Minutes of the March, 2015 Heralds Meeting

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MINUTES OF THE MONTHLY MEETING – March 22, 2015 (11:10 am to 4:45 pm)

The meeting was held at Green Crown’s home. In general, all future meetings will be held at Green Crown’s home (564 Broadmoor Blvd., San Leandro, CA 94577; email greencrownwest@yahoo.com for directions).

Frederick of Holland, Vesper; Krysta of Starfall, Green Crown; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Michel von Schiltach, Brachet; Dafydd Waleis, Nebuly P. and CoH Exchequer; Aasa Thorvaldsdottir, Black Mark P.; Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym, PaL; Emma Fitzwilliam, PE; Derelei filia Uoret, guest lecturer; Edith of Swansdael, guest and awesome book transporter.

Heralds’ Meetings for 2015: May 17, July 12, September 20, November 15 (the day after Herald’s Collegium), January 3, 2016 (tentative based on 12th Night). Meetings begin at 11AM, with walk-in processing no later than 10:30AM. “Road show” meetings, if any, will be announced well in advance.

Walk-in submissions may be held over until the following meeting at the discretion of Matins.

We are conducting some preliminary name research through the West Kingdom heraldic consultation mailing list wkheralds_consults@yahoogroups.com. This list is open to all those interested in West Kingdom book heraldry: both names and devices, and either to contribute or to ask questions. To join the list, please subscribe through Yahoo or at wkheralds_consults-subscribe@yahoogroups.com. If you subscribe by e-mail, you can complete the process by replying to the confirmation e-mail; it is not necessary to log in to Yahoo. Please note that initial posts are moderated and thus may not appear on the list immediately.


Vesper: Aasa Black Mark brought a box of ancient heraldic relic-wear, containing a cloak that was Randall of Hightower’s, an ancient Tabard with the Southern Shores device on the sleeve; and a hood that was Wilhelm von Schlussel’s. The Southern Shores tabard was sent back to Southern Shores, Vesper will consider the proper storage and/or disposition of the other items. Vesper has responded to Laurel regarding the state of the College. He will be asking all staff and Principality heralds for written reports, and roster letters will go out soon. There is an urgent need for a replacement for Seawolf Herald for the Principality of the Mists. Trainees for the Vesper job and the Matins job are also needed. Golden Playne, in Thailand, will be sending more submissions for consideration, including official Shire arms. We need to put procedures in place to make the process as easy as possible for them, considering the financial conversion and A4->letter paper size issues.

Seawolf: needs replacement ASAP (not present)

Sable Swan: not present (no report)

Stellanordica: not present (no report)

Exchequer: Is working with Vesper to get the financial reporting for 2014 done. All is well.

Matins (vacant - Green Crown reporting): New submission procedure is going pretty well. The new forms are great, but they regularly print out at the wrong size (user error, but…). All but one name was researched prior to the meeting using the mailing lists, which was a great help in keeping the meeting time down.

Green Crown: Most submissions came in on time – 10 days before the meeting. I was able to do some pre-meeting email consultation to resolve issues that were immediately apparent.

Banner: not present (no report)

Baldric: not present (no report)

Brachet: Michel is commenting on OSCAR; he had a brief slow-down due to his career advancement and changeover, but expects to get caught up shortly. All is well.

Greencloak: not present (no report)

Latimer: Astrid sent the name research books to the meeting with Edith (thank you Edith!!!) and also did advance name research prior to the meeting which greatly enriched our documentation. She will be running the consultation table at upcoming events.

Golem: Everything is OK; court reports are all caught up.

ANNOUNCEMENTS / Other Business

Laurel requires now 0 (zero) paper submissions – we need only one copy and Matins doesn’t mail anything to Laurel, just sends scans. Effective immediately we will only require from submitters:

Name submission: one copy and documentation
Device submission: one line drawing, one colored drawing, with documentation if needed
Badge submission: one line drawing, one colored drawing, documentation as needed
Money: $10 for name+device or name+badge, $6 for individual submissions.

Colored submissions are still required to be hand colored using markers, not crayons or pencils, and must be colored with “quality markers” so colors don’t change; we encourage the use of Crayola Classic markers. If the submission is not colored in true colors, the College is required to send it back.



VOICE HERALDRY: Greencloak will continue to hold voice heraldry training sessions at the beginning of events to encourage involvement at the event.

MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Vesper at herald@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds' website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm.

The office of Brachet Herald was filled as of the September meeting; no commenting meetings are being held, but Brachet is brainstorming to try to do e-meetings. More news soon.


The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.

November 2014 LoAR (printed January 14, 2015) (No West LoI)

Cover letter

From Pelican: On the Designators Fellowship and Free Company

We have had recent submissions with forms of Fellowship as a designator for both an order name and a household name.

Blue Tyger documented fellowship as the lingua Anglica form of the Middle English felau-rede, which is glossed as "A group of associates or companions bound by leadership or kind; a company, band, crew; specif., a body of soldiers or knights" (Middle English Dictionary). In addition, Green Staff found fellowship in the Oxford English Dictionary (s.v. fellowship) as a term referring to a ship's crew (e.g., felschepe of the Kervel) and in guild or company names (e.g., fellowship of the stationers and fellowship of the Merchants Adventurers of England. Lastly, Siren documented the use of fellowship in order names (e.g., Felship of the Garter). Therefore, Fellowship is a reasonable designator for both order and household names.

For another submission, Green Staff documented the designator Free Company in pre-1650 records from Ireland and England and its colonies in the Americas. For example, a petition to establish a free company of adventurers is dated to 1648 [Records of the Governor and Company of the Massachusetts Bay in New England: 1642-1649 (http://books.google.com/books?id=Ei40AQAAMAAJ, p. 138)]. The creation of a free companie in the colony of Virginia is mentioned in 1622 [The Records of the Virginia Company of London (http://books.google.com/books?id=eqQ8AQAAIAAJ, p. 605)].

Just as with the designator Company (see the May 2013 Cover Letter), Fellowship and its cognates can now be used as a designator for any suitable non-personal name. Free Company can be used as a designator for household names. The use of each designator must be appropriate for the type of non-personal name being submitted.

