Minutes of the July, 2016 Heralds Meeting

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(11:15 am to 3:00 pm)

The meeting was held at the Green Crown's home. The next two meetings will be held at Green Crown’s home (564 Broadmoor Blvd., San Leandro, CA 94577; email greencrownwest@yahoo.com for directions).


Aasa Thorvaldsdottir, Compline; Krysta of Starfall, Green Crown; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Anne FitzRichard, Banner (acting); Aine inghen Tuathail, Greencloak; Kean de Lacy, Black Mark; Angus Duncan Cameron, PE for Cloondara; Safiya bint Zakariya al’Tayyib, Cornet for Champclair; Teagen of Hawks Haven, Cornet for Hawks Haven; Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym, PaL/Archivist; Edith of Swanesdale, PaL; Hannah Story Teller, PEaL, Faun Woods, Lucius Cassius Maris, Carrek MacBrian, Lester Van Buren III - Cornets.

We started the meeting with a round of introductions and job descriptions around the room to help the 6 (SIX!) new heralds attending the meeting to acclimate.

Heralds’ Meetings for 2016: September 18, November 20, January 8, 2017 (at 12th Night in Reno). Meetings begin at 11AM, with walk-in processing no later than 10:30AM. “Road show” meetings, if any, will be announced well in advance.

The DEADLINES for submission forms and documentation are: September 7; November 9; December 20. Submission forms must be complete, and received either via EMAIL or hardcopy by the deadline date at midnight to be considered at the next meeting (which is about 11 days later, except for June/July due to West-AnTir War). If the forms are EMAILED, then payment must arrive by the meeting day. WALK-IN submissions will only be considered if there is time, but in most cases will be delayed until the next meeting so that each submission can be reviewed fully.

Walk-in submissions may be held over until the following meeting at the discretion of Matins.


Vesper: Vesper is not here, Vesper is traveling

Compline: Still learning the ins and outs of what she is going to need to do as Vesper. Has sent Vesper the report on what he needs from her. When Vesper gets back, there will be more training. Has had training session on how to punch Oscar in the face. Currently is on schedule to take over Vesper by October Crown.

Seawolf: Not present, no report

Sable Swan: Not present, no report

Stellanordica: Not present, no report

Exchequer: Not present, no report

Matins (vacant, Green Crown reporting for this position): Submissions are being processed. Submitters still don’t understand the paperwork directions.

Green Crown: Training for the submissions process is happening. Still attending Wreath meetings. Intent to apply for Wreath when it comes up next.

Banner: Just stepped up. Courts are happening. Court reports are coming in.

Baldric: Vacant. West Kingdom Herald’s handbook is out of date. Need a project to update the herald’s handbook. Lucius and Aine to take on reviewing current Herald’s handbook articles, updating pertinent ones, and checking to see which need complete replacement. After update, a review to see where there are holes will be needed (senior staff task).

Brachet: Is commenting on External letters of Intent from other kingdoms in OSCAR regularly. Gwenhwyfaer is thinking about starting a commenting meeting in Cynagua, late fall – winter time frame. She will coordinate with Brachet.

Greencloak: Now Aine. West/An Tir happened. We had some issues with volunteers. Duty shouts happened and we are expecting to have heraldic games at 2017 An Tir/West.

Latimer: not present - backup - books are with Green Crown and will remain there until after Oct Crown, as both Latimer and backup will be travelling and not in attendance. Consulting is happening at kingdom events, March Crown was busy. We need a volunteer to run Table for Oct Crown.

Golem: Working with Kingdom Web Minister to get email forwarding issues taken care of (title@heralds.westkingdom.org email addresses), there are some issues with getting the passwords to the new Web Minister from Kingdom IT so he can get things updated. Court reports coming in, awards database doing well. Website, hasn’t heard a lot from people -- are there things that could be better? Input helps. People are asking on various social media "When's the next heralds meeting?" This is always on the herald’s website -- please look at the herald's website before asking elsewhere.

Archivist (Gwenhwyfaer): Is being responsive to bringing things when asked for.

ANNOUNCEMENTS / Other Business

Laurel requires now 0 (zero) paper submissions – we need only one copy and Matins doesn’t mail anything to Laurel, just sends scans. Effective immediately we will only require from submitters:

Name submission: one copy and documentation
Device submission: one line drawing, one colored drawing, with documentation if needed
Badge submission: one line drawing, one colored drawing, documentation as needed
Money: $10 for name+device or name+badge, $6 for individual submissions.

