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The meeting was held at Green Crown’s home. The next four meetings will be held at Green Crown’s home (564 Broadmoor Blvd., San Leandro, CA 94577; email email@example.com for directions).
Frederick of Holland, Vesper; Aasa Thorvaldsdottir, Seawolf and Compline; Krysta of Starfall, Green Crown; eilis o’Boirne, Banner; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Astrith of Swansvale, Latimer; Daffyd Waleis, Exchequer, Dep. Seawolf, Nebuly; Angus Duncan Cameron, PE for Cloondara; Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym, PaL; Edith of Swansdale, PEaL.
COLLEGE OF HERALDS MEETINGS
Heralds’ Meetings for 2016: May 22, July 10, September 18, November 20, January 8, 2017 (at 12th Night). Meetings begin at 11AM, with walk-in processing no later than 10:30AM. “Road show” meetings, if any, will be announced well in advance.
The DEADLINES for submission forms and documentation are: May 11; June 25; September 7; November 9; December 28. Submission forms must be complete, and received either via EMAIL or hardcopy by the deadline date at midnight to be considered at the next meeting (which is about 11 days later, except for June/July due to West-AnTir War). If the forms are EMAILED, then payment must arrive by the meeting day. WALK-IN submissions will only be considered if there is time, but in most cases will be delayed until the next meeting so that each submission can be reviewed fully.
Walk-in submissions may be held over until the following meeting at the discretion of Matins.
Vesper: Sent a report to Laurel on time. Roster letters out and 75% return as of today. One barony will have a new herald in place next week and one province not reporting. Hoping to have a complete roster by March Crown so that their Majesties can sign and can be forwarded to Laurel.
Seawolf: Nothing going on now; Coronet is the weekend after March Crown, and will be the final training for the most awesome Deputy, who will be stepping in at Mists Investiture.
Sable Swan: Not present, no report.
Stellanordica: One shire that does not have a herald, he is trying to get them a new herald.
Exchequer: Need to send Laurel money for submissions. 2015 report almost completed. Needs missing meeting deposit slips and to get on the signature card. Current Exchequer still needs to be added as a signatory to the account.
Matins (vacant - Green Crown reporting): KLoI is getting some commentary, but not from long-distance heralds as far as I can tell. Asked Vesper to suggest to all KLoI readers that they comment at the top of the letter that they did review it and had no comments. Deadlines for submissions have been published, approximately 11 days prior to the next meeting (except for the July meeting, which is allowed more time due to West-AnTir). Emailed files of submissions have fallen off, this needs to be brought up as a reminder for individuals submitting. Pdf files are fine, jpegs are not being done correctly – they seem to be coming in at 144 dpi instead of 300 dpi, and many scans are picking up the scanner back, and so are not 8.5x11.
Green Crown: Attending Wreath and proofreading LoARs. Question - Can a name or armory be changed between close of comments on the LoI and approval? – only if the change is suggested by Pelican or Wreath based on new or better information, etc. but this is only done if the name would be returned rather than accepted as it was submitted. Wreath will also contact someone if the submitter marked “no changes” but a small change (spelling, grammar) would allow the name to pass rather than being rejected. The submission can be withdrawn after commentary, before official decision.
Banner: All the courts of their Majesties have been covered. There have been no Crown events. The courts at Estrella were covered by Greencloak; Golem is awaiting the court reports.
Baldric: Set to do the spring heraldic Collegium at Golden Beltane. We need a schedule of classes, teachers, etc. Need to have a Sr. staff meeting to plan this, maybe a conference call or online meeting. Edith can teach if someone else supplies the materials; she will be on site on Monday. Baldric would like a replacement.
Brachet: Has been commenting on other kingdom letters.
Greencloak: Not present, no report.
Latimer: Will be in England for October Crown. No events recently, so no table. Prepared for March Crown.
Golem: Website is up tp date; Awards List is up to date. Everything is working.
Archivist (Gwenhwyfaer): Sent a bunch of files to Shauna and Emma for Laurel’s scanned data repository.
ANNOUNCEMENTS / Other BusinessLaurel requires now 0 (zero) paper submissions – we need only one copy and Matins doesn’t mail anything to Laurel, just sends scans. Effective immediately we will only require from submitters:
Name submission: one copy and documentation
Device submission: one line drawing, one colored drawing, with documentation if needed
Badge submission: one line drawing, one colored drawing, documentation as needed
Money: $10 for name+device or name+badge, $6 for individual submissions.
Colored submissions are still required to be hand colored using markers, not crayons or pencils, and must be colored with “quality markers” so colors don’t change; we encourage the use of Crayola Classic markers. If the submission is not colored in true colors, the College is required to send it back.
|Black and white line
outline and internal line
|Black and white line
outline with solid black
sections colored in.
|Greyscale copy of
MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at firstname.lastname@example.org.
ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Vesper at email@example.com -- answers may take a few days.
West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds' website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm.
The office of Brachet Herald was filled as of the September meeting; no commenting meetings are being held, but Brachet is brainstorming to try to do e-meetings. More news soon.
EXCERPTS FROM THE LOARSThe cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.