We are therefore directing Palimpsest to develop new wording for the relevant sections of SENA, particularly Appendix E.

From Wreath: the end of the Russian firebird

This month a submission prompted us to revisit the question of Russian firebirds as a charge. Not only is there no clearly defined depiction for a Russian firebird in Society armory, but it appears that the charge itself is post-period with the earliest descriptions dating only to the 1800s. Therefore, pending period documentation, we will not register Russian firebirds after the July 2015 meeting.

West Acceptances - November LoAR

Christine the Accursed. Reblazon of device. Azure, a chrysanthemum in profile slipped and leaved Or.

Blazoned when registered in June 1973 as Azure, a chrysanthemum slipped and leaved Or, we are making clear that the chrysanthemum is in profile.

Hans Shaffer. Name.

Submitted as Hans Shaffer, the name was changed in kingdom to Hans Schaffer in order to match the documentation they could find. In commentary, Blue Tyger documented the spelling Shaffer in Prussia, dated to 1626 in the FamilySearch Historical Records. Therefore, we are able to restore the spelling to the submitted form.

West Returns - November LoAR


December 2014 LoAR (printed February 14, 2015) (September 30, 2014 LoI)

Cover letter

From Laurel: KWHSS 2016 Bids Requested

For those considering bidding on the 2016 Known World Heraldic and Scribal Symposium, the deadline to have your bid entered into OSCAR is April 30, 2015. This will give the College of Arms time for consideration so that we can announce the bid's award at the 2015 KWHSS in the Canton of Eoforwic, Ealdormere, on June 26-28 at the Road Show.

Please note that, due to the timing of SCA 50th Year Celebration and Pennsic War, we request that bids avoid bidding for the time period surrounding those events, including the traditional times of year for KWHSS. Because a large amount of people will want to attend 50YC, and a large portion of senior heralds attend Pennsic, scheduling for these times could produce attendance issues for the Symposium. All other times on the calendar are certainly open for discussion. We expect to return to the traditional time of year in 2017.

Please remember that bids posted to OSCAR are publicly readable. Because of this, any personal information, such as legal names, addresses, phone numbers, and email, should not be included in these bids without signed written permission. Such information as is necessary for the entire College of Arms to see should be posted as a comment after the bid is finalized; such information as is necessary for the Sovereigns only to see should be included as a Sovereign Note.

Please send a copy of the full unredacted bid to Laurel at laurel@heraldry.sca.org.

As a reminder, there is a KWHSS domain and web hosting space available on the SCA's servers. Please do not register a new domain.

Please see http://heraldry.sca.org/kwhss/ or contact Laurel if you have any questions.

West Acceptances - December LoAR

Apollonia Faust. Name and device. Purpure, a polypus argent, in chief two mullets of eight points Or, a bordure compony argent and sable.

Please advise the submitter that the polypus's legs should not cross each other.

Bricca di Ghelere. Badge. (Fieldless) In pall three rabbits courant conjoined by the ears Or.

Fearghus mac Airt. Badge. Gyronny arrondy argent and vert, four triquetras points to center argent.

Jeannette of Bois d'Arc. Name.

Submitted as Jeannette de Bois d'Arc, personal name submissions using the branch name allowance must use the lingua Anglica form of [branchname] under PN1B2f of SENA. Therefore, the byname was changed by kingdom to of Bois d'Arc.

The submitted form of the given name, Jeannette, was not documented in the Letter of Intent. In commentary, Blue Tyger found this spelling in presumably French names from late 16th century Switzerland in the FamilySearch Historical Records. Therefore, the submitted spelling is registerable.

Bois d'Arc is the registered name of an SCA branch.

Karius Hutzelmann. Name and device. Sable, a tree blasted argent within six mullets of eight points in annulo Or.

Nice 16th century German name!

Although evocative, this device submission does not presume upon the important non-SCA armory of the Stewards of Gondor: Sable, a tree blasted, flowered and eradicated beneath an arch of seven mullets of eight points argent. There is a DC for the tincture change of the mullet and another one for changing the arrangement.

Loðinn vikingr. Name and device. Per saltire Or and vert, a wolf's head cabossed sable between in pale two drinking horns fesswise reversed gules and in fess two maidens' busts argent.

Submitted as Loðinn vikingr (with the letter edth in the given name), the Letter of Intent spelled the given name Lo{d/}inn vikingr (with a d with a slash). We have restored the name to the submitted form.

Please advise the submitter to add some internal detailing so as to improve the identifiability of the horns.

Margery Garret. Augmentation of arms. Per fess embattled sable mullety argent and gules, in base a bee argent marked sable and as an augmentation in canton a beehive argent.

Submitted as a "device change" this is actually the registration of an augmentation of arms. As such, the old device cannot be released as the administrative handbook and long standing precedent make exquisitely clear that both the unaugmented and the augmented arms are protected and are protected and that the augmentation doesn't exist without the context of the device it augments.

Please advise the submitter to draw the bee with less internal detailing so as to make it more clear that the tincture is primarily argent.

The depiction of the line of division on the low contrast field does not meet current standards but is grandfathered to the submitter.

Minamoto Shintaro Masashige. Device. Per pale sable and gules, in chief two plates charged with a wolf's head couped contourny gules and a wolf's head couped sable, a bordure argent.

Nancy of Edgewood Castle. Name and device. Per fess argent and azure, on a chief embattled sable three lozenges argent.

The Letter of Intent stated that Nancy is the submitter's legal given name, and that of Edgewood Castle, the registered byname of her spouse, was grandfathered to the submitter. However, proof to support the legal name allowance and the grandfather clause was not provided in the submission packet.

Luckily for the submitter, Nancy is documented to late 16th century England in the FamilySearch Historical Records, and the Letter of Intent provided alternative documentation for the construction of the locative. Therefore, we are able to register this name without returning it administratively.

Please advise the submitter to draw the per fess line lower. Typically chiefs are essentially added on top of a design and so the per fess line should divide equally the space between the bottom of the chief and the bottom of the shield. Also please advise the submitter to draw the embattlements with more amplitude.