Colored submissions are still required to be hand colored using markers, not crayons or pencils, and must be colored with “quality markers” so colors don’t change; we encourage the use of Crayola Classic markers. If the submission is not colored in true colors, the College is required to send it back.



MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Vesper at herald@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds' website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm.

The office of Brachet Herald was filled as of the September meeting; no commenting meetings are being held, but Brachet is brainstorming to try to do e-meetings. More news soon.


The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.

March 2016 LoAR (printed May 28, 2016) (West December, 2015 LOI)

Cover Letter

From Laurel: Submissions Fees Changing

Greetings Unto the College of Arms!

Effective as of the October Letters of Intent, we will be increasing the Laurel submissions fees by 1 dollar to $4 USD. This increase is intended to cover the additional server storage space we will incur as a result of the completion of the archive project. Up to this point, the Sovereigns and certain Laurel staff have been keeping current data by either mailing hard disks, or meeting up in physical locations to transfer data. With the increasing size of the archives, this has become impractical. Pending approval from the Board of Directors we will have increased storage space on SCA.org which will allow us to place the archives on the server for secured access to those who have need. Additionally, a long term project is planned to redact each emblazon from its form so that heralds and submitters can have on-demand access to registered emblazons without having to await a redaction.

The College of Arms spends its finances through expenses related to submissions processing, staff and sovereign travel, equipment purchases, and miscellaneous office related costs. Laurel or the Laurel Exchequer can always provide a break-down of expenses upon request to any member. There has been a great deal of conversation on social media outlets about 'Where does the money go?' Staff will be working to be more transparent about this. Some of you will already be aware, but many will not, that the College of Arms routinely experiences a net loss at the end of every year. Some years the loss is small, some large. Often we have a net loss of about $1000-$2000 USD. With the ever increasing cost of travel, and the upcoming additional storage space costs, we cannot continue to charge the current $3 processing fee and remain at the current level of net loss. It is the desire of the Sovereigns and Staff to continue to serve the Society in the best way possible and to be able to continue to put a Sovereign or staff member in any kingdom as required or requested. Without the fee increase it will become increasingly difficult to do so.

Principal Heralds have already been informed of the increase and may increase or keep their current fee structure according to the needs of their individual colleges. Over the course of the history of the CoA, the processing fee has fluctuated back and forth between 3 and 4 dollars as the needs of the College dictated. We will be available for any questions on the matter and hope to have more good news about the archives as the project finishes its final stages.

From Laurel: KWHSS 2017 Announced!

In Court and at the Roadshow for KWHSS 2016, Laurel announced that the 2017 Known World Heraldic & Scribal Symposium would be held in the Kingdom of Meridies, in the Barony of Thor's Mountain (Knoxville, TN) in conjunction with the Shire of Nant-Y-Derwyddon on June 23-25, 2017.

From Wreath: Color Form in OSCAR

This month a submission was returned for using a photograph of the submitted design for the mini-emblazons in OSCAR. The Administrative Handbook states "The colored copy must be a scan of the original." To keep up with the progress of technology, we want to make clear that images don't really need to come from a scanner, but they must be an unaltered digital representation of the actual paperwork, created by optical imaging.

From Wreath: A Short Note about Documentation

A submission came this month for which the only "documentation" given on the Letter of Intent was a link to a Facebook discussion. This is not appropriate. Documentation in armory also should be summarized with a description of the information and its source. Had the commenters not provided actual documentation, the submitted device would have been returned.

West Acceptances - March LoAR

Eibhilín inghean Uí Mhartain. Device. Purpure, a wolf's head erased contourny and in chief two triquetras argent.

Golden Playne, Canton of. Device. Vert, a five-headed naga glissant contourny Or within a laurel wreath argent.

This is the defining instance of a naga in Society heraldry. The naga is a multi-headed serpent, similar to a hydra. It was described in the 16th Century by Portuguese Jesuit priests who visited what is now Thailand. As a non-European charge, it carries a step from period practice.

Khalidah bint Sa'id al-`Attar. Device. Or, a scorpion bendwise sinister sable mullety argent.

Michiele l'encriere. Device. Per fess wavy argent and sable all goutty counterchanged.

Theodericus Sturmere. Device. Azure, a unicorn Or charged on the shoulder with a fleur-de-lys sable.

West Returns - March LoAR


April 2016 LoAR (printed June 15, 2016) (West Jan 24, 2016 LOI)

Cover Letter

Nothing of note ...

