Minutes of the May, 2016 Heralds Meeting

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MINUTES OF THE MONTHLY MEETING – May 22, 2016
(10:35 am to 2:00 pm)

The meeting was held at the Green Crown's home. The next three meetings will be held at Green Crown’s home (564 Broadmoor Blvd., San Leandro, CA 94577; email greencrownwest@yahoo.com for directions).

ATTENDEES:

Frederick of Holland, Vesper; Aasa Thorvaldsdottir, Compline; Daffyd Waleis, Seawolf/Exchequer; Krysta of Starfall, Green Crown; eilis o’Boirne, Banner; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Astrith of Swansvale, Latimer; Kean de Lacy, Black Mark; Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym, PaL/Archivist; Margaret Pye, Dep. Sable Swan; Moira O’Connor, PaL; Edith of Swanesdale, PaL; Hannah Story Teller, Cornet; Safiya bint Zakariya al’Tayyib, Cornet; Faun Woods, visitor.

COLLEGE OF HERALDS MEETINGS
Heralds’ Meetings for 2016: July 10, September 18, November 20, January 8, 2017 (at 12th Night in Reno). Meetings begin at 11AM, with walk-in processing no later than 10:30AM. “Road show” meetings, if any, will be announced well in advance.

The DEADLINES for submission forms and documentation are: June 25; September 7; November 9; December 20. Submission forms must be complete, and received either via EMAIL or hardcopy by the deadline date at midnight to be considered at the next meeting (which is about 11 days later, except for June/July due to West-AnTir War). If the forms are EMAILED, then payment must arrive by the meeting day. WALK-IN submissions will only be considered if there is time, but in most cases will be delayed until the next meeting so that each submission can be reviewed fully.

Walk-in submissions may be held over until the following meeting at the discretion of Matins.


REPORTS

Vesper: Title changes that occurred 5/21: Dafydd is now Seawolf, Aasa is now Compline. Asa will be in charge of the Heralds while Vesper is off in Eastern Lands. She and Dafydd have both been requested to submit reports to Vesper during this time of change. There is a price rise coming from Laurel from $3 an item to $4 an item (for server maintenance and travel funds). This increase will cut the Kingdom College of Heralds profit down too low for the College to support. How should we respond? Suggestion: remove the $2 bundle discount when submitter sends in name and armory together, making each individual submission $6 regardless of how many are simultaneously submitted. Potentially increase price from $6 per item to $7, if this change is not enough. Thank all Heralds for helping with the College, particularly at Golden Beltane. Their Majesties were very pleased with the College at this event.

Seawolf: New Seawolf as of yesterday. (YAY!)

Sable Swan: No Report

Stellanordica: No Report

Exchequer: Need to get signature cards for the Herald’s accounts updated before Vesper and Banner are both gone for extended travels north- and east-ward. Need to get new Kingdom Exchequer on the account, and also Daffyd. Eilis will check to see if Leticia can be available to meet for signatures (maybe at June Crown), or Wulfric can come to Oakland after work one day to do cards.

Matins (vacant - Green Crown reporting): Two people training for OSCAR/Submissions processes, Edith and Aine, although at this time neither is ready/able to commit to holding the job.

Green Crown: Continuing to attend Wreath decision meetings and proofreading the LoARs as they are processed.

Banner: Two new bags for court are in process. Each will have two books, tabards, and a set of post-it notes. Aasa and Anne will each have a bag when Banner is out of Kingdom.

Baldric: (vacant)

Brachet: No Report

Greencloak: Changing over at June Crown to Aine.

Latimer: The Consultation Table was at March Crown, Mists Spring Coronet, and Golden Beltane. It won’t be at Cynagua Spring Coronet. Latimer and her primary assistant will be out of the country during Mists Fall Coronet and October Crown, so arrangements will be made to have others providing consultation during those events. We had lots on consultations during March Crown and none at all during Mists Spring Coronet, which was the following weekend at the same location. Lots of consultations during Golden Beltane.

On the KLoI: please use website links from submissions to check that they are active and contain the information the submitter quoted. If confident, you can also comment on whether or not the source is historically accurate.

Golem: Everything's working. Some work rewording submissions instructions, attempting to make them more clear. Some work on the online forms to make sure they are being processed correctly (and emails that are being generated are reaching the Royalty). Court Reports are generally being handled in a timely fashion, thank you to all court heralds!

Archivist (Gwenhwyfaer): No Report


ANNOUNCEMENTS / Other Business

Laurel requires now 0 (zero) paper submissions – we need only one copy and Matins doesn’t mail anything to Laurel, just sends scans. Effective immediately we will only require from submitters:

Name submission: one copy and documentation
Device submission: one line drawing, one colored drawing, with documentation if needed
Badge submission: one line drawing, one colored drawing, documentation as needed
Money: $10 for name+device or name+badge, $6 for individual submissions.

Colored submissions are still required to be hand colored using markers, not crayons or pencils, and must be colored with “quality markers” so colors don’t change; we encourage the use of Crayola Classic markers. If the submission is not colored in true colors, the College is required to send it back.

SUBMISSIONS GUIDELINES

GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS

MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Vesper at herald@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds' website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm.

BRACHET MEETINGS
The office of Brachet Herald was filled as of the September meeting; no commenting meetings are being held, but Brachet is brainstorming to try to do e-meetings. More news soon.


EXCERPTS FROM THE LOARS

The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.

January 2016 LoAR (printed March 26, 2016) (No West LOI)

Cover Letter

From Laurel: Applications for Pelican Sovereign of Arms

Dame Lillia, Pelican Queen of Arms, is nearing the end of her tenure, which officially ends January 1, 2017. We are beginning the process of seeking a successor for her office. If you are interested, please see the job description below and send a letter of interest and your resumé to bids@heraldry.sca.org by Saturday, June 30, 2016. If you have questions about the job, please contact Lillia at pelican@heraldry.sca.org or myself at laurel@heraldry.sca.org. Dame Lillia will be available at KWHSS 2016 for questions about the job.