Niall Mór mac Cernaich. Badge. (Fieldless) On a mullet of six points Or a grenade sable flammant gules.

Renée de Cataluña. Name and device. Azure, a domestic cat couchant gardant and in chief a moon in her plenitude Or.

Renée is the submitter's legal given name. The submitted spelling is also found in Deseins de professions nobles et publiques, contenans plusieurs traictés divers et rares et, entre autres, l'Histoire de la maison de Bourbon, avec beaux secrets historiques by Antoine de Laval (http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k55126539.image.r=Ren%C3%A9e.f554.langEN), dated to 1613, so the submitter need not rely on the legal name allowance.

The Letter of Intent questioned the use of the source CORDE (Corpus Diacrónico del Español), which was used to document the place name Cataluña. This source is on the no-photocopy list in Appendix H of the Admin Handbook. Instructions for using this source can be found in the January 2011 Cover Letter.

This name combines a French given name and Spanish byname. This is an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C of SENA.

Saxi bilstyggr Geirsson. Device change. Per bend azure and sable, a candle fesswise lit at both ends argent.

The submitter's old device, Azure, a bull's head cabossed within a bordure argent, is released.

Signý kistubrjótr. Name and device. Quarterly Or and gules, two ermines combattant proper.

Steinn Skald. Name and device. Sable, bearded axe bendwise sinister argent charged on the head with an Uraz rune palewise vert.

Submitted as Steinn Skaldi, the submitter requested authenticity for "9th C Norse occupation of Ireland". The attested byname is Skald. We have changed the byname to this form in order to register this name. The byname, however, is not documented until the 10th century, so we do not know if this name meets the submitter's request for authenticity.

Yngvildr Þorgilsdottir. Badge. Per bend sinister vert and argent, a sewing needle bendwise inverted gules.

West Returns - December LoAR

Wulfgar Wartooth. Device. Sable, on a gauntlet aversant argent an eye argent irised azure, an orle argent.

This device submission is returned for lack of contrast between the tertiary charge and the charge it is on. Per precedent:
We hereby rule that that there is no proper tincture for eyes. We will no longer worry about tiny details such as the eyelashes (if present) or the pupil: those are considered unblazoned artistic details. The tinctures of the sclera (the "white" of the eye) and the iris may be specified in blazon; contrast against the field will be judged by the sclera's tincture. [Nov 2007 LoAR Cover Letter]

Here the sclera, which is considered for contrast, is argent and thus of the same tincture as the gauntlet.

January 2015 LoAR (printed March 12, 2015) (No Western LoI)

Cover letter

From Laurel: Job Opening - Exchequer of the SCA Inc. College of Arms

The Exchequer of the SCA Inc - College of Arms is a Deputy to the Society Exchequer and the 'treasurer/financial officer' for the Laurel Sovereign of Arms and College of Arms. The Exchequer of the College of Arms works on a day-to-day basis with Laurel Sovereign of Arms' heraldic staff, roughly seven people: Laurel Sovereign of Arms, Wreath Sovereign of Arms, Pelican Sovereign of Arms, Ragged Staff Herald (submissions clerk), Archivist, Palimpsest (Rules/Education), and Non Scripta (aka Laurel IT Deputy); the most frequent being the Ragged Staff Herald and the Laurel Sovereign of Arms. He/she will hold a financial warrant and send all financial reports to the Society Exchequer.

Duties include:

Candidate should have several years experience as an exchequer, preferably kingdom level. Candidate should also be passing familiar with heraldic registration process, but in-depth knowledge is not necessary.

Candidate should be able to transition to the office during the summer of 2015. The candidate would work with the current Exchequer on the 2nd Quarter Report for 2015, learning the budget, ledger and reporting forms, and submissions tracking process, and coordinate any necessary bank account changes to be able to "fly on their own" as of August 31, 2015. If you are interested in filling this office, send your modern and SCA resumes to both the Society Exchequer (exchequer@sca.org), and Laurel (laurel@heraldry.sca.org), by May 1st, 2015.

From Wreath: Alternate emblazons in OSCAR

Kingdoms are reminded that we do not consider alternate emblazons, only the originally submitted emblazon. There is a provision in Admin Handbook section V.B.2.g for timely correction, if the wrong depiction has been uploaded, but once that window has passed the proper procedure is to withdraw the incorrect item and resubmit the correct one. On a related note, there is no need or usefulness for commenters to post suggested redraws in OSCAR. Commentary should focus on what was submitted on the Letters of Intent.

From Pelican: A Call for Further Commentary - Alternative Titles in Turkish

In November 2014, Green Staff pointed out that some of our current alternate titles in Turkish were not used in period, and suggested period forms. Thank you to Green Staff for her hard work.

The current List of Alternate Titles is found at http://heraldry.sca.org/titles.html.

Barones, Kontess, Vikontess, Dües are the modern Turkish borrowings of the English Baroness, Countess, Viscountess, and Duchess, respectively. No evidence was found that any of these forms were used in period. If this proposal is accepted, these titles would be released.

For Lady, Hanimefendi is a compound form of Hanm, a Turkish form of Khanum ("royal woman"), and Efendi, a modern Turkish title. No evidence was found that this compound was used in period. If this proposal is accepted, Hanimefendi would be released.

The proposal suggested a replacement for all of these titles: Hatun or Hâtûn, a period transliteration of the modern Khatun. Khatun is a Turkic title used by the wives and female relatives of the rulers of various Central Asian states through much of our period. Hâtûn is the usual title for daughters of the sultans through the early 15th century. By the 16th century, however, forms of this title was used by lower-ranking women, for example, court records show townswomen in Istanbul with the title Hatun. Therefore, Green Staff recommended its use for women holding rank from Lady through royal peerage. As a reminder, in use, Turkish titles follow the given name.

We understand that normal Society practice is that our titles reflect our hierarchy. However, if this proposal is accepted, this would not be the case for our Turkish alternative titles. As there was only a single comment in OSCAR concerning this proposal, we are requesting further discussion about this point, and whether it is better in this case to follow period practice or maintain a clear hierarchy in line with Society traditions, even if it is not authentic.