West Acceptances - April LoAR

Aaliz de Saint-Joseph. Device. Argent, a tree eradicated proper fructed Or between in chief two mullets purpure.

The submitter has permission to conflict with the device of Dougal MacPherson the Tall: Argent, a tree blasted and eradicated per fess vert and sable.

Alienor Fitzhenry. Reblazon of device. Vert, two bendlets sinister wavy and in base three New World dogwood flowers in bend sinister argent.

Registered in July of 2005 as Vert, two bendlets sinister wavy and in base three dogwood flowers in bend sinister argent, the default dogwood has been declared to be the European version.

Brigid of Bethanie. Reblazon of device. Per bend sinister Or and vert, a New World dogwood flower argent tipped gules fimbriated sable and a mourning dove close to sinister argent.

Reblazoned in December 1985 as Per bend sinister Or and vert, a dogwood flower argent tipped gules fimbriated sable, and a mourning dove close to sinister argent, the default dogwood has been declared to be the European version.

Caitilin Cameron of Wick. Name.

Wick is a lingua Anglica form of the attested place name Weik.

This name combines a Gaelic given name and two Scots bynames. This is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA.

Elisheva bint Sitt al-Sirr. Badge. (Fieldless) On a raven contourny sable a rose Or.

Fearghus mac Gyllfynnan. Name and device. Gules, a bend and in sinister canton a Maltese cross argent.

Submitted as Fearghus MacGylifynnan, the submitter requested authenticity for 14th-15th century Irish Gaelic. The name was changed in kingdom to Fearghus mac Gyllfynnan to match the documentation that could be found.

This name does not meet the submitter's request for an authentic 14th-15th century Gaelic name because it combines the Gaelic Fearghus with the Anglicized Irish mac Gyllfynnan, but it is registerable.

An entirely Early Modern Gaelic form is Fearghus (or Fergus) Mac Giolla Fhionnáin. Forms of the given name are dated to the 15th and 16th centuries in Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, "Index of Names in Irish Annals" (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/). The byname Mac Giolla Fhionnáin is a standard Gaelic form that corresponds to the Anglicized Irish forms Gyllfynnan, dated to the 14th century, and M'Gullyneane, dated to the late 16th or early 17th century. These forms are found in "Names and Naming Practices in the Red Book of Ormond (Ireland 14th Century)" by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/lateirish/ormond-given.html) and in Woulfe, s.n. Mac Giolla Fhionnáin, respectively. Therefore, the entirely Gaelic form is probably authentic for the 15th and 16th centuries.

An entirely Anglicized Irish form is Fergus mac Gyllfynnan. Fergus is found in 1600 in Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada's article "Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents" (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Masculine.shtml) and mac Gyllfynnan was documented to the 14th century in the Letter of Intent. Fergus MacGullyneane, using the byname found in Woulfe (with the scribal abbreviation expanded) is also registerable as an authentic Anglicized Irish form from c1600.

If the submitter prefers one of the entirely Gaelic or Anglicized Irish forms, he can submit a request for reconsideration.

Fella-Bjorn Gunnarsson. Name and device. Or, a bear rampant contourny per fess gules and azure maintaining a valknut azure, a chief sable.

Submitted as Fellbjorn Gunnarsson, Fell(a) is a prepended locative byname, not a prototheme. Therefore, we have changed this to Fella-Bjorn to register this name.

There is a step from period practice for the use of a valknut.

Fionnghuala inghean Raghnaill. Name.

Submitted as Fionnghuala inghean Ragnaill, the byname combines the Early Modern Irish Gaelic inghean and the Middle Irish Gaelic Ragnaill in the same name phrase. This violates PN1B1 of SENA, which does not allow languages to be mixed in the same name phrase unless this can be documented. Although the submission form stated that the submitter did not allow changes, she confirmed that this was an error, and allowed a change to the wholly Early Modern Irish inghean Raghnaill. We have made this change to register this name.

The submitter requested authenticity for a 14th to 15th century Gaelic name. This request was not summarized in the Letter of Intent. Luckily for the submitter, we had enough information to evaluate this request instead of pending the name for further commentary. This name is authentic for the 15th century, meeting the submitter's request.

Hans Shaffer. Device. Per chevron throughout sable and vert, two ravens respectant and a three headed dog rampant contourny argent.

Jakobus Rahl. Name.