Pelican Sovereign of Arms

The Pelican Sovereign of Arms is an educational deputy of the Laurel Principal Sovereign of Arms, responsible for the consideration of and decisions concerning names submitted for registration by the College of Arms.

Pelican is an unpaid position, currently requiring approximately 20 hours a week. The position requires considerable tact and patience, onomastic knowledge, research and reasoning ability, a clear understanding of the Standards for Evaluation and past Laurel rulings, the ability to write clearly and succinctly, the ability to work within tight deadlines and coordinate closely with Wreath, Laurel and other staff to produce a Laurel Letter of Acceptance and Return monthly, computer literacy and word processing skills, reliable e-mail and telephone access, and time and ability to travel. Access to a good research library is desirable but not required. Given the current structure of the office, a high-speed internet connection is useful but it is not required.

Resumés must be sent in both hard copy to Laurel at the address at the top of this Cover Letter and electronically to bids@heraldry.sca.org. The electronic applications will be posted on OSCAR with addresses and other contact information stripped from them. Resumés must be received by June 30, 2016 with an expected start date following Pennsic 2016.

From Palimpsest: Successor Sought

Palimpsest Herald is Laurel's Rules Deputy; that is, Palimpsest is the herald who helps manage the process of changing the rules and handbooks for heralds at the Society level. It's a position that requires attention to detail, fluency with words, strong familiarity with the current rules and handbooks, ready access to email and OSCAR, and general word processing skills. Also useful are the ability to edit HTML and familiarity with older versions of the rules and handbooks and the history of the CoA.

Palimpsest is responsible for: maintaining and managing changes to the Administrative Handbook and the Standards for Evaluation of Names and Armory and their Appendices, the Glossary of Terms, Alternate Titles List, and other documents as directed; advising Laurel and Laurel deputies on other Handbook-type documents, such as the Silent Heralds Handbook, and questions relating to the rules, handbooks, etc.; answering inquiries regarding processes, rules, etc. from other heralds and the general populace.

Please contact Marie (rules@heraldry.sca.org) and Laurel (laurel@heraldry.sca.org) if you have questions about this position and/or are interested in taking on this office.

From Wreath: A Tudor Rose by Any Other Name...

This month a submission brought up a discussion about presumption upon the Tudor rose. Per the Cover Letter of December 2010, the number of forms of half argent half gules roses that were restricted was reduced to six forms rather than "in some other manner which creates a half-white, half-red rose". The currently protected forms are:

A double rose gules and argent or argent and gules.

A rose quarterly either in argent and gules or gules and argent.

A rose per pale either in argent and gules or gules and argent. [Cover Letter, Dec 2010]

The current submission interpreted the wording on the December 2010 Cover Letter "We are, therefore, removing the restriction on using half-white and half-red roses as part of a larger armorial design. We are registering those six badges to the Tudors, as they are important period badges, but we will no longer restrict their use entirely" as meaning that these six forms are not restricted anymore. This is not the case. What is not restricted is any other form of a half-white, half-red rose.

From Wreath: Releasing the Armory of the Dukes of Teck

Recently a Letter of Pends and Discussion raised the question of whether the armory of the Dukes of Teck reached our criteria of protection. Commentary indicated that it did not. Thus, at this time we are releasing the armory of the Dukes of Teck, Lozengy bendwise sable and Or and Lozengy bendwise sinister sable and Or.

From Wreath: a Short Note about Unity of Orientation

Some ambiguity exists in the interpretation of SENA A3D2c due to the fact that it mentions Unity of Posture and Orientation together. Posture and orientation are different and independent parameters and we have returned inanimate, as well as animate, charges in cases where the orientation was the differing criteria. However, the default orientation (and thus the inverted version thereof) of an inanimate charge is an artifact of our Society-defined defaults. It does not seem fair to submitters to penalize them when considering two or more non-identical inanimate charges where one charge needs to be blazoned as inverted and the other does not solely because of our defined default orientations. In consequence, armorial designs that use such a combination will not be returned for that reason alone. Note that a difference in axis is a different issue, and will still be a violation of unity of orientation, barring period evidence to the contrary, as will a difference of orientation for identical charges.

February 2016 LoAR (printed April 27, 2016) (West November 2015 LOI)

Cover Letter

From Laurel: Submissions Heralds, How To: OSCAR notification guide

Greetings, Principal Heralds and Submissions Heralds, want to know how to send electronic notifications using OSCAR but don't how? The instructions on how to use OSCAR to send electronic notifications are now available on the Laurel website. The instructions can be found on the Submission Heralds Job page or by following this link: http://heraldry.sca.org/oscar_notifications/

The instructions were written by Seraphina Delfino, Golden Dolphin, and edited by Marie de Blois, Clarion Herald. Thank you to Marie de Blois, Clarion Herald and Reis ap Tuder, Codex Herald, for their hard work to format the instruction and make them available on the website.

From Morsulus: Cotises and the Database

The next release of the database will feature a new category:

COTISES

There should not be any instances of "cotised" as a feature left in the database, but that should not matter for conflict checking purposes.

COTISES takes number (almost always 1; sometimes 2; maybe could be 3), line (pl, wavy, etc.), group (second, rarely debruising, concievably tertiary), tincture, and a new feature set, "ordinary". The values for "ordinary" are:

This indicates the nature of the charge that the cotises are attached to. Yes, there is a "base cotised" in the database.

West Acceptances - February LoAR

Alessandro Cantori. Device. Azure, a lute and on a chief Or three C clefs azure.