West Acceptances - January LoAR

Katelinen van Walravenshyde. Device. Argent, three fish naiant in annulo dorsal fin to center vert.

This device was pended on the August 2014 Letter of Acceptances and Returns as the required black and white emblazon was not provided in OSCAR.

There is a step from period practice for the use of charges in annulo not in their default palewise orientation.

West Returns - January LoAR


In Service,
Krysta of Starfall,
Green Crown Pursuivant

SUBMISSONS – March (2015)


Æsa Vthyrmsdottir (RESUB name and device to Laurel)

Important - Sound: sounds like “Uth-eerms-dot-tir”; Language/Culture: Scandinavian Gender: female

Æsa – Lind col. 61 sn. Ása ; <Æsa gridkona> ca. 1388 in Diplomatarium Islandicum

Vthyrmsdottir – VTHRYM- Lind. col. 826-7 sn. <Óþyrmir>. <Bergliot Vþyrms kona> ca. 1300; <Ingimundar Vþyrms s.> 1366-1388; <Jærvndh Vtyrmson> and <Jærvndhæ Vthyrmsyni> (dative) 1483

-DOTTIR in Diplomatarium Norvegicum we find: <Sighridh Þorgiulsdottir> 1431, http://www.dokpro.uio.no/perl/middelalder/diplom_vise_tekst.prl?b=3008&s=n&str=%sdottir; <gwnnor thorfins dottir> 1450, DN http://www.dokpro.uio.no/perl/middelalder/diplom_vise_ tekst.prl?b=17290&s=n&str=%dottir; <Botillir Thorgeirs dottir> 1457, DN http://www.dokpro. uio.no/perl/middelalder/diplom_vise_tekst.prl?b=6989&s=n&str=%dottir. (copies uploaded to OSCAR and included in the Laurel packet)

The name formation [given + patronymic “-dottir” byname] is shown in Appendix A in SENA for Icelandic and in Diplomatarium Norvegicum (above) for Norwegian; the several examples shown serve to establish the –dottir patronymic formation pattern for Norwegian. The name elements are middle Icelandic <Aesa> and middle Norwegian <Vthyrm> and are both from the Scandinavian language group per SENA Appendix C. (Our thanks to ffride wlffsdotter rebe.lucas@gmail.com )

Azure, three suns Or each carged with a rose gules seeded Or.

Submitter will be advised to “seed” the centers with some detail. We note: Æsa Sturludottir, registered in August of 2014 (via the East): Sable, three suns Or eclipsed gules. We count one DC for field, and one DC for change of type of tertiary.

Annora Underdowne (NEW device, name registered Dec. 2013, West)

Purpure semy of feathers argent, on a sun Or an oak leaf vert.
Submitter’s first choice submission, Purpure, on a sun Or an oak leaf vert, is in conflict with Caerthe, Barony of: Sable, on a sun throughout Or an aspen leaf vert. This is her first alternate, which appears to be clear of conflict.

Bera Eðvarðardóttir (CHANGE of holding name from Bera of the West, registered July 2013)
Important – Meaning “daughter of Edvardr”; Gender: female

Please change to be authentic for: Viking Era Scandinavia

The name submitted on the form is Bera Edvardardottir:

Bera – submitter’s registered holding name; From the root ber, "bear" found also in berserkr. The name Bera is found in Egils saga Skallagrímssonar, c. 1230, for Bera Yngvarsdóttir, mother of Egill Skallagrímsson; she is also mentioned in Landnámabók ch. 25. Landnámabók, ch. 100, states that Egill Skallagrímsson also had a daughter named Bera. A diminutive form of this name is Birla. Bassi, p. 8; Cleasby and Vigfusson, pp. 58 s.v. bera

Eðvarðardóttir – Eðvarðr is found on p. 9 of Bassi. Formation of the genitive <Eðvarðar-> is according to Bassi, p. 17.

Submitter’s request for authenticity has led us to change the submitted name (which may have been a result of typeface/.pdf form error) to Bera Eðvarðardóttir.

The Scandinavian (any time period) name formation [given + patronymic] is shown in Appendix A in SENA. Bassi, p. 17, shows [-dóttir] as the correct patronymic formation for “daughter.”

Caitlin O’Byrne (NEW name, see RETURNS for device)
Will not accept major changes.

Important - Language and/or culture: Irish; Gender: female.

Caitlin – Shown in this spelling in http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?2059+0 and http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?1667+0; and is also shown in Woulfe, Patrick, Sloinnte Gaedheal is Gall: Irish Names and Surnames <https://archive.org/details/irishnamessurnam00woul on p.47>. The notation for Woulfe in the Admin Handbook states “Recommended for surnames only; italicized forms are from the time of Elizabeth I or James I.” If the College has clearer, more recent documentation for the name in this spelling, the submitter would appreciate the help. The closest dated form we can find is Caitilin, http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Caitilin.shtml; found in OC&M dated from 1411 through 1592.

O’Byrne – Also shown in Woulfe, Patrick, Sloinnte Gaedheal is Gall: Irish Names and Surnames https://archive.org/details/irishnamessurnam00woul; page 87.

The name formation [given + marked pat. byname] is appropriate for Anglicized Irish, per Appendix A in SENA, ref. Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada, "Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents"(http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/).

Clare Elena de Montfort (Change of Primary Name from Clare Elena of Strathclyde, registered January 1997, to be released upon registration of new name)
Important - Language and/or culture: English; Gender: female

Clare Elena – In Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/reaneyAG.html]. “Clare” is dated to 1379 and “Elena” is dated between 1187 and 1381.

de Montfort – Found in Academy Of Saint Gabriel Report 2531 http://www.s-gabriel.org/2531 dated to 1086 in this spelling, ref. Reaney & Wilson and Bardsley.

In "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J93W-QJR: accessed 22 March 2015), Francis Demontfort Or Mountfort in entry for Symon Mountfort, 16 Sep 1571; Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P01030-1

The name formation [double given +locative article + locative byname] is appropriate for later period English names, as shown in Appendix A in SENA.

Conrad Richter (NEW name, NEW device)

Important - Language and/or culture: 1400-1500 German; Gender: male

Please change to be authentic for: 1400-1500 German, Neurmberg

Conrad – Under “Conrat” in Aryanhwy’s German Names from Rottweil… at http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/rottweil1441.html; dated to 1441.