Submitted as Kobus Rahl, the submitter requested authenticity for "Germanic". We were unable to document Kobus prior to 1650. Therefore, we have changed the given name to Jakobus with the submitter's permission.

Jakobus is found in Switzerland in the FamilySearch Historical Records, dated between 1560 and 1577. Rahl is found in Brechenmacher dated to c.1525. Therefore, this name appears to be authentic for Germany in the 16th century.

James of Winter's Gate. Name and device. Azure, an open book bendwise and in chief two crescents pendant argent.

Winter's Gate is the registered name of an SCA branch.

Josquin du Bois Vert. Reblazon of device. Or, three leaves conjoined in pall inverted vert charged with a New World dogwood blossom argent seeded Or.

When registered March 1975, this was blazoned Or, a dogwood blossom [Cornus florida] upon a whorl of three of its leaves, proper. The term whorl is not a defined blazon term. As drawn, the flower is a tertiary charge, entirely on the leaves. We have reblazoned the device to reflect these facts, as well as the fact that the dogwood blossom is not the default European variant.

Kagami Tomoko. Name.

Both the surname Kagami and given name Tomoko are dated to 1183, making this an excellent 12th century Japanese name!

Seán Ó Floinn of the Mists. Name.

The submitter requested authenticity for an unspecified place and time. Seán Ó Floinn is authentic for Ireland in the 16th century, but the addition of the branch name of the Mists makes the name as a whole inauthentic.

Úlfar inn svarti Þórisson and Kolskeggr skialdarbriótr fra Einkunnir. Joint badge. Per saltire vert and azure, a saltire argent and a bordure Or.

West Returns - April LoAR


In Service,
Krysta of Starfall,
Green Crown Pursuivant

SUBMISSONS – July (2016)

Angelo Sidoti (CHANGE of primary device; retain old device as badge SENT to Laurel)

Registered Name: Úlfarr veiðimaðr Eysteinsson (name change in process)

Per pale azure and sable, a stag’s head erased and in chief a pair of attires fesswise argent.

His old device, Or, an orca urinant proper and in chief two ducks rising addorsed wings displayed vert is to be retained as a badge.

No conflicts found.

Arthur Baynbridge (NEW Name and Device SENT to Laurel)

Will not accept MAJOR changes; Language/culture most important (none noted); Will allow a holding name; Gender: unmarked; No Authenticity request

Arthur – found in Withycombe pp 32-33. Usually spelled [Artur] until the 16th century, when [Arthur] and other variations with an [h] became usual.

Baynbridge –Found on p. 123 in “Dictionary of Tudor London Names” by Sara L. Uckelman/Aryanhwy merch Catmael http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/english/tudorlondon.pdf, dated to 1541. Reaney & Wilson p. 24 under header [Bainbridge] Matilde de Baiynbrigg 1301, Robert Baynbrygg 1379. Ekwall, p. 23, under the header [Bain], Bainebrigg 1215.

The English name formation [given + locative byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Azure, on a chevron argent three crosses fleury sable, in base a chalice argent.

No conflicts found. The chevron could be a little lower (by making it narrower) and the crosses a bit smaller as a result. The crosses should also be better distributed on the chevron (the outside crosses are a little close to the center cross).

Ástriðr Þórudóttir ({A'}stri{dh}r {Th}{o'}rud{o'}ttir) (NEW Name and Device SENT to Laurel)

Will accept changes; Nothing marked in most important; Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; No Authenticity request.

Name submitted on form: Ástriðr Þóradóttir

Ástriðr – found in “Viking Names found in Landnamabok” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L, Uckleman), [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html].

Þórudóttir – Þóra is found in Viking Names found in Landnamabok by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L, Uckleman). In A Simple Guide to Creating Old Norse Names we find the metronymic byname formation: Þóra is found in Bassi on page 16. The formation of metronymic is discussed in Bassi on page 18, and using Þóra is one of the examples. The correct formation is Þórudóttir, with the [-a] changing to a [-u-] in the genitive. We have changed the byname to match the documentation found.

Per bend sinister argent and Or, a phoenix vert rising from flames gules.

No conflict found.

Bietrix Chat-Blanc (NEW Name and Device SENT to Laurel)

Will accept changes; No boxes marked re. most important; Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; No Authenticity request; form marked as “change of holding name” but (1) “Theodocia Cook” is not in the [given+of+SCA locative byname] pattern for holding names; (2) there is no record of the name “Theodocia” EVER being registered by the SCA CoA. Since submitter did not supply any reference dates, and DID pay the full name and device fee, we believe that this is a case of “name on the membership card” being understood by the submitter to be the “holding name.” We therefore believe this name submission to be, in fact, a new, primary name submission.