Anluan Trelaine. Reblazon of device. Quarterly sable and vert, a cross formy throughout between in bend a unicorn's head couped and a mullet, a bordure argent.

Blazoned when registered in November 1981 as Quarterly sable and vert, a cross patty throughout between in bend a unicorn's head and a mullet, both palewise, all within a bordure argent, we no longer use the term patty, as it is ambiguous.

Aoyama Torataka. Name and device. Quarterly gules and sable, a natural tiger's head couped contourny argent striped sable, a bordure argent.

Torataka is a constructed nanori. Although it is not attested, there is a similar nanori, Takatora, dated to 1568 in NCMJ, revised edition, p. 107. In commentary, Solveig Throndardottir noted that, "[s]ince tsuuji (shared letters) can alternate positions in Japanese nanori we can reverse the order of the kanji as long as the result is not inauspicious."

Therefore, we are able to register this name as submitted.

There is a step from period practice for the use of a natural tiger's head.

Audrey of Foxhaven. Name and device. Argent, a fox rampant sable maintaining a rose gules slipped and leaved vert.

Although small, the rose is identifiable and thus this device is registerable.

Christopher of Ephesus. Name.

Christopher is the submitter's legal given name. The byname of Ephesus is a lingua Anglica form of the Greek byname Ephesios.

Ciprianna Loðinsdottir. Name and device. Per pale argent and vert, two domestic cats rampant addorsed counterchanged, on a chief purpure three mullets voided and interlaced, each within and conjoined to an annulet Or.

Submitted as Ciprianna Lodinnsdottir, the name was changed in kingdom to Ciprianna Loðinsdottir to correct the spelling of the genitive (possessive) form of Loðinn. We note that Loðinn is the registered given name of the submitter's father, but is also an attested Old Norse given name found in Geirr Bassi. Therefore, the submitter need not rely upon the grandfather clause.

Ciprianna is the submitter's legal given name.

The submitter may wish to know that there is a 1387 patronym, Lodinssyni (in the genitive form), found in Diplomatarium Norvegicum (http://www.dokpro.uio.no/perl/middelalder/diplom_vise_tekst.prl?b=1637&s=n&str=Lodins%). The particle dottir is attested in Norway in 1382, with the name Ræist dottir found in Aryanhwy merch Catmael's draft article "Medieval Norwegian Feminine Names" [Valdemar Sigurdson, January 2011, A-Lochac]. Therefore, the byname Lodin dottir or Lodinsdottir would be registerable as a late 14th century form.

Ian Leslie of Kilgairen. Reblazon of device. Gules, on a bend between two Celtic crosses argent, three thistles proper.

Blazoned when registered in May 1988 as Gules, on a bend between two Celtic crosses patty argent, three thistles proper, we no longer use the ambiguous term patty. The Society definition of Celtic crosses includes slightly splayed arms, so no modifier to the term is necessary.

James Methodius. Reblazon of device. Gyronny crosswise azure and Or, a sun in his splendor gules.

Blazoned when registered in November 1973 as Azure, a cross patty throughout Or, overall a sun gules, we no longer use the ambiguous term patty in our blazon. On examination of the device, there isn't really a cross. The parts of the design other than the sun are divided nearly equally into eight parts by straight-line divisions, though the gyrons are centered on the corners of the field instead of having the lines of division issuant from there as is more usual.

Katrina Krüger von Brandenburg. Reblazon of device. Azure, on a fess between four crosses formy three and one Or, two crosses formy azure.

Blazoned when registered in January 1986 as Azure, on a fess between four crosses paty, three and one, Or, two more azure, we no longer use the ambiguous term paty.

Loðinn vikingr. Badge. Vert, a castle issuant from base argent and in chief a dragon courant contourny Or.

Maelgwyn de Lyonesse. Reblazon of device. Azure, on a fess gules between four roses three and one argent barbed and seeded Or a lion passant gardant argent.

Blazoned when registered in January 1976 as Tierced per fess azure, gules, and azure, a lion passant guardant between four roses, three and one, argent, barbed and seeded Or, we are reblazoning it using modern charge group theory. Under the original blazon, it was impossible to tell if the lion was only on the gules section of the field, or was also on the azure portions of the field.

Mists, Principality of the. Badge for the populace. Argent, a sea-wolf contourny vert, a bordure engrailed azure.

Commentary indicated that this badge was intended for use as a populace badge.

Nikolai Iastrebov. Device. Per chevron azure and vert, three bezants and a hawk volant to sinister chief Or.

Perrin Loðinsson. Name (see RETURNS for device).

Submitted as Perrin Lodinsson, the name was changed in kingdom to Perrin Loðinsson to correct the spelling of the genitive (possessive) form of Loðinn. We note that Loðinn is the registered given name of the submitter's father, but is an attested Old Norse given name found in Geirr Bassi. Therefore, the submitter is not relying upon the grandfather clause.

Perrin is the submitter's legal given name.

The submitter may wish to know that there is a 1387 patronym, Lodinssyni (in the genitive form), found in Diplomatarium Norvegicum (http://www.dokpro.uio.no/perl/middelalder/diplom_vise_tekst.prl?b=1637&s=n&str=Lodins%). The particle -son is found in the same source, dated to 1378 (http://www.dokpro.uio.no/perl/middelalder/diplom_vise_tekst.prl?b=1586&s=n&str=sson). Therefore, the byname Lodinssyn or Lodinsson would be registerable as a late 14th century form. Although we could restore the submitted form, we have not done so in this case in order to retain the spelling in his father's registered name. If he would like to change to the submitted form, he can make a request for reconsideration.

Raoul the Urbane. Reblazon of badge. Azure, on a saltire formy throughout purpure fimbriated two recorders in saltire argent.

Blazoned when registered in May 1980 as Azure, on a saltire patty throughout purpure fimbriated two recorders in saltire argent, we no longer use the ambiguous term patty.