November 2015 LoAR (printed January 21, 2016) (West Pends)
From Laurel: KWHSS 2017 Bids Requested
For those considering bidding on the 2017 Known World Heraldic and Scribal Symposium, the deadline to have your bid entered into OSCAR is March 1, 2016. This will give the College of Arms time for consideration so that we can announce the bid's award at the 2016 KWHSS in the Barony of Loch Salann, Artemisia, on April 29-May 1 at the Road Show.
Please remember that bids posted to OSCAR are publicly readable. Because of this, any personal information, such as legal names, addresses, phone numbers, and email, should not be included in these bids without signed written permission. Such information as is necessary for the entire College of Arms to see should be posted as a comment after the bid is finalized; such information as is necessary for the Sovereigns only to see should be included as a Sovereign Note.
Please send a copy of the full unredacted bid to Laurel at firstname.lastname@example.org.
As a reminder, there is a KWHSS domain and web hosting space available on the SCA's servers. Please do not register a new domain.
Please see http://heraldry.sca.org/kwhss/ or contact Laurel if you have any questions.
West Acceptances - November LoAR
Æsa Vthyrmsdottir. Device. Azure, three suns Or each charged with a rose gules seeded Or.
Jak Wyldmy. Device. Quarterly azure and argent, a lion sejant affronty Or.
This device was pended on the June 2015 Letter of Acceptances and Returns to allow more commentary to determine whether Edward IV of England's a rose en soleil badge should be a restricted charge or simply protected from conflict; and in the latter case, whether in a tinctureless form, or when tinctured argent and/or gules. Its historical use seems to have been limited to Edward IV, which doesn't justify its inclusion on our list of Restricted Charges. Instead, we will now protect it from conflict, in its two historical forms: (Fieldless) A rose argent en soleil Or and (Fieldless) A rose gules en soleil Or.
As the charge is no longer restricted, this device is registerable.
The submitter has permission to conflict with the device of Michael Vladimir Gerewolf: Per pale ermine and counter-ermine, a three-headed cheetah sejant affronty, outer heads addorsed, Or.
West Returns - November LoAR
December 2015 LoAR (printed February 17, 2016) (West LoI 24 Sep, 2015)
From Laurel: Order Names and Award Names are Not Interchangeable
Greetings! On this letter we have registered the Company of Noble Touch, for the Barony of Wintermist in Caid. This was done as a courtesy to the Barony as their cited precedent did not apply to order names, but rather only household names. As of this writing, we will no longer change an unregisterable order name to a registerable household name. The courtesy was extended to the Barony of Wintermist as we had not previously prohibited this practice. Order and Household names are not interchangeable. Corpora requires that groups register their award names. As such, this practice amounts to rules abuse, and it will no longer be endorsed by the College of Arms. For more information on acceptable patterns for order and award names, please see Juliana de Luna's article "Medieval Secular Order Names" at http://heraldry.sca.org/names/order/new/.
From Pelican: The Use of Iron in Household Names
A submission this month documented the use of Iron as part of the substantive element in a household name following an inn-sign name pattern. One example of Iron was found in period: the gray period la Crois de Fer ("the Iron Cross"). Given this example and other examples of inn-sign names using the pattern material + heraldic charge, we allow the use of Iron in similar household names.
Several kinds of non-personal names can be derived from descriptions of devices, sign names, and badges; these include order names, heraldic titles, and household names. These household names, derived from the signs used to identify houses and inns, follow a different and wider set of models than similar order names and heraldic titles, derived from personal and order badges. Houses are sometimes marked by metal objects such as tin or pewter pots or dishes, and brass fittings (like Brasenose, from a doorknocker). Iron Cross fits in this pattern. This pattern is not found for order names or heraldic titles, which only use the vernacular forms of heraldic titles. For this reason, this pattern and other patterns found only in household names cannot be used to construct order names and heraldic titles. To register an order name using Iron or similar materials in period order names, evidence for that usage in order names, not just in household names, would be required. Other patterns documented from household names similarly are not evidence to create new order names and heraldic titles.
From Pelican: Protection of Real-World Heraldic Titles
In the July 2015 Letter of Acceptances and Returns, we pended the heraldic title Faraute Flores to allow discussion on whether it presumed upon a real-world heraldic title from the 15th century. In the case of that submission, Flores served the king of Castille, but no further information about this service or individuals who have held the office could be found.
We asked commenters which real-world historical titles are important enough to protect: any title used by royal appointees, or only the more prominent titles? And how should we characterize the prominence? Some titles are protected because of the importance of the positions (e.g., Garter and Montjoy), whereas others have been protected because a herald who held the title wrote a heraldic book (e.g., Gelre). Others are important because they are still in use (e.g., Bluemantle).
In the past, a number of real-world heraldic titles were unprotected, and several (like Sans Repose and Fleur-de-Lys) have since been registered to Heralds Extraordinary in the Society. However, both of these registrations were made without comment, and did not set precedent. At the time, the issue of presumption was not raised in the Letters of Intent or in commentary.