Bietrix – Found in “An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris” by Lord Colm Dubh ©1996, 2005 Scott Catledge at [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/paris.html]; also found in “Draft: Names in the 1292 census of Paris” by Sara Uckelmann [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/1292paris.pdf], p. 7.

Chat-Blanc – found in “Draft: Names in the 1292 census of Paris” by Sara Uckelmann [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/1292paris.pdf]. [Chat-Blanc] is found on page 123. and is listed as a descriptive byname.

The French name formation [given + descriptive byname] is found in “Draft: Names in the 1292 census of Paris” (Uckelman, 2013).

Argent, a cat rampant contourney sable and a chief vert.

No conflict found.

Eleanor ate Walter de Liverpoole (NEW Device SENT to Laurel)

Argent, two paw prints in bend and a chief sable.

There is a Step From Period Practice for the use of paw prints. Device appears to be clear of conflict.

Ellisif Gyðadottir (Ellisif Gy{dh}adottir) (NEW Name and Device SENT to Laurel)

Will not accept Major changes; Language and/or culture most important (Norse/Varangian Guard/Rus); Will allow a holding name; Gender: none noted; No Authenticity request.

Ellisif – found on Bassi, p. 9.

Gyðadottir - Gyði is found (in the normalized OW.Norse form per Viking Answer Lady) in the 911 treaty noted in The Varangians of Byzantium by Sigfús Blöndal, London: Cambridge. 1978. p. 36. The patronymic formation (–i to –a and add –dottir) is found in “A Simple Guide to Creating Old Norse Names” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/sg-viking.html]. Submitter and the West Kingdom College of Heralds would appreciate the assistance of the College of Arms in documenting the correct (eastern) form of Gyði- if the submitted form cannot be registered.

Alternately, submitter will accept Gyrðsdottir: Gyrðr is found in Bassi, p. 10; The patronymic formation (–r to –s and add –dottir) is found in “A Simple Guide to Creating Old Norse Names” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/sg-viking.html].

Either way, the Old Norse name formation [given + patronymic] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Per chevron gules and azure, a Simurgh rising to sinister wings displayed argent.

There is a Step From Period Practice for the use of a simurgh. No conflict found.

Eveline Potter (NEW Name and Device SENT to Laurel)

Will accept changes; Sound most important (would prefer given name to sound vaguely like “Evelyn”); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; No Authenticity request.

Eveline – found in Withycombe, p. 113 SN Evalina; and is a variation of Aveline, which, with its variants, was common in the 12th and 13th centuries. Aveline was in use until the 17th century.

Potter – R&W p. 359, SN Potter; Seuard le potter 1172, Geoffrey Poter 1196

The English name formation [given + occupational byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Gules a chameleon passant argent.

We believe this to be clear of Kára Agnarsdóttir (device registered June 2015 An Tir): Gules, in pale a natural salamander statant regardant queue-forchy and a key inverted argent. We count 1 CD for the change in number of charges in the primary group (one to two) and 1 CD for the change of type of half of the charges (the key is not a lizard). The regardant head position and split-tail on Kara's lizard, while not “counting for difference” make it very visually different from Eveline's chameleon.

Farleigh de Grey (RESUB Device SENT to Laurel, Name registered Feb. 2015)

Per chevron azure and argent, two thistles argent and a griffin sergeant gules, a bordure counterchanged argent and sable.

Her previous submission was returned on the February 2015 LoAR:

Per chevron azure and argent, two thistles argent and a griffin segreant maintaining a tankard gules within a bordure counterchanged argent and sable. This device is returned for redraw, for violating SENA A2C2 which states "Elements must be drawn to be identifiable." Many commenters saw the griffin as headless and confused the tankard for a book. On redesign, please advise the submitter to draw the thistle with less internal detailing and/or larger so they are easier to identify on the blue background.

The device has been redesigned and redrawn for better identifiability. No conflict found.

Faun Woods (NEW Name, Device, and Badge SENT to Laurel)

Will accept changes; Sound most important (none noted); Will allow a holding name; Gender: don’t care; No Authenticity request.