Sabrina de la Bere. Badge. (Fieldless) A bear rampant sable sustaining a rose gules slipped and leaved vert.

The rose was drawn as a garden rose. We do not blazon this variant; but its use is a step from period practice.

Savannah Lee. Reblazon of device. Per pale argent and bendy sinister azure and argent, a cross formy throughout counterchanged, a bordure sable.

Blazoned when registered in September 1971 as Per pale argent and bendy-sinister azure and argent, a cross patty throughout counterchanged within a bordure sable, we no longer use the ambiguous term patty.

Seonaid inghean Uí Ruadháin. Name and device. Argent, a badger hound sejant erect gules, on a chief sable three bezants.

Submitted as Seonaid Ó Ruadhaín, the byname Ó Ruadhaín is a masculine form. Gaelic uses literal patronyms, so the name was changed in kingdom to Seonaid inghean Uí Ruadháin to use the feminine form of the byname. However, this modification is a major change, which the submitter did not allow. During commentary, kingdom contacted the submitter, who gave her permission to make this change.

Stephen Corvinus. Name.

Nice 16th century German name!

Thoen Silverthorn of Silver Desert. Name.

Silverthorn was documented in the Letter of intent using a genealogical site (which may use normalized forms) and as a constructed English byname. In commentary, Ogress found Silverthorn as an attested surname dated to 1601 and 1607 in the FamilySearch Historical Records.

This name combines a Dutch given name and English byname. This is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA.

Silver Desert is the registered name of an SCA branch.

Verena of Laurelin. Reblazon of device. Azure, in canton a crux ansata Or.

Blazoned when registered in January 1973 as Azure, in canton a crux ansata patty Or, we no longer use the ambiguous term patty. In this case, a crux ansata (also known as an ankh) is typically drawn with slightly spreading arms, so the modifier is not needed.

West Returns - February LoAR

Perrin Loðinsson. Device. Gules, on a pale between two dragons combattant Or a sword sable blade enflamed vert.

This device is returned for redraw. Blazoned as a sword sable, blade enflamed vert the "enflaming" appears to consist of gouttes disposed around the blade with no contact. Proper enflaming should consist of langues of flames issuing from the blades all around it.

In Service,
Krysta of Starfall,
Green Crown Pursuivant


SUBMISSONS – May (2016)

ITEMS SENT TO LAUREL
Angelo Sidoti (CHANGE of primary name; retain old name as alternate - Sent on to Laurel)

Registered Name: Úlfarr veiðimaðr Eysteinsson

Will accept changes; Language/culture most important (Sicilian culture; Sidoti surname); Gender: male; Authenticity request for (language and/or culture and time period) 15th-16th century Sicilian.

Angelo – found in “Italian Masculine Given Names from 15th- and 16th-century: Viterbo” by Sara L. Uckelman (Aryanhwy merch Catmael) http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/viterbo.html dated to 1511.

Sidoti – dated to 1443 in "Il blasone in Sicilia ossia Raccolta araldica: Testo, Volume 1" by Vincenzo Palizzolo Gravina (1871) https://books.google.com/books?id=BQlSAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=o nepage&q=Sidoti%20&f=false. There is an Alfonso Sidoti listed on p.348

The Italian name formation [given + byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.


Anna von Darniburc (NEW Name and Device - Sent on to Laurel)

Will accept changes; Meaning most important (from Darniburc); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; Authenticity request for language and/or culture 11th-14th century German.

Anna – "Medieval German Given Names from Silesia - Women's Names" by Talan Gwynek (Brian M. Scott), http://heraldry.sca.org/names/bahlow_v.htm.

von – SENA Appendix A German locative article for place names.

Darniburc – "Regesta Imperii - Heinrich II., 1014 September 17,, Halberstadt: Heinrich bestätigt dem Marienkloster bei Gandershe..." <http://regesta-imperii.digitale-sammlungen.de/regest/ri02_ri_1014-09-17_000001_000001_002_004_001_00 0631_0000001850>.

The German name formation [given + locative article + locative byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Armory:
Per chevron azure and argent, three calendulas counterchanged Or and gules, all slipped and leaved vert.

No conflict found.


Beri le Tuillier (NEW Name – Sent on to Laurel; Device returned for redrawing)

Will accept changes; Sound most important (Barry); Will allow a holding name; Gender: male; Authenticity request not marked, but “13-14 cent France/Northern Spain” written in.

Beri – found in “DRAFT: Names in the 1292 census of Paris” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/1292paris.pdf, page 22, dated to 1292.

le Tuillier – found in “Occupational By-Names in the 1292 Tax Role of Paris” By Colm Dubh, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/parisbynames.html; “tiler, tile maker.” This source shows only one “l” – Tuilier; spelling with 2 “l’s” is a variant of equal occurrence in the census per in “DRAFT: Names in the 1292 census of Paris” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/1292paris.pdf page 135 (6 instances).

The French name formation [given + occupational byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.


Bersi Eðvarðarson (CHANGE of Name and Device - Sent on to Laurel; release old name and device)

Registered Name and Device: Bera Eðvarðardóttir, registered in June 2015. Per saltire argent and azure, a valknut sable, registered in July 2013; to be released.

Will accept changes; Important – Sound (none noted); Gender: male; No authenticity request.

Bersi – Bassi, p. 8

Eðvarðarson – Eðvarðr is found on p. 9 of Bassi. Formation of the genitive <Eðvarðar-> is according to Bassi, p. 17.

The Scandinavian (any time period) name formation [given + patronymic] is shown in Appendix A in SENA.

Armory:
Per saltire azure and argent a bear couchant contourny sable.

No conflicts found.