Therefore, we are settting new protection standards for real-world heraldic titles. In general, we will protect notable heraldic titles, particularly those used by Kings of Arms (e.g., Garter and Cronista Kings of Arms) and/or that are still in use. We also protect titles created by important royals and important titles created by minor royals. Protection of minor titles created by minor royals, or of heraldic titles associated with authors of well-known heraldic treatises will be considered on a case-by-case basis. If a heraldic title shares a name with an order that is itself worthy of protection, the title is also worthy of protection.
From Wreath: Should the triskele get a step from period practice?
Since Karina Laurel allowed it first in the mid-1970s we do not seem to have seriously questioned whether the triskele, a.k.a. the triskelion arrondi, as the Society defines it (as opposed to modern real world usage) was actually a period charge.
The triskelion arrondi was first registered in the Society under Karina Laurel in 1975. Its second registration was to the (then) Principality of Trimaris, in 1981; when Trimaris registered its arms in 1982, the same charge was blazoned by Wilhelm Laurel as a triskele, and the terms have been synonymous in Society blazonry ever since. But while the charge has had a steady run in Society armory, no documentation for it was ever supplied. Thus we have no examples of its use as a period charge, or even a period artistic motif.
The period heraldic examples of triskelions were composed of three human legs (as in the arms of the Isle of Man c.1280) or three human arms (as in the arms of Tremaine c.1470). There may be examples of other animate charges, or portions thereof, conjoined in a way that could be characterized as a triskelion. But the geometric stylization of the triskelion arrondi is unknown in period heraldry. There were period artistic motifs that we'd consider to be triskelions - e.g., the triskelion of spirals found in Celtic art - but none of them quite match the charge we've been registering as a triskelion arrondi/triskele.
The triskelion of spirals has already been ruled to be a step from period practice. Given the current absence of evidence for the triskelion arrondi or triskele, we are proposing to rule it a step from period practice as well. We ask for commentary on this matter, and in particular for any documentation of the charge (as it's defined in Society heraldry) from period heraldry or period art.
West Acceptances - December LoAR
Bernhardt Barkenhausen. Name and device. Argent, a bull and a bear combattant sable, a bordure azure.Catherine of Golden Rivers. Holding name and device (see PENDS for name). Or, a bend gules cotised between two fleurs-de-lys sable.
Charles van den Haaghe. Name and device. Argent, a gurges vert.
Submitted under the name Catherine de Mailly.
Conn MacKay. Name (see RETURNS for device).
Submitted as Charles van den Haag, the Dutch place name Haag was not dated, and is likely a modern form. Attested spellings include Haage (1400-1550), Haghe (1417), Haegh (1625), and Hage (1612). The first two spellings are found in Luana de Grood's article "Flemish Names from Bruges" (http://www.s-gabriel.org/docs/bruges/byname-list2.html), and the latter two are found in the FamilySearch Historical Records. We have changed the name to Charles van den Haaghe with the submitter's permission.
Although the Letter of Intent documented Charles as an English 13th century name, Ogress found it in "Names from Dutch Records Between 1584-1585" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/dutch/vandermeulen.html). Therefore, this name is entirely Dutch.
Conor MacKaylly. Name.
The given name Conn was documented in the Letter of Intent from the article "Fourteenth to Sixteenth Century Irish Names and Naming Practices (The Fitzwilliam Accounts)" by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/lateirish/). However, the spelling Conn is a standard form, with the attested form spelled Con. The submitted spelling is found in Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada's "Index of Names in Irish Annals" (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Conn.shtml), dated as late as 1559. Therefore, we are able to register this name as submitted.
MacKay is a reasonable variant of the attested Mckay or Mackay, found in the FamilySearch Historical Records and in Black, s.n. Mackay, respectively.
This name combines an Irish Gaelic given name and a Scots byname. This is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA.
This name does not conflict with the registered name Conal McKay. A syllable has been added to the given name, so this name is clear under PN3C2 of SENA.
Cynehild Cynesigesdohtor. Badge. (Fieldless) A blonde woman affronty proper vested azure seated atop a bear passant argent. Dolce Olivia Veneziana. Name and device. Or, a bunch of grapes slipped and leaved proper, a sinister gore purpure ermined Or.
This name does not conflict with the registered name Conor MacKaine. A syllable has been removed from the byname, so this name is clear under PN3C2 of SENA.
Donnubán se Reade. Name.
There is a step from period practice for the use of a gore with another charge on the field.
Elsa Näherin van Aurec. Name and device. Per fess wavy argent estoilly azure and azure, in base a lion dormant Or.
This name combines a Gaelic given name and Old English byname. This is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA.
Éua of Fettburg. Holding name and device (see PENDS for name). Or, three pommes each charged with a quatrefoil knot argent, a chief indented sable.
Submitted as Elsa Näherin von Aurec, the byname von Aurec combines the High German von with the Low German Aurec in the same name phrase (Lower Saxony is a Low German-speaking area). This runs afoul of PN1B1 of SENA, which does not allow the mixing of languages in the same name phrase. We have changed the byname to the entirely Low German form van Aurec, as it more closely meets the submitter's desired language and culture.
The submitter may wish to know that the entirely High German form of the byname is von Aurich. Aurich was found as an unmarked surname in the FamilySearch Historical Records, dated to 1593. If the submitter prefers this form, she may submit a request for reconsideration.