Faun – English surname documented to 1576 at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9685717; late period English surnames may be used as given names (Alton of Grimfells). Also Reaney & Wilson p. 164 under the header Faun. William filius Faun' [the apostrophe is included with the name] 1230, Robert Faun, 1390. R&W state that Faun was also used as a personal name, but give no date other than that for the first citation shown above.

Woods – R&W p. 499, list Woods as part of the header for Wood, but give no actual citations for this spelling. All of their citations are without the "s". Surnames in Durham and Northumberland, 1521-1615, by Julie Kahan, at [https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juetta/parish/surnames_wy.html] has the spelling [Woodes]; Also FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NX9X-C88 : 30 December 2014), "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975" database, Elizabeth Woods, 15 May 1558; citing Kendal, Westmoreland, England, reference item 21; FHL microfilm 1,471,684, Batch No. C00311-7.

The English name formation [given + byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Per pale argent and vert, a panpipe attired counterchanged.

No conflict found

BADGE: (Fieldless) A panpipe vert attired argent.

No conflict found

Hannah Story Teller (NEW Badge, NEW Badge sent to Laurel; Name registered Dec. 2013)

Badge 1: (Fieldless) A hound sejant argent maintaining in his mouth an open scroll Or.

No conflict found.

Badge 2: (Fieldless) An open scroll per fess embattled sable and argent masoned sable.

No conflict found.

James Kristof (RESUB to Kingdom Name and Device SENT to Laurel)

Will accept changes; Sound most important (byname kris-tof); Will allow a holding name; Gender: male; No Authenticity request.

James – Submitter’s modern given name, considered neutral in time and place due to the legal name allowance SENA PN1.B.2.e. (Redacted state-issued identification attached; unredacted in Laurel’s packet)

Kristof – We find “Kristoff” in “German Names from Nurnberg, 1497” http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/nurnberg1497.html; The spelling “Cristof” is dated to 1454 in “Medieval German Given Names from Silesia” https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/bahlow/ by Talan Gwynek (Brian M. Scott). We find the “C-” to “K-” swap, and/or the “-ff” to “-f” to be reasonable.

The German name formation [given + unmarked patronymic byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Per pale azure and argent, a bear’s head affronty erased counterchanged, a bordure sable mulletty of four points Or.

No conflict found.

Jason Esfenn fitz-Rolf (NEW Name and Device SENT to Laurel)

Will accept changes; No “most important” marked; Will allow a holding name; Gender: male; No Authenticity.

Jason – Submitter’s modern given name (docs in Laurel’s packet); also found in FamilySearch: Jason Fosbrooke christening date 1570; "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch [https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NYPV-B7Q : 30 December 2014; citing SAINT LEONARDS,BRIDGNORTH,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND, reference; FHL microfilm 502,913, 510,655; Batch No. C08582-1.

Esfenn – This is a SCA branch name (registered March 1992); however, per the current Branch Name Allowance (SENA PN.1.B.2.f) the submitter would be required to add the lingua Anglica locative article “of” which he absolutely refuses.

So, we would request that this rule be changed, to allow UNMARKED or ADJECTIVAL locative bynames to be formed from registered SCA placenames. Unmarked locatives or adjectival forms are common in many language groups across our period (see SENA Appendix A); we believe that the language of the place name should inform the manner of locative use, rather than a blanket “lingua Anglica” rule. This would make the flavor of SCA locatives flow better in name formation and usage. We believe the “of” should still always be used by Laurel when creating a holding name (to encourage the submitter to replace the holding name with a more appropriate name).

If the SENA change being requested above is not considered, we present the following to document the locative “Esfenn” as a constructed name-phrase per SENA PN1.B.2.b.4. In Ekwall on p. 169 we find that what is now [Eshton] was [Estune] in the Domesday Book and [Eston] in 1207, from the Old English Aesc-tun = ash-tun where “tun” means homestead, village, town. Most of the placenames derived from the ash tree have [Esh-] or [Esk-], but [Eston] shows that just the [Es-] is plausible.

[Fen-] and [-fen] as name elements all mean “fen”. Ekwall only shows one of the easily found variants spelled with a double “n,” on page 178 under the header [Fenby]. There we find [Fenneby] in 1262, as a variant spelling of the place name meaning “BY at the fens”. There is a similar form under the header [Edvin] on page 161.