Catelot le Tuillier (NEW Name – Sent on to Laurel; Device returned for redrawing, Badge returned for conflict)

Will accept changes; Sound most important (Cat); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; Authenticity request not marked, but “13-14 cent French/northern Spain” written in.

Catelot – found in An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris by Lord Colm Dubh, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/paris.html.

la Tuilliere – found in “Occupational By-Names in the 1292 Tax Role of Paris” By Colm Dubh, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/parisbynames.html; “tiler, tile maker.” This source shows only one “l” – Tuilier; spelling with 2 “l’s” is a variant of equal occurrence in the census per in “DRAFT: Names in the 1292 census of Paris” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/1292paris.pdf page 135 (6 instances). We believe the feminine form would be the submitted “la Tuilliere.”

The French name formation [given + occupational byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.


Catrin Aderyn (NEW Badge – Sent on to Laurel)

Lozengy vert and Or, a chief embattled argent.

No conflict found.



Da’ud ibn Ali (CHANGE Device, retain old device as a badge; NEW Badge - Sent on to Laurel)

Device:
Per pale sable and azure, a horse rampant atop a mountain argent.

When Submitter’s current device, Per pale sable and azure, a horse rampant and a mount argent was registered in July 1990, he was told that a “mount” and a “mountain” were the same, and has since been using the armory as depicted here. He is requesting this change of device to conform his actual registered primary device with his use practice. He gives himself permission to conflict. No conflict found.

Badge:
Fieldless, a horseshoe per pale sable and azure.

No conflict found.


Dís Bjarnylr (NEW Name – Sent on to Laurel)

Will not accept MAJOR changes; Language and/or culture most important (Old Norse); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; no authenticity request

Dís – found in Bassi, p. 9.

Bjarnylr - found in Bassi, p. 20 meaning “bear-warmth.”

The Scandinavian/Old Norse name formation [given + descriptive byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.


Dómarr Grímsson (RESUB Name and Device to Kingdom – Sent on to Laurel)

Name submitted on form: Dómarr Grimsson.

Will accept changes; Meaning, Language and/or culture most important (none noted); Will allow a holding name; Gender: male; no authenticity request

Dómarr – found in Bassi, p. 9.

Grímsson - The name Grímr can be found in Bassi, p. 10. On Bassi, p. 17, we find the correct formation of the patronymic from [Grímr] is [Grímsson]. We have changed the submitted name from “Grimsson” to “Grímsson” to comply with the “all accents or none” requirement.

The patronymic formation is shown in “A Simple Guide to Creating Old Norse Names” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/sg-viking.html; where it is shown that a father’s given name ending in –mr (Grímr) would generate the patronymic “Grímsson” for a male child, by dropping the “r” and adding “–sson”.

Armory:
Sable, a tree blasted and on a chief rayonny argent three crescents gules.

The prior submission, for Dómari Grimmrson, was returned at the March 2016 meeting. In Bassi, p. 9 we find “Dómarr.” We cannot find “Dómari” used as a name. The name Grímr can be found in Bassi, p. 10. We do not find “Grimmr” with two “m’s” in Bassi. In Bassi, p. 17, we find the correct formation of the patronymic from [Grímr] is [Grímsson]. The device suffers from several minor problems that mean that it must be returned. The chief is not wide enough - it should be at least a quarter of the field in width. The crescents have been "squished" due to the thin chief. The arcs that define the edges of the crescents should be circular. Lastly there should be many fewer and deeper rays on the rayonny. Returned for redrawing and to make sure the changes to the name elements are acceptable to the submitter. This submission accepts the changes in the submitted name, and nicely redraws the device. No conflicts found.


Elena verch Rhys (NEW Name –Sent on to Laurel; Device returned for redrawing)

Will accept changes; Sound most important (none noted); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; No authenticity request.

Elena – found in “A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names” by Heather Rose Jones/Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn, https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welsh13.html. Elena is also found in Morgan & Morgan, dated in that spelling to 1326 (p.137, s.n. Ieuan) and 1581 (p.118, s.n. Gwynedd).

verch – Appears in the base data 83 times according to “Women's Names in the First Half of 16th Century Wales (with particular attention to the surnames of married women)” by Heather Rose Jones/Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn https://s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welshWomen16/.

Rhys – Appears in “Women's Names in the First Half of 16th Century Wales (with particular attention to the surnames of married women)” by Heather Rose Jones/Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn https://s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welshWomen16/ and is shown as a patronymic byname element. Rhys is also found in Morgan & Morgan, dated to 1312 (p. 45, SN Arawn) and 1541-58 (p. 51, SN Bennet).

The Welsh name formation [given + patronymic article + father’s given name] is found in “Women's Names in the First Half of 16th Century Wales (with particular attention to the surnames of married women) ” by Heather Rose Jones/Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn https://s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welshWomen16/.


Elizabeth de Belcaire (RESUB Device to Kingdom – Sent ot Laurel)

Per chevron Or and purpure, two butterflies purpure.

No conflict found.



Emma the Bold (RESUB Device to Kingdom, transfer from CAID CoH – Sent on to Laurel)

Azure, a domestic cat statant guardant, on a chief Or two roses proper.

Emma's previous device submission, Azure, a domestic cat statant guardant and on a chief Or three roses gules was returned by the Kingdom of Caid at their October 2015 meeting for conflict with Mihrimah bind Arslan, Azure, a lioness passant and on a chief Or three wagon wheels gules, with one DC for change of type of tertiary charge. The removal of one of the roses clears this conflict. No conflict found.



Gillian Winter (NEW Name – Sent on to Laurel)

Will accept changes; Sound most important (“j” sound in Gillian); Will allow a holding name; Gender: none marked; no authenticity request

Gillian – found in Reaney & Wilson http://heraldry.sca.org/names/reaneyHZ.html, SN Juliana; Gilian is found as a vernacular form, dated to 1230 and 1273.