Genevieve Elizabeth of Roseberry Topping. Device. Per chevron embattled gules and argent, two roses and a dragon counterchanged. Hosokawa Yoshitatsu. Name and device. Or, an Oriental dragon rampant gardant azure, in chief an arrow fesswise reversed sable.
Submitted under the name Éua ingen Tuathail.
Katherine Noel de Lyon. Name.
There is a step from period practice for the use of an Oriental dragon.
Lyric of Cynagua. Name and device. Azure, on a bend sinister between two rabbits rampant each maintaining a drawn bow with arrow nocked argent, three decrescents palewise purpure.
Submitted as Katherine Noel de Lyon, the name was changed in kingdom to Katherine Noël de Lyon. This change was not summarized in the Letter of Intent, and the spelling Noël was not documented in our period. We have restored this name to the submitted form.
Margery Garret. Badge. Per fess embattled sable mullety argent, and gules, in base a crescent argent.
Submitted as Amira of Golden Rivers, Amira is the submitter's legal middle name. However, it is also an alternate title meaning "princess". SENA PN4B1 states that, "Given names that are identical to titles and forms of address may be registered in contexts that make it clear that they are given names and not titles."
The Letter of Intent mentioned a prior registration of Amira of Raven's Cove as an example of "the recent registration of this name with a locative that does NOT violate SENA PN.4.B.1". This registration was made without comment, which does not set precedent. This section of SENA and prior precedents concerning Amira were upheld as recently as June 2014 [Amira de Kent, R-Lochac], and we will continue to uphold this precedent. The combination of Amira with a locative byname makes it unclear whether Amira is a given name or title. Therefore, this name cannot be registered as submitted.
The submitter allowed a change to the name Lyric of Cynagua. We have made this change to register this name.
Lyric is the submitter's legal given name. Cynagua is the registered name of an SCA branch.
Muirgel ingen Gáethíne. Device. Or, three chevronels braced and on a chief sable three calamaries Or. Niðbjorg at Hrafnagili. Name.
The low contrast embattled line of division is grandfathered to the submitter. Please instruct the submitter to draw fewer, deeper embattlements.
Safiya bint Zakariya al-Tayyib. Name (see RETURNS for device). Thora vefari. Name.
Submitted as Niðbjorg Hrafnagil, the submitter requested authenticity for "Nordic", but the desired language/culture was not specified in the Letter of Intent.
The place name Hrafnagil ("raven's gully") must be in the dative case and must be marked using a preposition. We have changed the byname to at Hrafnagili in order to register this name.
Both the given name and the place name Hrafnagil are found in the Landnámabók, so this name is authentic for 9th or 10th century Iceland.
Thyri of Vakkerfjell. Name and device. Per saltire gules and sable, two wolves combattant and a bordure Or.
Submitted as Thora in vefara, the byname vefara ("weaver") is a noun, so does not use the article in ("the"), which is used with adjectival forms. Nouns also do not generally change to match the gender of the given name. Therefore, we have dropped the article and changed the byname to the attested form vefari in order to register the name.
Treásach þjóðhagi. Name and device. Quarterly Or and barry wavy argent and azure, a drakkar purpure.
Vakkerfjell is the registered name of an SCA branch.
William Whyte. Name and device. Argent, a chevron purpure and overall a rapier sable.
Submitted as Treásach þjóðhaga, the attested þjóð-hagi is a noun and does not need to be feminized, and in fact cannot be without further documentation. In addition, the byname appeared in the Letter of Intent with a capital letter thorn, but it was submitted with a lowercase thorn. Norse bynames can be registered either in lowercase or with the first letter capitalized. Therefore, we have changed the byname to þjóðhagi to register this name.
Treásach is the submitter's legal given name. We note that her driver's license does not include the accent, but we are able to give the submitter the benefit of the doubt because legal documents frequently omit such markings.
The question was raised whether the byname Þjóðhagi (glossed as "great artist, master craftsman" in Cleasby and Vigfusson) presumes upon the Order of the Laurel under PN4B1 of SENA. The term Þjóð means "great, very", and does not have the same connotation of "master" used by our peerage orders. In addition, Þjóðhagi is not a reserved title. Thus, it is not a presumptuous byname.
Nice 14th century English name!
West Returns - December LoAR
Cloondara, Shire of. Badge. Or, three chevronels vert, overall two towers in fess gules.
Conn MacKay. Device. Per saltire lozengy argent and vert, and argent, in fess two wolverines combattant sable marked argent.
This badge is returned for redraw, for having abased chevronels where the move is not forced by other elements of the design. Precedent from the LoAR January 1992 states:Further refined in the LoAR November 2002:
"These bendlets are enhanced so much to chief that the style becomes unacceptably modern" [Penelopee of the Quill, R-East, Jan 1992 LoAR].
"The chevron abased here is too far to base to be acceptable without documentation for such a design in period. Overly enhanced ordinaries have been a reason for return for many years as non-period style: "These bendlets are enhanced so much to chief that the style becomes unacceptably modern" (LoAR January 1992). Overly abased ordinaries suffer from the same problem." [Muirgius mac Con Mara hui Ségdai, R-Trimaris, Nov 2002 LoAR]
Cosma Drago. Device change. Purpure chaussé argent.