Richter – found in Aryanhwy’s German Names from Nurnberg, 1497: Uncategorized http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/german/surnamesnurnunid.html.

The German name formation [given + byname] is shown in Appendix A in SENA.

Per bend sinister gules and sable, a maltese cross argent charged with four ermine spots tops to center sable.

Appears to be clear of conflict. We will make a note to submitter to draw the maltese cross with uniform arms and a smaller point of intersection.

Dafydd Waleis (NEW name, NEW device)

Important - Gender: male

Dafydd – found in St. Gabriel report #809 http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/809.txt from Gruffudd, Heini, _Enwau i'r Cymry/Welsh Personal Names_ (Talybont: Y Lolfa, 1984).

Waleis – St. Gabriel report #1104 shows Osbert Waleis 1156-85; Robert Waliscus or Waleis 1166, 1169; Eudo le Waleis c.1200; Richard le Waleis or le Walles 1225, 1244); and report #2827 shows “…Other bynames originate from the Anglo-French word or , which means "Welshman, Celt". Some examples from your time period include: Waleis 1156-85; Walicus or Waleis 1166, 1169…” http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/1104.txt and http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/2827.txt.

The name formation [given + locative byname] is appropriate for Welsh per Appendix A in SENA.

Or, a closed book palewise and on a chief wavy azure two keys in saltire wards to base argent.

Device appears to be clear of conflict.

Derelei filia Uoret (NEW name, NEW device, NEW badge)

Important - Language and/or culture: 8th C. Pictish; Gender: don’t care

Submitter supplied the following documentation:

Derelei – found Clancy, T.O., “Philosopher-king: Nechtan mac Der Ilei” Scottish Historical Review, 83. (2004) pp. 125-49, 127-8; and Heather Rose Jones, “A Consideration of Pictish Names” (1996) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/pict5.html which discuss the various versions of the Pictish King Lists, as well as in the guarantor list of the Cáin Adomnáin; spellings in these historical sources include Derelei, Derilei, Deirile, and Derili; The king lists “with the most appreciably Pictish orthography represent the second element as –elei” which is submitter’s preferred spelling. The name is always found as the parent of someone else, significantly Bruide mac Der-Ilei and Nechtan mac Der-Ilei. The name is thus in the genitive case (though the genitive did not alter all names significantly, and Clancy mentions that the first element of the name does not lenite. Furthermore, in Clancy, T.O. “The Drosten Stone: a new reading” Proc Soc Antiq Scot, 123 (1993), 345-53, 347, it is noted that it is possible that Pictish had lost its case endings, and certain Pictish names may therefore remain the same in the nominative and genitive cases even when appearing in other language contexts). Early scholars assumed that Derelei must have been father of Bruide and Nechtan, but recent trends in scholarship beginning in the early 60s have led to the increasingly accepted theory that Derelei was the mother of Bruide and Nechtan, a man named Dargart being their father (Clancy, p. 128-9). For attested spellings of Derelei, submitter’s order of preference would be: Derelei, Derilei, Deirile, Derile . (copies included in the Laurel packet)

filia – patronymic formation per SENA Appendix A for Pictish.

Uoret – also found in Heather Rose Jones, “A Consideration of Pictish Names” (1996) http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/pict5.html and Clancy, T.O. “The Drosten Stone: a new reading” Proc Soc Antiq Scot, 123 (1993), 345-53, 347, Uurad is one of the few names to appear both as a Pictish king and as the father of Pictish kings (the vast majority of the names found in the king list, even those that occur multiple times, fall exclusively into one category or the other). See Bridei son of Uurad, Ciniod son of Uurad, Drest son of Uurad and Uurad son of Bargoit. Like so many Pictish names, it appears with spelling variations between the sources, especially between languages, and even within sources, sometimes with extreme differences. “Uoret” is the form of the name found on the inscription on the Drosten Stone, also known as Vigeans 1 (Jones references this as “II.D. Roman-letter inscription (8-9th c.?)”). Clancy’s interpretation of the inscription would have Uoret in the genitive in an inscription using a mix of Latin and Gaelic. He notes that the genitive here (if his reading is correct) is very close to nominative in manuscript sources, and it is here that he mentions the possibility that either the scribe was uncertain how to form the genitive of a Pictish name or that Pictish had, by this point (9th century), lost its case endings. For attested spellings of Uoret, submitter’s preference is Uoret, followed by Uurad, which submitter believes to be the most common variation of the name. (copies included in the Laurel packet)

The name formation [given + patronymic article + byname] is appropriate for Pictish per Appendix A in SENA.

Beyond minor spelling variations, submitter’s alternate choice would be the Gaelicized version of the name, “Derelei ingen Ferat”. Note this is Gaelicizing both the “daughter of” element and the patronymic so that they match.

Device: Azure, on a chevron cotised Or three crescents pendant azure.

We have advise the submitter to feed the cotises. We find no conflicts.

Badge: (Fieldless) a goose close azure.

Submitter’s first choice, (Fieldless) a goose close to sinister azure is in conflict with Signy Dimmridaela’s badge, registered in July of 1986 (via the Middle): Per pale Or and argent, a swan naiant to sinister azure. Reversing the goose to default clears the conflict. No other conflicts were found. Submitter was in attendance and gave us permission to flip the goose.

Hase of Darkwood (NEW name, NEW device)

Important - Sound: Looking for a given name that sounds like Hayes; Gender: male

Submitter supplied the following documentation:

Hase – found in 15th Century Dutch Names by Aryanhwy merch Catmael http://heraldry.sca.org/names/dutch/dutch15.html, dated to 1478-81.

of – locative article required by “SCA placename” rule

Darkwood – registered name of a Barony in the Kingdom of the West (September 1988)

The name formation [given + anglicized locative article + SCA locative byname] is appropriate for names formed using the Branch Name Allowance, as shown in PN1.B.2.f in SENA.

Per chevron gules and sable, a chevron argent between in chief three oak leaves slipped and fructed Or and in base a sword argent.

