. All changes OK.

Justin – Found in Withycombe, p. 185. Justin Whitman was baptized in 1639, in South Leigh, Oxfordshire. According to SENA GP.3, "The use of a name element by a human being during the grey period is generally sufficient to allow this use, even if it is the name of an infant." The grey period is 1600-1650. There are also multiple entries for “Justin” in FamilySearch with death/burial dates from 1562 to 1605 (for example, Justin Conaway, buried 1605, St. Peter, Kent, England; Batch No. I05765-6).

Brennan – Found on FamilySearch, showing Thomas Brennan, marriage dated 1625: "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6D9-RMW : 10 December 2014), Thomas Brennan and Anice Burt, 1625; citing , Romsey, Hampshire, England, reference 2:G3KHMR; FHL microfilm 1,041,215. Batch No. M13669-2.

Dickson – Reaney & Wilson p. 134, under the header [Dickson]. Thom Dicson 1307, John Diksson, Dikson 1332, Nicholas Dyxon 1425, Robert Dixson 1429. On the same, page, under the header [Dickenson] are more variations on the spelling of the [Dick-] part of the name, including Gilbert Dyckenson 1585. The latter shows the use of "ck" in at least one name in this period. Given the many spelling variations, [Dickson] seems a reasonable spelling for the late 16th century. Also found in this spelling in FamilySearch, as the surname of Roger Dickson, male, christened 1574 in Crowle, Lincoln, England, Batch: C01198-0.

The late period English name formation [given+ byname + byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Per bend sinister vert and azure, a rose argent, a bordure argent semy of thistles sable.

Appears to be clear of conflict.

Linnet Hatfield (Name and Device CHANGE)

Currently registered name: Linnet of Heart’s Rest and device: Vert, a chevron nebuly between two natural tigers combattant and a cross crosslet fitchy, all within a bordure argent. (Both registered 11/1991.)

Submitter will not accept major or minor changes to her name. Old items to be released. No authenticity request.

Linnet – This element is already registered to the submitter (Linnet of Heart’s Rest, registered November 1991). SENA PN1.B.2.g

Hatfield – Found in Reaney & Wilson, p. 220, under the header [Hatfield]. William de Hatfield 1119-1127, Robert de Hattefield 1343, Thomas Hatfield 1412. Hatfield is a place name in Essex, Hereford, Hertsfordshire, Nottinghamshire, Worcestershire, and the North Riding in Yorkshire (most of which is now in the new county of North Yorkshire). Also, Submitter’s modern byname, considered neutral in time and place due to the legal name allowance SENA PN1.B.2.e (state-issued identification in Laurel’s packet)

The middle/early English name formation [given + byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Gules, a lion statant contourny and in base a mullet of six points argent.

Appears to be clear of conflict.

Sophie Brandeis (RESUB Device, Badge; Name on Sept 2016 LoI)

Per fess gules and azure, in pale a sun Or eclipsed Sable and a sea-goat argent.

Appears clear.

Azure, in a pale a gull volant argent, maintaining in its beak a fish, and a castle Or.

Appear clear of conflict.

The previously submitted device and badge were administratively returned for redrawing in September 2016. They have been redrawn.



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