Wolverines are not documented as period charges. As such, they must be compared visually with other animals. In this case, commenters agreed that these wolverines look rather like bears; thus there is no DC between these wolverines and bears. As such, this device is returned for conflict with the device of Karl Wilhelm Singer: Per saltire azure and argent, in fess two bears combatant sable. There is only one DC for changing the field.
Marjorie de ffeyrefeld. Badge. Per pale sable and argent.
This device is returned for conflict with the device of Ségnat ingen Donnchada: Per chevron inverted vert and argent. For purpose of conflict checking there is no difference between a per chevron inverted and a chaussé field and so the only DC is for replacing vert by purpure.
Safiya bint Zakariya al-Tayyib. Device. Purpure, a needle palewise threaded, and on a chief Or two mullets of eight points purpure.
Submitted as (Fieldless) A lozenge per pale sable and argent, a lozenge is a form of armorial display and thus this submission must be reblazoned as Per pale sable and argent. This badge conflicts with the device of Ædric the Grene: Per pale sable and vert with only one DC for changing half of the field.
This device is returned for redraw, for violating SENA A2C2 which states "Elements must be drawn to be identifiable." Because of the heavy internal detailing, the thread has little contrast with the field and is not sufficiently identifiable.
West Pends - December LoAR
Catherine de Mailly. Name.
Éua ingen Tuathail. Name.
This name is pended to allow discussion of whether this name conflicts with the registered name Katherine O'Mally. In particular, we would like further discussion on whether the change from O' to de is enough to clear the name under PN3C2 of SENA:The rule creates some ambiguity in this case: one name has an syllable that qualifies under this rule, whereas the other has a syllable that does not qualify under this rule. Either ruling (that this comparison qualifies or not) requires an interpretation of this rule and an additional example within SENA to demonstrate how to apply it.
Names are substantially different if a single syllable between them (excluding articles and prepositions, such as de and the) is changed in both sound and appearance as described here. The addition or removal of a syllable makes two names substantially different in sound. Two names are also substantially different if a syllable is substantially changed in sound and appearance. This means that the vowel and the consonant (or group of consonants) on one side of the vowel is different between the two names. In either case, the change in spelling (including addition or removal of letters) must affect at least two letters in that syllable to be substantial.
Her device is registered under the holding name Catherine of Golden Rivers.
This was item 3 on the West letter of September 24, 2015.
This name is pended to allow a discussion of whether this name conflicts with the registered name Aoife inghean Tuathail.
Her device has been registered under the holding name Éua of Fettburg.
This was item 13 on the West letter of September 24, 2015.
Krysta of Starfall,
Green Crown Pursuivant
SUBMISSONS – February (2016)ITEMS SENT TO LAUREL
Purpure, a needle palewise threaded, and on a chief Or two mullets of eight points purpure.
This device was returned for redraw on the December 2015 LoAR, for violating SENA A2C2 which states "Elements must be drawn to be identifiable." Because of the heavy internal detailing, the thread has little contrast with the field and is not sufficiently identifiable.
We have reduced the black outlining on the thread and resubmitted the drawing.
SUBMISSONS – March (2016)ITEMS SENT TO LAUREL
Will not accept MAJOR changes; Language/culture most important (none noted); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; Authenticity request for 14th-16th century Russian.
Aleksandra – found in Wickenden, “A Dictionary of Period Russian Names” 3rd Ed., p. 4, dated to 1389.
Solov’eva – found in Wickenden, “A Dictionary of Period Russian Names” 3rd Ed., p. 339, SN Solovei. Kuzma Solov’evich c. 1596; zoological byname meaning “nightingale.”
The Russian name formation [given + zoological byname] is found in Wickenden.
Per saltire gules and Or, two Ukrainian trident heads and two martlets counterchanged.
There are eleven registered Ukrainian trident heads.
Vert, on a saltire argent a wolf rampant sable.
Previously submitted armory was returned at Kingdom in November 2014 because the black wolf was “overall” on a green field. Per SENA A.3.B.4.a, the “overall” charge must have good contrast with the field, not the ordinary (in this case, the saltire). The blazon on that submission stated “on” the saltire, which appeared to be clear of conflict. Returned with advice to either reverse the field and saltire colors, or to make the saltire “fatter” and put the wolf entirely on it. In May 2015, Submitter sent another drawing which did neither of these things, and the redrawing submitted still had the black on green problem.
This drawing shows the wolf entirely on the saltire. We believe that this is the best possible body angle of a wolf in the rampant posture on a saltire; in many period rolls, an animate charge drawn on an ordinary becomes skewed by the angles of the ordinary.
Fieldless, a lion’s jambe erased per pale sable and argent grasping a crescent per pale argent and sable.
Fieldless, a panther's jambe erased argent spotted in various tinctures, grasping a flame proper.
Will not accept MAJOR or MINOR changes; Sound most important (none noted); Will allow a holding name; Gender: male; No authenticity request.