Winter – “Winterman”, describing a servant of a man named “Winter,” is found in Index of Names in the 1292 Subsidy Roll of London by Sara L. Uckelman http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/surlondon1292.html. In FamilySearch we find many burial records from England dated in the 1500s; eg James Winter, buried May 20, 1561, batch no. B02452-3.

The English name formation [given + byname] is shown in Appendix A in SENA.


Gisela Eger (NEW Name and Device – Sent on to Laurel)

Will accept changes; No most important checked; Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; No authenticity request.

Gisela – found in Brechenmacher, Vol. 1, page 561 SN Giselen, as son of Gisela dated 1496, Gerd Gyselen Ratmann zu Oldenburg. Also, Socin, page 54 SN Gisela frau des 1202.

Eger – found in Brechenmacher, Vol. 1, page 380 SN Eger dated 1425.

The German name formation [given + byname] is found SENA Appendix A.

Armory:
Quarterly azure and vert, an owl and on a chief argent four roses gules seeded Or.

No conflict found.



Gwyneth fitz-Rolf (CHANGE of Device – Sent on to Laurel; retain old device as a badge)

Old device registered February 1975: Argent, a rampion stalk proper between three mullets azure.

Argent, a polypus sable between three mullets azure.

No conflict found.



Isabella Cavalieri (RESUB Name and Device to Kingdom – Sent on to Laurel)

Will not accept MAJOR or MINOR changes; No most important; Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; Authenticity request for “16th Century Venice”.

Isabella - found in “Names from 16th Century Venice” by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith), https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/16thcvenice.html.

Cavalieri - found in “Surnames from a 16th Century Italian Armorial” by Coblaith Muimnech http://www.coblaith.net/Names/ItSur/CAV.html. The spelling [Cavalieri] is listed in “Late Period Italian Women's Names: Florence” by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith) [http://medievalscotland.org/jes/Nuns/Florence.shtml].

The Italian name formation [given + byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Armory:
Per pale wavy azure and vert, a seahorse argent and a horse Or combatant, in base a rose argent.

The prior name and device submission was returned in March 2016: PN.4.B.1 of SENA states: “Names may not contain an element or group of elements that create the appearance of a claim to have a specific protected rank or title that the submitter does not possess within the Society, even if that name element or elements are attested. Those titles which are so protected can be found in the List of Alternate Titles. Bynames which are identical to titles used in the Society are generally not allowed for individuals who do not have that rank. Relatively minor changes to the form of the byname can remove the appearance of a claim to rank.” The List of Alternate Titles, http://heraldry.sca.org/titles.html#table1 shows “Cavaliere” as the Italian alternate title for “Knight” which makes this name “Isabelle the Knight”; we can forward either spelling WITHOUT the “de” under SENA PN.4.B.1, but including the article is a claim to Knighthood. In the alternative, if the submitter can document an occupational/descriptive byname that just means “horseman” or “horse rider” but doesn’t ALSO mean Knight, it would be fine to include the “de.” Submitter has elected to omit the “de.”

The device also needed redrawing: If the horses are meant to be in chief, the rose needs to be MUCH bigger AND this would then be slot machine; if they are meant to be primary, they need to be more centered. Submitter will be encouraged to draw the wavy more regularly. The drawing submitted here has been adjusted in line with the advice above. No conflict found.


Janeke Viðarsson (NEW Name and Device – Sent to Laurel)

Will not accept MAJOR changes; Most important Sound (Yan-ick Veedt-HAAR-sen); Will allow a holding name; Gender: male; No authenticity request.

Janeke – found dated to 1415 in Sveriges medeltida personnamn (SMP) http://www.sprakochfolkminnen.se/sprak/namn/personnamn/sveriges-medeltida-personnamn/smp---natutgava-och-fullstandigt-register.html, SN Ianike; other forms found there are Ianacke, Janacke, Janicha (1410); Janika (1415).

Viðarsson – Viðarr is found in “Viking Names found in Landnámabók” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman). In "A Simple Guide to Creating Old Norse Names" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/sg-viking.html; we see the example “-rr > -rs: Geirr > Geirsson; thus Viðarr -> Viðarsson. This patronymic formation is also found in Bassi, p. 17.

The Swedish/Old Norse/Scandinavian name formation [given + patronymic byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Submitter would appreciate help in documenting a name that "sounds" like Yah-nik H-Vee-da-haar-son; he understands the name submitted here sounds closer to "Vee-thaar-son."

Armory:
Argent, a raven rising wings addorsed sable and a chief triangular azure.

No conflict found.


Liadain Crosthwayt (NEW Name and Device – Sent on to Laurel)

Will not accept MAJOR changes; Meaning and Language/culture most important (none noted); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; No authenticity request; submitter gives express permission to add the locative article “de” if necessary; also gives permission for any spelling of “Crosthwayt.”

Liadain – found in O’Corrain & Maguire, p. 122 (SN Liadan) Liadain is listed as an alternate spelling. Both St. Ciaran’s mother and the poet are mentioned there. No dates are given. Liadan was a 6th or 7th century nun and poet, as described in a 9th century poem. An electronic version of this poem is available at http://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/G303027/ and the spelling used there is [Liadain]; Another electronic version is at: http://www.univie.ac.at/indogermanistik/download/Stifter/Comracc_Liadaine_ocus_Cuirithir.htm. The manuscript sources are: [Note that the actual story and the names are not shown in these pages.] London, British Library, Harl. 5280, fo. 26f. [https://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/record.asp?MSID=7375&CollID=8&NStart=5280]. According to the British Library, this manuscript dates from the early part of the 16th century [http://www.vanhamel.nl/codecs/London,_British_Library,_MS_Harleian_5280]; AND Dublin, Trinity College Library, MS 1337 (olim H. 3. 18) 759f. According to the Trinity College library, the manuscript dates from the 15th and 16th centuries [http://www.vanhamel.nl/codecs/Dublin,_Trinity_College,_MS_1337].