McKinley, in The Surnames of Sussex, page 183, includes [Fenn] in a list of topographical surnames that “were all widespread in Sussex from an early date”, with no dated spellings. In The Surnames of Oxfordshire, on page 50, in a discussion of the pluralization of some locatives in surnames, McKinley mentions [Fennes] as the plural form of [Fen], dated to the 14th century. Another name with a double consonant preceding the plural ending is [Brigges]. According to Ekwall the original, non-plural form would have been [Brigg] [1297] [page 197, under the header Glandford].

So “Esfen” is a plausible period construction, and “Esfenne” probably is also, and the information from The Surnames of Oxfordshire may be sufficient to support “Esfenn”.

Latimer is personally not inclined to go through Ekwall line by line and see if there’s a dated placename buried in there that is a “-fen” variant with a double “n” and no following “e, but if it is absolutely essential that someone do this, she will. It won’t be a fast process, though.

fitz-Rolf – see “Grandfather clause” SENA PN.1.B.2.g – submitter is married to Gwyneth fitz-Rolf (registered February 1975) and is the son-in-law of Morrigan Fitz-Rolf, who has “House FitzRolf” as a registered household name (registered February 1975), thereby establishing it as a “clan byname.” Submitter’s relationship as stated is attested by Green Crown and Compline. The form submitted here is identical to the form registered to Jason’s wife; he would also accept “FitzRolf” as registered to his mother-in-law.

The given name and locative are both documentable to the English/Welsh 1100-1600 language group (SENA Appendix C). The patronymic/clan byname formation “FitzX” is also documentable to Middle/Early Modern English (SENA Appendix A). We were unable to document the name formation [given + locative byname + clan patronymic byname], although the given name can be considered neutral (legal name allowance SENA PN1.B.2.e) and SENA PN.1.B.2.g may also cause the “clan identifier” to be considered neutral. We would appreciate any help the College can give. The only completely UNACCEPTABLE change would be to make his name “Jason of Esfenn.” He strongly desires the unmarked locative.

Sable, a goblet within a stag’s massacre and a base argent.

No conflict found.

Jitka Pavlova (NEW Name and Device SENT to Laurel)

Will not accept Major changes; Sound/Language/Culture most important (none noted); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; No authenticity request.

Jitka – found in Wickenden p. 122, SN Itka; dated 1461

Pavlova – found in Wickenden; Zhina Pavlova dated to 1498

The Russian name formation [given + patronymic byname] is found in Wickenden (see above).

Per pale Or and azure, three calamarie counterchanged.

No conflict found

Jón inn stórhǫggvi (J{o'}n inn st{o'}rh{o,}ggvi (NEW Name and Device SENT to Laurel)

Will accept changes; Language/culture most important (Norse/Varangian Guard/Rus); Will allow a holding name; Gender: not marked; No Authenticity request.

Jón – Found in Bassi, p. 12 SN Jón.

inn stórhǫggvi – Found in Viking Bynames found in the Landnámabók by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/vikbynames.html meaning “great-slasher.”

The Old Norse name formation [given + descriptive byname] is found in SENA Appendix A.

Gules, a double-bitted axe and in chief three dice Or spotted sable.

No conflict found

Juan Alvaro Sanchez Erasmo (NEW Name and Device sent to Laurel)

Will accept changes; Spelling most important (acronym “J.A.C.E.”); Will allow a holding name; Gender: not marked; Authenticity request for language and/or culture 16th century Spanish.

Juan – 16th Century Spanish Names, by Elsbeth Anne Roth (Kathy Van Stone) at [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/spanish/male-given-alpha.html], Five examples of Juan, dated from 1539 to 1578.

Alvaro – 16th Century Spanish Names, by Elsbeth Anne Roth (Kathy Van Stone) at [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/spanish/male-given-alpha.html], Four examples of Alvaro, dated from 1560 to 1574.

Sanchez – 16th Century Spanish Names, by Elsbeth Anne Roth (Kathy Van Stone) at [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/spanish/male-given-alpha.html], under [Sancho]. Sancho Sánchez de Muñon, 1560. In the same article, on the page about patronymic bynames at [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/spanish/patro-freq.html], [Sanchez] is listed as having 105 occurrences in the sources.

Erasmo – Tibon, pp. 166-167 shows Erasmo, undated, with a discussion of the saint and the confounding of Saint Erasmus with San Pedro Gonzalez Telmo. Telmo as a second surname here indicates that the second surname does not necessarily have to be in the genitive form. Erasmo seams to have the descriptive meaning “beloved", based on Saint Erasmus (aka St. Elmo). Also referenced in St. Gabriel Report 1998, for research on a German name.