Cailin – found in “Names of Scottish Gaels from Scottish Gaelic Sources (Draft Edition)” by Sharon L. Krossa [http://medievalscotland.org/scotnames/gaelicgiven/men/cailin.shtml] which is a 1467 manuscript.
de – Shown in Reaney and Wilson, p. 157. Henry de Erskyn 1225, John de Ireskyn c1280-1290; also in Black, p. 246. Henry de Erskyn 1225, John de Irskyne c1260, John de Ireskin c1280-1290, Johan de Irskyn 1296, John de Herchyn 1359, Robert de Erskyne 1361.
Erskine – Reaney and Wilson, p. 157. Erskine, from the barony of Erskine. Henry de Erskyn 1225, John de Ireskyn c1280-1290, George Erskine or Askine 1666. Black, p. 246. Henry de Erskyn 1225, John de Irskyne c1260, John de Ireskin c1280-1290, Johan de Irskyn 1296, John de Herchyn 1359, Robert de Erskyne 1361, Robert Erschin 1491, Rachel Askine 1643, George Erskine or Askine 1666. Also Erschine 1506, Ersken 1454, Erskye 1368, Erskynn 1530, Ersskyne 1400, Herskyne and Herchine 1359, Hirskyne 1357, Irskine 1361. While none of these is the exact spelling the submitter has selected, there is enough variation in the spelling of this name that his should be considered reasonable for the period.
The Scottish/Gaelic name formation [given + article + locative] is found in SENA Appendix A.
Argent, a wyvern passant vert and on a chief embattled azure three triquetrae argent.
Will not accept MAJOR changes; Language and/or culture most important (none noted); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; Authenticity request for late 13th early 14th century North Britain (language and/or culture and time period).
Caillech – found in “Index of Names in Irish Annals” by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (Kathleen M. O’Brian) [http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Femanine/CailleachDhe.shtml] SN Cailleach Dhe; dated to 1211. The name is given as “Cailleach Dhe” in the article, but given that the same article contains “Cailleach Domnaill” in 1163 and “Cailleach Fhinnein” in 1042, we believe that Cailleach can be used as a stand-alone given name.
inghean – pat. article for Early Modern Irish and Scots Gaelic per SENA
Brain – lenited genitive form of “Bran”, dated to 1110-1364 in “Index of Names in Irish Annals” by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (Kathleen M. O’Brian) [http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Bran.shtml] Submitted as “Bhrain” the genitive form is “Brain” for all periods, so we have dropped the “h”, which is not a major change in our opinion.
The Scottish Gaelic name formation [given + pat. article + patronym] is found in SENA Appendix A.
Purpure, a bend argent between two natural tigers argent marked sable.
This design is in conflict with Felicia Margerye Amondesham (March 2001, West), Purpure, a bend between two hands argent. Changing the secondary charges is one difference, and Felicia has supplied a LoPtC.
Argent, a domestic cat sejant vert, an orle of crescents azure.
Or, three chevronels vert, overall two towers in fess gules.
On the December 2015 LoAR, this badge was returned for redraw, for having abased chevronels where the move is not forced by other elements of the design. Precedent from the LoAR January 1992 states:
"These bendlets are enhanced so much to chief that the style becomes unacceptably modern" [Penelopee of the Quill, R-East, Jan 1992 LoAR]. Further refined in the LoAR November 2002: "The chevron abased here is too far to base to be acceptable without documentation for such a design in period. Overly enhanced ordinaries have been a reason for return for many years as non-period style: "These bendlets are enhanced so much to chief that the style becomes unacceptably modern" (LoAR January 1992). Overly abased ordinaries suffer from the same problem." [Muirgius mac Con Mara hui Ségdai, R-Trimaris, Nov 2002 LoAR]
The chevronels are no longer “abased” and should now be registerable. Since this is a minor adjustment, we have not asked the Shire to send another petition. There was a petition included in the prior submission.
Will not accept MAJOR or MINOR changes; Sound most important (none noted); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; no authenticity request
Fionnghuala – found in “Index of Names in Irish Annals” by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (Kathleen M. O’Brien) [http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Fionnghuala.shtml] dated 1247-1531.
of – locative article required by “SCA placename” rule.
Cynagua – registered name of a principality in the Kingdom of the West (October 1979).
The name formation [given + anglicized locative article + SCA locative byname] is appropriate for names formed using the Branch Name Allowance, as shown in PN1.B.2.f in SENA.
Argent, a domestic cat sejant sable maintaining beneath it’s forepaw a hurt, on a chief enarched azure a rose between two triquetrae argent.
Will not accept MAJOR changes; Language/culture most important (none noted); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; Authenticity request for 13th-14th century Welsh language/culture/time period.
Gwen – found in “A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names” http://heraldry.sca.org/names/welsh13.html by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (Heather Rose Jones).
Seis – found in “A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names” http://heraldry.sca.org/names/welsh13.html by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (Heather Rose Jones).
The Welsh name formation [given + occupational byname] is found in SENA Appendix A, as well as “A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names” http://heraldry.sca.org/names/welsh13.html by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (Heather Rose Jones). We note that occupational bynames are rare for women.
Or, three willow-herb blossoms proper.