Crosthwayt – found in Ekwall, p. 132, under the header Crossthwaite: Crosthwayt, 1233 and as Crossthweyt, 1246. The earliest example, Crossthwait, is dated to 1190.

Both the English and the Irish Gaelic name formation [given + locative byname] is found in SENA Appendix A, though the Gaelic formation of this type is noted to be “rare.” The submitted name combines a Gaelic given name with an English locative byname. Elements of names that mix name phrases from two regional naming groups must be documented to within 300 years of each other. St Ciaran of Seir lived from some time in the late 5th century to c. 530. Presumably his mother, Liadain, was older than he was. We would appreciate the assistance of the College of Arms in documenting “Liadain” as a name used within 300 years of 1190; or, submitter has stated she will accept any spelling of “Crosthwayt” that can be documented early enough to be used with Liadain.

Armory:
Per fess azure, and sable mullety of six points Or, a fess wavy argent and in chief three plates.

No conflicts found.


Lochlainn Bjornulfsson (CHANGE of primary name – Sent on to Laurel; retain old name as alternate)

Registered Name: Kors Damiszoon

Will not accept MAJOR changes; Language/culture most important (11th century Scottish and Norse); Gender: male; No authenticity request

Lochlainn – found in “Index of Names in Irish Annals: Lochlainn” by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (Kathleen M. O'Brien) http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Lochlainn.shtml dated from 983 through 1486.

Bjornulfsson – Bjornulf: Formations using Bjorn, Bjornolfr. Ulfr: Bassi, p. 15; Patronymic formation: Bassi, p. 17

Under the header [Aldúlfr], Gunnvôr silfrahárr [Christie Ward] states that when [-ulfr] is used as the second element of a name, it is always pronounced as -ólfr, and is often spelled that way [http://vikinganswerlady.com/ONMensNames.shtml]. All examples in Bassi seem to use the [-ólfr] spelling

Both Middle Gaelic and Old Norse show [given + patronymic byname] to be allowable name formation (though they take different forms) in SENA Appendix A; this name combines an Middle Irish Gaelic given name and an Old Norse patronymic (-son) byname. This is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA.


Margot de Janua (NEW Name and Device – Sent on to Laurel)

Will not accept MAJOR or MINOR changes; Meaning and Language/culture most important (“My persona has family origins in Genoa & my legal middle name is Janeway”); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; No authenticity request.

Margot – found in “An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris” by Colm Dubh, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/paris.html Margot la gantière.

de – locative article.

Janua – found in “Kent Hundred Rolls Project” http://www.kentarchaeology.ac/khrp/hrproject.pdf page 22, Willelmo de Janua, dated 1274-5; the text of which is in Latin.

The French/English (Latinized) name formation [given + article + locative byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Armory:
Per pale sable and argent, a domestic cat sejant gules.

No conflict found.


Michael MacAlpine (TRANSFER of armory – Sent to Laurel; Name registered May 1992)

Sable, a dragon rampant argent between three ermine spots Or. (registered September 1992)

Transfer of armory to Seth MacAlpine – Letter of Transfer and Letter of Acceptance of Transfer in Laurel’s packet.


Seth MacAlpine (TRANSFER of armory – Sent to Laurel; Name registered December 1995)

Sable, a dragon rampant argent between three ermine spots Or. (registered September 1992)

Transfer of armory from Michael MacAlpine – Letter of Transfer and Letter of Acceptance of Transfer in Laurel’s packet. Seth would like this armory to be registered to him as his device, and asks that his current device, Argent, a griffin sejant sable, on a chief gules a crescent Or (registered December 1995) be retained as a badge.


Úlfarr inn rammi (NEW Name and Device – Sent on to Laurel)

Will not accept MAJOR changes; Most important Language and/or culture (Norse); Will allow a holding name; Gender: male; No authenticity request.

Úlfarr – found in Bassi, p. 15.

inn rammi – found in “Viking Bynames found in the Landnamabok” by Sara L. Uckelman http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/vikbynames.html meaning “strong.” Also in Bassi, p. 26

The Old Norse name formation [given + descriptive byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Armory:
Quarterly gules and sable, on a cross argent a wolf’s head cabossed sable.

No conflict found.


RETURNS

Beri le Tuillier (NEW Name – Sent on to Laurel; Device returned for redrawing)

Azure a coney courant argent, on a chief checky azure and argent a label gules.

The submitted drawing has charge and pattern identifiability issues – the checky chief needs at least three rows to be clearly checky, and needs smaller squares to keep the azure checks on the azure field from merging and looking like an embattled line of division. The position of the rabbit is hard to determine, and the field showing through the rabbit’s rear legs all the way up to his sternum is confusing.

This would work better as a coney courant.



Catelot le Tuillier (NEW Name – Sent on to Laurel; Device returned for redrawing, Badge returned for conflict)

Azure a coney courant argent, a chief checky azure and argent.

The submitted drawing has charge and pattern identifiability issues – the checky chief needs at least three rows to be clearly checky, and needs smaller squares to keep the azure checks on the azure field from merging and looking like an embattled line of division. The position of the rabbit is hard to determine, and the field showing through the rabbit’s rear legs all the way up to his sternum is confusing.

This would work better as a coney courant.

Badge: Fieldless a coney courant argent.

The submitted badge conflicts with Matilda Bosville de Bella Aqua (registered December of 1991 via the East): Per fess embattled gules and argent ermined azure, in chief a coney courant argent; there is no DC for Change of Arrangement under SENA A.5.G.6. since this features an unforced moves to chief. Also a conflict: Aldyth Trefaldwyn (registered March of 1996 via the Outlands): Per fess rayonny purpure and Or, in chief a hare courant argent.