SENA Appendix A shows that in Castilian, double given names are allowed in late period, and combined with [given + patronymic + descriptive] to form this name as: [given + given + patronymic + descriptive]. We would appreciate additional help from the College of Arms in documenting the usage of “Erasmo” as a descriptive here, or finding a name pattern that will allow this name to be registered as submitted.

Sable, a fox rampant argent and in chief four lozenges Or.

No conflicts found.

Morwenna Wild (NEW Name and Device SENT to Laurel)

Will not accept Major changes; Sound most important (none noted); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; No Authenticity request.

Morwenna – found in Withycombe, p. 223; Cornish saint mentioned by William of Worcester begun under Vitae Sancti Neetani. Welsh genealogical tracts p. 29, 14th Century as Morewenna.

Wild – Morgan and Morgan, p. 115, under Gwyllt. Howello Wild cited from Merioneth subsidy roll 1292-3. "Wales Marriages, 1541-1900," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGWK-CXW : 5 December 2014), William Wyld and Katterne Griffith, 16 Nov 1619; citing Holt, Denbigh, Wales, reference 2:3ZVLBC8; FHL microfilm 1,655,830. Batch No. M39637-4; The spelling "Wild" is also found in FamilySearch from England, dating from at least a burial in 1580 (Rose Wild, Batch No. B00047-6) "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JC9D-BZP : 24 December 2014), William Wild in entry for Rose Wild, 21 Jan 1580; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 370,925.

The Anglicized Welsh name formation [given + byname] is found in the FamilySearch record noted above (William Wyld).

Azure, a sea lion and on a chief argent three ships azure.

No conflicts found.

Rys Kynith (RESUB Name to Kingdom SENT to Laurel)

Will not accept Major changes; Sound most important (none noted); Will allow a holding name; Gender: male; No Authenticity request.

Ryshttp://heatherrosejones.com/names/welsh/simple13thmerioneth.html shows Rhys, Reys, Reis, and Res. This specific spelling can be found in “The Subsidy of 1292” by Francis Jones, Bulletin Board of Celtic Studies 13:210-230, and also Saint Gabriel Report #2987 http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?2987+0 dates the spelling from 1200 to 1600.

Kynithhttp://heatherrosejones.com/names/welsh/simple13thmerioneth.html shows the occupational byname for Huntsman as Cynydd, Kennith, Kenith, and Kynith.

The Welsh name formation [given + occupational byname] is found in http://heatherrosejones.com/names/welsh/simple13thmerioneth.html.

This name was returned at Kingdom in November 2009 for conflict with Rhys ap Cynan (registered January 1995). Under the RfS in place at that time, there was not enough difference between the names. However, under SENA we have two changes: the second syllable of the byname (-nan) to (-nith) and the REQUIRED removal of the patronymic article. Cynan is a given name, so the patronymic article “ap” is appropriate; Kynith is an occupational byname and would NEVER have the patronymic article.


Éua Hundardóttir ({E'}ua Hundard{o'}ttir) (Change of Holding Name – May 2016 LoAR)

Name submitted on form - Éua Hundsdóttir

Holding Name – Éua of Fettburg

Will accept changes; Language/culture most important (10th C. Scottish/Norse); Will allow a holding name; Gender: female; No Authenticity request

Éua – Found in “A Simple Guide to Constructing 12th Century Scottish Gaelic Names” by Sharon L. Krossa [heraldry.sca.org/names/simplescotgaelicnames12.htm].

Hundardóttir – Hundr- is found in “Scandinavian Personal Names in Lincolnshire and Yorkshire,” by Gillian Fellows-Jensen, page 144. The patronymic formation –dottir is found in “A Simple Guide to Creating Old Norse Names” by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman) [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/sg-viking.html]. According to Bassi, page 17, men's names ending in [-undr] form the genitive by adding [-ar]. So the correct patronymic form for [Hundr] would be [Hundardóttir]. We have changed the byname to match the documented patronymic byname formation.

The name formation [given + patronymic byname] is found in SENA Appendix A, for both Old Norse and Scottish prior to 1100. The Scandinavian name group and Scottish are only compatible prior to 1100 per SENA Appendix C. Éua does not appear to be documentable prior to 1100 in either Scotland or Ireland. The article provided by the submitter dates the name to 1130-50, while the earliest instance in the “Index of Names in Irish Annals” is 1166-73 [http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Aife.shtml].

Name returned for language group/time period incompatibility (SENA Appendix C).

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