Device appears to be clear of conflict.

Jak Wyldmy (NEW name, NEW device)

Will not accept major changes

Important - Sound: Jack / Jax; Gender: male

Submitter supplied the following documentation:

Jak – Jakys from Pre-1600 English Brass Inscriptions, Julian Goodwyn; Jakke/Jak found as pseudonyms in the Rebel Letters / Peasant Revolt of 1381; Jakke found in Chaucer, p. 939 Middle English Dictionary part 4, ed. Sherman Kuhn; Jak/Jack found as diminutive for John (English), Jaque (French), Iacobus (Latin), Jankin (German/Dutch) 1200-1500, various sources; Johnny Jacks / Jack n various traditional medieval plays; Jack Cade in Henry VI part 2, Shakespeare.

Pre-1600 English Brass Inscriptions http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/brasses/menfreq.html shows “Jakys”.

Latimer notes the following support for “Jak”: There is a Latin poem about the death of the Archbishop of Canterbury [Simon of Sudbury] during the Peasant Revolt of 1381 that is supposed to have “Jak” as the spelling for the pseudonyms for several rebels – a variant of “Jack”. She has not found the full text of the poem to cite, but there are on-line articles that mention this in excerpted examples.

On Project Gutenberg [http://www.gutenberg.org/files/27027/27027-h/27027-h.htm], there is a transcription, published in 1826, of a manuscript written in the 15th century, called “A Chronicle of London from 1089 to 1483”. This publication uses the language and spelling of the original and has “Jak Cade” on page 136, as well as other variants elsewhere in the text. (copy uploaded to OSCAR and included in the Laurel packet)

In “The Nun’s Priest’s Tale” by Chaucer, the leader of the Peasant’s Revolt is referenced as “Jakke Straw”.

In “English Lyrics before 1500”, edited by Theodore Silverstein, there is a poem [Ladd Y the Daunce a Myssomur Day] in which several lines refer to “Iak” – since the author was using the “I” form rather than the “J” form. Found on page 114 which may or may not be readable at [https://books.google.com/books?id=2GrsTnHkAdUC&pg=PA134&lpg=PA134&dq=ladd+Y+the+daunce&source=bl&ots=FfLNbuK28K&sig=aY3IHsFbJwyXzp7Wo7PnSOS1dVk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9KMHVeroEMSpogTD44FA&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=ladd%20Y%20the%20daunce&f=false]. This is a recent book, shown only in part, so I can’t download the page or guarantee that is one any other reader will be able to see that page. I searched for that poem on the Internet, but couldn’t find a downloadable version in the original spelling.

Withycombe indicates that “Jak” is a variant for “Jack” in the context of a discussion of the origin of “Jack”, but gives no date for that spelling or for any of the other variants.

Wyldmy – found in Misplaced Names in Reaney & Wilson by Jeanne Marie Lacroix http://heraldry.sca.org/names/misplacednamesbyname.htm; dated to 1287.

The name formation [given + descriptive byname] is appropriate for Old English (Rare) and for Middle/Early Modern English, as shown in Appendix A in SENA.

Quarterly azure and argent a lion sejant affronty Or.

Device appears to be clear of conflict.

Jeannette of Bois d’Arc (NEW device, name registered Dec. 2014 via the West)

Per fess vert and sable, a tree Or between and maintained by two stags salient respectant argent.
Submitter’s original design, Vert, a tree Or between and maintained by two stags salient respectant argent, is in conflict with Huette Aliza von und zu Ährens und Mechthildberg, registered August 1979 (via Caid): Vert, a tree blasted throughout Or. One difference for the addition of the stags; none for tree to tree blasted. In October 2011, Laurel DID clearly state there would be no difference granted for "tree" vs "tree blasted:
Jarvis Riley. Badge. (Fieldless) A crequier sable. We were asked to reconsider whether or not a crequier conflicts with a generic tree…As our understanding of period variations of trees has grown, our precedents have changed. Where once we granted difference between a tree and a tree blasted, we no longer do, as we have found period depictions of trees in armory with very few leaves. Particularly in German armory, it is quite typical for trees of all types to be drawn very stylistically, with one leaf at the end of each branch, as in the crequier.

This is the submitter’s first alternate; it appears to be clear of conflict.

Michièle l’encriere (NEW name)

Important - Meaning: byname meaning ink maker, though dyer would work, too, which is <tainturiere>; Sound: given name sounds like Michelle; Gender: female

Submitter supplied the following documentation:

Michièle – found in An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris by Colm Dubh, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/paris.html#M.

l’ – accepted article for occupational bynames in French per SENA appendix A

encriere – Fem. For “inkmaker”; found in Occupational By-Names in the 1292 Tax Role of Paris By Colm Dubh  http://heraldry.sca.org/names/parisbynames.html.

The name formation [given + occupational article + occupational byname] is appropriate for French as shown in Appendix A in SENA.

Mór ingen Donnchaid (NEW name, see RETURNS for device)

Important - Language and/or culture: Scottish; Gender: female

Please change my name to be authentic for: 12th century.

Submitter’s form shows “Mór mac Donnchada,” requests authenticity for 12th century, and states language “Scottish” is important. We were able to find:

Mór ingen Donnchada – found in Index of Names in Irish Annals: Mór by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Mor.shtml dated to 1242. The problem here, of course, is that this is a 13th C Irish name. We have also found the following, in support of a 12th century Irish/Scottish name:

Mór – found in Index of Names in Irish Annals: Mór by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan, http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Mor.shtml dated from 916 to 1599.

ingen – found in A Simple Guide to Constructing 12th Century Scottish Gaelic Names by Sharon L. Krossa http://medievalscotland.org/scotnames/simplescotgaelicnames12.shtml, which states “Each woman's given name & byname —indicating who her father is— is set up as follows: <given name in nominative case> ingen <father's given name in genitive case & lenited unless starting with D, T, L, N, R, or a vowel>

Donnchaid – Also in A Simple Guide to Constructing 12th Century Scottish Gaelic Names, we find the nominative case male given name “Donnchad,” from the Book of Deer. Donnchaid or Donnchid are shown as the genitive forms; we believe “Donnchaid” would be closer in sound to the requested “Donnchada.” The name is not lenited because it begins with a “D. “

The 12th century Scottish name formation [given + patronymic article + father’s given, genitive case and unlenited] is referenced in Appendix A in SENA, and shown in A Simple Guide to Constructing 12th Century Scottish Gaelic Names by Sharon L. Krossa (see above), and The Spelling of Lenited Consonants in Gaelic (http://medievalscotland.org/scotlang/lenition.shtml by Sharon L. Krossa. The given name is documented as Irish, which is an allowable lingual mix per SENA Appendix C.