We present this emblazon with a stylized willow-herb, and offer a late period description of the willow-herb from Gerard’s Herbal, the original of which is dated December 1597 (pertinent parts of scanned pages 476-477 attached); the drawing that accompanies the description shows a four-petaled blossom with four lesser sepals. The description of the willow-herb states that the petals of the blossom are purple, “having some threads in the middle of a yellow color.” The sepals in the modern willow-herb are a darker color than the petals, but still purple.
Will not accept MAJOR changes; Meaning/Language not marked; Will not allow a holding name; Gender: unmarked; No authenticity request.
Jógrímr - Constructed given name. Showing the use of [Jó-] or [Jǫ] as an initial element: Bassi, p. 12: Jófreiðr, Jófreyr, Jókell, Jǫkull, Jǫrundr, Jósurr; Showing one of the second elements used above with multiple combinations: Bassi, p. 13: Oddkell, Otkell, p. 14: Refkell. Skamkell, p. 15: Úlfkell, p.16: Vékell; Showing the use of [-grimr] as a stand-alone name and as a second element in other names: Bassi, p. 10: Grímr; Bassi, p. 9: Eldgrímr, p. 11: Hallgrímr, Hergrímr, p. 15: Steingrímr, p.16: Þorgrímr, and more examples.
Dýrvésson - Forming a patronymic based on the constructed given name Dýrvér, Bassi, p. 9 shows Dýri as a masculine name, and also two feminine combinations: Dýrfinna, Dýrhildr. Bassi, p15: Vermundr. There are several other combinations ending in [-mundr]; Another example with [Ver-] as the initial element: “Viking Names found in Landnámabók” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html] Verliði Showing the use of [-ver] as a second element: Bassi, p11: Hlǫðvér
According to Bassi, page 17, the correct formation of the patronymic would be [Dyrvesson], where the [-r] ending is replaced with an [s] to form the genitive when [-son] is added.
Sable, a tree blasted and eradicated between six mullets of four points three and three, a bordure embattled argent.
His previous submission, Sable, a tree blasted and eradicated between six mullets of four points three and three argent, was returned in June 2013, when Laurel wrote:
“This device engendered a great deal of discussion regarding the flag of Gondor. One of the blazons for Gondor that we protect is Sable mullety of eight points, a tree blasted, flowered and eradicated and in chief a crown argent. There is a DC for removing the secondary crown, and another DC for the difference in arrangement between semy and effectively three in chief and three in base.
However, this device is returned for conflict with the flag of the Stewards of Gondor, registered elsewhere on this letter as Sable, a tree blasted, flowered and eradicated beneath an arch of seven mullets of eight points argent. There is a DC for the change of arrangement of the mullets, but nothing else.”
This submission includes an embattled bordure, which adds a second DC.
Will accept MAJOR or MINOR changes; No most important marked; Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; No authenticity request.
Melisant - found in “Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames” by Talan Gwynek http://heraldry.sca.org/names/reaneyHZ.html, SN Millicent, dated to 1213.
d’ – French locative article per SENA Appendix A.
Andra - found in “Toponymie generale de la France” vol. 1 (1990) by Ernest Negre, p.230 , SN 3608, Indre, Liore Atl. [https://books.google.com/books?id=rsNpi7IVulEC&pg=PA230&lpg=PA230&dq=toponymie+g%C3%A9n%C3%A9rale+de+la+france,+andra&source=bl&ots=dROoRkp7N9&sig=xFFGvzkFgCPs0i46G59ESwK3G0g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjd 1Ny0mKDLAhVGyGMKHTK3CxoQ6AEIHzAA#v=onepage&q=toponymie%20g%C3%A9n%C3%A9rale%20de%20la%20france%2C%2 0andra&f=false]. [Andra] is listed under SN 3608 [Indra] and is dated to 1144.
This name formation [given + locative article + place] is found in SENA Appendix A for both early modern English and French. English and French may be combined per SENA Appendix C.
Azure, a decrescent argent between three bees argent marked sable, a chief checky sable and argent.
Will accept MAJOR or MINOR changes; Language and/or Culture most important (15th Century Ireland/Gaelic); Will allow a holding name; Gender: male; No authenticity request.
Pól - found 1429, 1483, 1495 in "Index of Names in Irish Annals" by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (Kathleen M. O'Brien) http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Pol.shtml.
mac – patronymic article.
Seáin - genitive of Seán, found 1452, 1459, 1469, 1474, 1486, 1487, 1490, 1492 in "Index of Names in Irish Annals" by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (Kathleen M. O'Brien) http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Sean.shtml.
The Irish Gaelic name formation [given + pat. article + patronym] is found in SENA Appendix A.
Submitter’s forms show “Pol mac Sean.” We have permission from the submitter to submit the genitive form of the patronymic, and an expressed preference for the accented forms.
Per fess argent and Or, in saltire two cat-tail plants proper, in chief three ravens sable.
Name was submitted on the January 2016 Letter of Intent.
Azure, a cubit arm argent grasping an arrow, a chief wavy Or.
Sable, a peacock pavonated to base, in canton a pomegranate Or.