Elena verch Rhys (NEW Name –Sent on to Laurel; Device returned for redrawing)

Purpure, on a pale between two enfields combatant argent three pomegranates proper.

The pomegranates here are too close to a garden rosebud, which is not a registerable charge. Please draw the pomegranates more like this: http://mistholme.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/pomegranate.jpg.



PENDING (waiting for LoPtC’s)

These submissions will be posted to OSCAR on their own LoI as soon as we have received the LoPtC’s for them, or have absolute confirmation that such is not forthcoming.

James Onn Hinge (RESUB to Kingdom Name will be Sent to Laurel, Device – pending LoPtC)

Will not accept MAJOR changes; Most important Sound (Onn Hinge as a play on “unhinged”); Will allow a holding name; Gender: not specified; No Authenticity request; Will accept older spelling of “Hindge”; also will accept the name “James Place Holder.”

James - Withycombe, p. 170-172, from 1240 forward.

Onn – in FamilySearch https://familysearch.org/search/, we find Margaret Onn, christened Oct. 1589, Batch No. C03313-2.

Hinge - in FamilySearch https://familysearch.org/search/, we find Alice Hinge, married November 1577, Surrey, England, Batch No. M078152-1.

The late period English name formation [given + byname + byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Documentation for alternate acceptable double byname name: “Place Holder” - Family Search batch number C10865-3 Name John Place Gender Male Christening Date 03 May 1593 Christening Place Stongate, York, York, England Father's Name John Place; FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7M5-4BX : accessed 20 May 2016), John Holder, 05 Jul 1573; citing TEWKESBURY,GLOUCESTER,ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 427,789, 856,971.

Armory:
Argent, a pale embattled-counterembattled azure.

His prior submission, “James the Unhinged; Azure, a hinge fracted argent” was returned at Kingdom in May 2014 with these comments: the charge “hinge” is found in Parker in one coat of arms, “Sable, a fess between three door hinges argent”; family Cardinall. The hinge on Cardinall shows the pin in fess, not in pale. The submitted drawing appeared to the meeting attendees to be jester’s hats. The submission was also returned because we cannot send it on without a name, and “the Unhinged” could not be documented as a descriptive byname. The current submission is a complete redesign and a different take on “unhinged” which can be documented.

Possible conflict with Conor Sigmundsson (registered in April of 1999 via Ansteorra): Argent, on a pale bretessed azure a daisy proper. Removal of the tertiary is one DC; we believe the visual difference between bretessed and embattled-counterembattled should bring this clear of conflict. However, in the event that Wreath and the CoA do not agree, we have obtained a LoPtC from Don Conor (redacted copy included here; unredacted in Laurel’s packet).


Þórunn mjǫksiglanda ({Th}órunn mj{o,}ksiglanda) (NEW Name will be Sent to Laurel, Device, Badge – pending LoPtC)

Will not accept MAJOR changes; No most important; Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; No authenticity request.

Þórunn – found 34 times in “Viking Names found in Landnamabok” by Sara L. Uckelman http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html. Also in Bassi, p. 16.

mjǫksiglanda – found 3 times in “Viking Bynames found in the Landnamabok” by Sara L. Uckelman http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/vikbynames.html meaning “much-sailing, far-travelling;” per the same source, the terminal “i” has been changed to “a” to form a female byname. Also found in Bassi, p. 26.

The Old Norse name formation [given + descriptive byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Armory:
Sable mullety of eight points argent, a drakkar Or charged on the sail with an estoile sable.

Badge: Or, an estoile sable.

Submitter’s first design was Sable mullety of eight points argent, a drakkar Or charged on the sail with a mullet of eight points sable. Per http://heraldry.sca.org/precedents/alisoun/AMES.html, “There is a long-standing precedent in Society heraldry which considered charged sails as being equivalent to arms of pretense and therefore forbidden for Society usage: "You may not charge a sail if the resulting sail conflicts with existing arms". As the sail here appear[s] identical to at least one mundane item of armory, this device must be returned. (The passage of the arms of Eisenmarche cited ... in the letter of intent is a special case ...: the arms of the Society, which the Board has specifically stated may be displayed by any group.) (LoAR 28 Dec 86, p. 13) (See also: LoAR 28 Feb 87, p. 22; LoAR 27 Aug 89, p. 20); All of the examples of charged sails which we have been able find depictions of [in] period heraldry were displays of badges or arms claimed by the person or group who used the armory on which the sail appeared. Thus, such usage by definition creates an impression of pretense. When Master Wilhelm made the exception that groups might include a laurel wreath on a sail for group arms, he was reflecting this attitude, since the laurel wreath is an insignia to which all Society groups may lay claim. (LoAR 21 Jan 90, p. 20)”

The sail on this drakkar is therefore esentially considered a form of armorial display, and so is in conflict with Ansteorra, Kingdom of, augmentation registered in May of 2014: Or, a mullet of five greater and five lesser points within a bordure sable. Our next attempt to get a star on this sail was Sable mullety of eight points argent, a drakkar Or charged on the sail with an estoile sable. This also has a conflict: Or, an estoille between three dragon's heads couped sable registered to Killian Bryce in November of 1998 via Trimaris. Since there is addition (or removal) of a secondary group, there is a clear DC, and so we were able to obtain a Letter of Permission to Conflict.

We believe that SENA permits a decorative charge on the sail as long as it is not in conflict with a registered piece of armory, since a design on a sail that is not registered cannot create “pretense.”

However, to overcome the possible claim of “pretense,” we recommended that submitter also register a badge, Or an estoile sable. That way, the sail on her submitted device is HER badge, and therefore is in conformance with the utilization discussed in the precedent. The LoPtC from Killian Bryce also covers the submitted Badge.


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