Submitter states in an email: “So far as i can find in the Royal Annals the use of mac in by names was not restricted to the males.” However, we can find no instances where a clearly female given name is followed by “mac” in the 12th Century. We have changed the name to a form that we think most closely reflects the submitter’s wishes. We request the College’s help in making the name more authentic if possible, and in returning it to the “mac” form if we have overlooked something in that regard.

Rebecca da Firenze (NEW name, NEW device)

Will not accept major changes

Important - Language and/or culture: 15th – 16th C. Italian; Gender: female

Rebecca – Jewish Given Names Found in Les Noms Des Israelites en France at http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/levy/rebecca.html shows <Rebecca (Pierre tombale) à Mayence> dated to 977; <Rebecca à Nuremberg> dated to 1308; <Rebecca à Marseille> dated to 1486.

da – locative article for Italian placenames per SENA Appendix A, “Locative bynames in the northern and central areas normally take the form da X…”

Firenze – Letters of Alessandra Strozzi, Letter 24, dated 3/31/1461; <http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/efts/IWW/texts/htmlfiles/A0024-T001/Ventiquattresima.html - accessed 2/9/2015>. (copies uploaded to OSCAR and included in the Laurel packet)

[da Firenze] is also documented in the table of surnames at [http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/venice14/venice14sur.html#table] from Fourteenth Century Venetian Personal Names, by Arval Benicoeur (Josh Mittleman) and Talan Gwynek (Brian M. Scott) October 1999.

Submitter will accept changes to city of origin if necessary. Acceptable cities without special consultation, in order of preference: Arezzo, Ferrara, Urbino, Deruta. Please consult submitter directly for any other changes.

The name formation [given +locative article + locative byname] is appropriate for both French and Italian, as shown in Appendix A in SENA. French and Italian may be combined per SENA Appendix C.

Azure, in fess two harps, a point pointed, and a chief Or.

We found no conflicts.

Ruaidrí Mac Síthigh (CHANGE of Primary Name from Ciaran Mac Sithigh, registered October, 2012, current name to be released upon registration of change)

Gender: male

Ruaidrí – In “Index of Names in Irish Annals: Ruaidri/Ruaidhri” by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Ruaidhri.shtml, multiple instances of the submitted spelling are shown.

Mac Síthigh – The following is the OSCAR comment documenting <Mac Sithigh> when this submitter received registration of same in October, 2012 (Alys Mackyntoich https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=100&loi=1479):

“Woulfe's entry for <Mac Síthigh> lists multiple 16th/17th cen. Anglicized Irish forms; generally this is sufficient to support the use of the Gaelic form during the same time period. 

<Toirrdhealbhach Mac Síthigh> appears in entry 1522.9 of the Annals of the Four Masters (http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G100005E.html), making it certain that some Gaelic form of the name was used in the 16th cen. 

<Eóin Mac Síthigh> appears in entry 1397.8 of the Annals of the Four Masters (http://www.ucc.ie/celt/online/G100005D/text003.html), confirming the use of the byname even earlier. 

Removing the accents throughout, <Ciaran Mac Sithigh> (note the spacing) looks fine.

Under SENA (Appendix C), since middle Irish and early modern Irish are in the same Gaelic naming group, they can be mixed at will as long as the elements are documented from less than 500 years apart which is the case here even if you take the later of the citations from the Annals of the Four Masters which is dated to 1522.”

Since the submitter’s requested name change includes the accented “í”, we have replaced the accent throughout for this name change submission.

The name formation [given + byname] is appropriate Irish/Gaelic, as shown in Appendix A in SENA. Comments re. SENA Appendix C are noted above.

Tancorix filia Brid (NEW name, NEW device)

Will not accept major changes

Important - Language and/or culture: Brit Celt; Meaning: relation to mother; Gender: female

Tancorix – found in The First Thousand Years of British Names by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/british1000/appendix1_2.html in Appendix II; also found in Celtic Personal Names in Roman Britain http://www.asnc.cam.ac.uk/personalnames/details.php?name=444.

filia – Bynames based on relationships can be marked with Latinized particles [sic] such as filius 'son', filia 'daughter', uxor 'wife', and relicta 'widow'. These are usually followed by the Latinized form of the person in the genitive case, though sometimes the name is not declined. (SENA Appendix A)

Brid – Registered SCA given name of submitter’s biological mother, Brid Hecgwiht (LoAR July 1992).

The name formation [given +Latin familial relationship article + mother’s given name] is requested by submitter. SENA says under PN2.C.2.d: A name which includes name phrases documented under the legal name allowance, the grandfather clause, or the branch name allowance follows special rules. These name phrases are treated as neutral in language and time. “Tancorix” and “filia” are both taken from name elements used in Roman Britain [a period of only about 356 years] the use of a single name element from any parental name should be acceptable.

Frederick, Vesper and Krysta, Green Crown, attest that Tancorix is Brid’s biological daughter. A letter of attestation from Baroness Brid is also supplied in Laurel’s packet.

Per pale Or and purpure, two foxes combatant each maintaining a lit candle counterchanged.

Device appears to be clear of conflict.

William Korwynson of Starfall (NEW name, NEW device)

Will not accept major changes

Important – Language: 14th-16th cent. English NOT important, just documentable as such; Meaning: Family relationship most important.

William – submitter’s modern given name; also documented in this spelling in the 14th century (English Names from Pre-1600 Brass Inscriptions by Julian Goodwyn (Janell K. Lovelace), edited by Arval Benicoeur (Josh Mittleman) [http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/brasses/]) and 16th century (Names found in the Berkeley Hundred Court Rolls by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Friedemann) [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/berkeley100.html]) as English. Latimer notes that Withycombe dates its use in England to the 11th century when William the Conquerer made himself king and says from then on it has held its place as one of the commonest men’s names.