On the October 2015 LoAR, his device was returned (under the name Vittorio Bardasano): Per pale sable and argent, a chess knight affronty between two swords inverted, a bordure embattled counterchanged.
This device is returned for violating SENA A2C1 which states that "Elements must be drawn in their period forms". Part of the definition of the chess knight is to have to heads facing away from each other. In this depiction, it is impossible to determine whether the charge has more than one head. It also cannot be blazoned as a horse's head couped because of the indentation in the "neck"."
This is a complete redesign.
Will not accept MAJOR changes; Sound important: “Is-may” or “Ez-me”; Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; No authenticity request.
Ysmay - found dated to 1227, 1273, 1275 in “Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames: Ismay,” byTalan Gwynek (Brian M. Scott) https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/reaney.cgi?Ismay https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/index_mid6.html.
Pendreth - found dated to 1565 and 1596 in “Surnames in Durham and Northumberland, 1521-1615” by Julie Kahan https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juetta/parish/surnames_pq.html.
The English name formation [given + byname] is found in SENA Appendix A. The name elements are within 500 years, in the same language.
Azure, a rose proper, en soleil Or, a base wavy argent.
Regarding the use of a rose proper en soliel, per the November 2015 LoAR, device registration of Æsa Vthyrmsdottir (West):
"...Its historical use seems to have been limited to Edward IV, which doesn't justify its inclusion on our list of Restricted Charges. Instead, we will now protect it from conflict, in its two historical forms: (Fieldless) A rose argent en soleil Or and (Fieldless) A rose gules en soleil Or."
This submission is clear of Edward IV: fieldless to field azure, and addition of peripheral ordinary.
It is also clear of Paul of Sunriver (registered 1979, reblazoned August 1982, West) Azure, a compass star Or; addition of the rose, and addition of peripheral ordinary.
Will not accept MAJOR changes; Meaning, Language and/or culture most important (none noted); Will allow a holding name; Gender: male; no authenticity request.
Dómari – found in “An Icelandic-English Dictionray,” by Cleasby and Vigfusson, p. b0101 [http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~kurisuto/germanic/oi_cleasbyvigfusson_about.html] meaning “a judge”. In Bassi, p. 9 we find “Dómarr.” We cannot find “Dómari” used as a name.
Grimmrson - “Grimmr” is found in Cleasby and Vigfusson, p. b0215 as an adjective; however, that doesn’t document it as a name. The name Grímr can be found in Bassi, p. 10. We do not find “Grimmr” with two “m’s” in Bassi.
In Bassi, p. 17, we find the correct formation of the patronymic from [Grímr] is [Grímsson].
Sable, a tree blasted and eradicated and on a chief rayonny argent three crescents gules.
The device suffers from several minor problems that mean that it must be returned. The chief is not wide enough - it should be at least a quarter of the field in width. The crescents have been "squished" due to the thin chief. The arcs that define the edges of the crescents should be circular. Lastly there should be many fewer and deeper rays on the rayonny. Returned for redrawing and to make sure the changes to the name elements are acceptable to the submitter. Device appears to be clear of conflict.
Will not accept MAJOR or MINOR changes; Meaning/Language most important (horseman/knight in Italian); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; Authenticity request for “16th Century Italy, either Rome & Venice”.
Will also accept “Isabella de Cavallieri”.
Isabella - found in “Names from 16th Century Venice” by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith), https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/16thcvenice.html.
de – occupational article.
Cavalieri - found in “Surnames from a 16th Century Italian Armorial” by Coblaith Muimnech http://www.coblaith.net/Names/ItSur/CAV.html. The spelling [Cavalieri] is listed in “Late Period Italian Women's Names: Florence” by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith) [http://medievalscotland.org/jes/Nuns/Florence.shtml].
The Italian name formation [given + byname] is found in SENA Appendix A. The sources cited do not show the article used with this particular spelling of the byname.
PN.4.B.1 of SENA states: “Names may not contain an element or group of elements that create the appearance of a claim to have a specific protected rank or title that the submitter does not possess within the Society, even if that name element or elements are attested. Those titles which are so protected can be found in the List of Alternate Titles. Bynames which are identical to titles used in the Society are generally not allowed for individuals who do not have that rank. Relatively minor changes to the form of the byname can remove the appearance of a claim to rank.”
The List of Alternate Titles, http://heraldry.sca.org/titles.html#table1 shows “Cavaliere” as the Italian alternate title for “Knight” which makes this name “Isabelle the Knight”; we can forward either spelling WITHOUT the “de” under SENA PN.4.B.1, but including the article is a claim to Knighthood. In the alternative, if the submitter can document an occupational/descriptive byname that just means “horseman” or “horse rider” but doesn’t ALSO mean Knight, it would be fine to include the “de.”
Per pale wavy azure and vert, a seahorse argent and a horse Or combatant, in base a rose argent.
If the horses are meant to be in chief as drawn, the rose needs to be MUCH bigger. Unfortunately this would then be "slot machine heraldry" with three different charges in a single group. If they are meant to be the primary charges with a secondary rose, they need to be drawn so that they are closer to being centered vertically on the field. The submitter will be encouraged to draw the wavy more regularly as well.
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