Korwynson – The submitter’s biological father is Korwyn Marius Velis Ariannaid (name registered August 1980 via Ansteorra).

Corwin is a 16th cen. English surname found in the Family Search Historical Records: Katheryne Corwin; Female; Christening; 11 Jan 1599; St. Botolph Without Aldgate, London, London, England; Batch: C02555-2

William Corwin; Male; Christening; 20 Jun 1602; Saint Mary, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England; Batch: P00681-1

Margret Corwin; Female; Marriage; 06 Oct 1595; Kimpton, Hertford, England; Batch: M07255-2

By precedent, such late period English surnames can be used as given names. [Alton of Grimfells, 04/2010 LoAR, A-East].

The Xson marked patronymic form for English is listed as acceptable in SENA Appendix A.

SENA PN.1.b.2.g states “Only the exact, actual name phrase from the registered form may be used, not variants, patterns, etc.” We believe that, since “Corwinson” would be registerable under SENA, the submitter should be allowed the spelling variation which is registered to his father, with the Xson patronymic formation as noted above. Submitter states that he will accept the unmarked patronymic form “William Korwyn of Starfall” if the College of Arms does not agree.

of – standard Middle/Early Modern English locative article; article as registered to William’s mother, as noted below (SENA PN.1.b.2.g)

Starfall – The submitter’s biological mother is Krysta of Starfall (name first registered in 1984 via the West, and reregistered July 2013 via the West as submitter’s mother’s primary name). The locative “of Starfall” is grandfathered to the submitter’s mother, and can therefore be registered by the submitter under SENA PN.1.b.2.g.

Frederick, Vesper, and Krysta, Green Crown (and the mother of the submitter), hereby attest to these relationships as stated. A letter of attestation and Submitter’s birth record showing his relationship to both Krysta of Starfall and Korwyn Marius Velis Ariannaid is included in Laurel’s packet.

In Appendix A of SENA, the name formation given + patronymic byname + locative article + locative is acceptable in Middle/Early Modern English.

Per chevron inverted ermine and azure, in pale a sword inverted gules and a phoenix close affronty head to sinister issuant from base Or.

The charge “a phoenix close affronty head to sinister” is registered to submitter’s biological father, Korwyn Marius Velis Ariannaid (August 1980 via Ansteorra) and therefore may be registered to William per SENA A2.B.3.

Device appears to be clear of conflict.

Wulfgar Wartooth (RESUB of device to Laurel)

Sable, three drinking horns fretted in triangle, an orle argent.
Device appears to be clear of conflict.

Regarding the charge submitted herein, we note this comment in Acceptances on the LoAR March 2006, Finnbogi Úlfkelsson:

Gyronny argent and vert, three drinking horns fretted in triangle sable: Some commenters suggested that this arrangement of charges was non-period. From Guillim's Display of Heraldrie, p.240: "He beareth, Azure, three Trouts Fretted in Triangle, Teste a la Queue, Argent, by the name of Trowtebeck. We use these words Teste a la Queue, in Blazon, to signifie the manner of their Fretting.”
Also, from Acceptances, September 2014 LoAR, Grímólfr Skúlason, Badge for Spak-Hrafns hús:
Gules, three drinking horns fretted in triangle mouths inward and on a chief argent a valknut between two ravens respectant sable.


Aylwin MacNeill (RETURNED RESUB device)

Quarterly gules and azure, a Bichon rampant to sinister argent between in bend two triskeles Or.
The depiction of a Bichon drawn on the submission form is not identifiable as a “dog”; the sense of the heralds present at the meeting was that this drawing looked like a sheep, and, in fact, would be registerable (and awesome) as such. Additionally, submitter documented the breed using AKC printout which states “…often cut lion-style” as court dogs in period. Since the drawing is not identifiable as the charge the submitter documented, we must return it. If the “dog” is redrawn to reflect the documented “lion-style” cut (which was also used on poodles) and therefore be more identifiable as a Bichon, we can forward it to Laurel after the redrawings are received. Alternatively, if the submitter would be satisfied with the animal being described as a “sheep rampant,” it can be forwarded immediately.

Caitlin O’Byrne (NEW device admin RETURNED, name submitted to Laurel (see above))

Argent, a domestic cat sejant affronty sable, on a chief wavy purpure three paw prints argent.
Paw prints are a SFPP. Device appears to be clear of conflict, however, the cat, as drawn, is “a-back-ee” and therefore will need some interior detailing to make it “afronty.” We will forward the device to Laurel at the next meeting if the correctly drawn forms are received timely.

Mór ingen Donnchaid (NEW device RETURNED)

Argent, a fess wavy azure between a raven rising regardant wings displayed and a wolf passant regardant sable.
Mayken de Houtman, registered in December of 2004 (via Caid): Argent, a fess nebuly azure and in chief a raven displayed sable. There is no heraldic difference between nebuly and wavy, and if this raven is even partially “displayed”, the addition of the wolf only generates one difference.

Additionally, this raven is not in a cleanly blazonable posture; it’s body is “rising”, the wings are “displayed” and the head is “regardant.” If the raven was truly “rising regardant”, with the wings together over the back of the body instead of displayed, it would clear the above conflict, per SENA Appendix L.


Crystalmist, Shire of (CHANGE of branch name RETURNED)

Crystalmist would like to change the official group name to “Skathi’s Gate.”

Skathi – an anglicized version of Skaði, a Norse goddess and johenn (giant) associated with bowhunting, skiing, winter and mountains. Skaði appears in such medieval works as Poetic Edda, Prose Edda, and Heimskringla, written in the 13th century.

Since no documentation was provided for the “<possessive of given name> Gate” formation for a place name in later period Scandinavian countries, we are returning it for further work. There was a petition included, which has only the officer’s signatures, no populace signatures. Additionally, this must be returned administratively for lack of populace signatures and lack of use of current (Nov. 2014) branch name form.

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