Minutes of the January, 2014 Heralds Meeting

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MINUTES OF THE MONTHLY MEETING – January 5, 2014 (10:00 am to 12:50 pm)

The meeting was held on the Sunday after Twelfth Night, in Concord, CA. In general, all future meetings will be held at Eilis’ house (2322 Russell Street, Berkeley CA 94705; 510-486-0633 -- call for directions). “Road show” meetings, if any, will be announced well in advance.

Attendees: Frederick of Holland, Vesper; Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym, Matins; Astrith of Swansvale, Latimer, Eilis o’Boirne, Banner; Antonio Giordano di Sicilia, Baldric; Moira O’Connor, PaL; Maxen Dawel ap Morgan, PaL; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Anne FitzRichard, Seawolf; Katerina de Faie, Cornet; David Fellner; Scandal nic Mhaireade; Ryan of Rickford; Bébinn ingen Chonchobair, Cornet; Matilda FitzRichard, Nebuly Pursuivant; Caoimhin o’Fiodhabhra, Glora Fjord; Jena Whitehart, Blue Heron Pursuivant; E’ta’in ingen Dhellag; Alizan de la Fontaine; Zotikes the Cretan; Emma Fitzwilliam; PaL; Kristin Sideris; Aasa Thorvaldsdottir, Greencloak/Black Mark; Caoilinn Rose Maddox, Sable Swan/CoH Exchequer; Tangwistel Telynores; Robert de Perceval; Anne Fawnhaven; HH Miach, PE; HH Sciath; Katla loki Ulfsdottir .

Heralds’ Meetings for 2014: January 5; March 9; May 11; July 13; September 21; November 16, 2014, and January 4, 2015 (road show at 12th Night).

Meetings unless specified otherwise will be held at the home of Eilis O'Boirne in Berkeley, CA. In general, all future meetings will be held at Eilis’ house (2322 Russell Street, Berkeley CA 94705; 510-486-0633 -- call for directions). “Road show” meetings, if any, will be announced well in advance.

Walk-in submissions will be held over until the following month unless they arrive early enough to be processed in before the scheduled start of the meeting. This policy is subject to change when the new Matins takes over.

We are conducting some preliminary name research through the West Kingdom heraldic consultation mailing list wkheralds_consults@yahoogroups.com . This list is open to all those interested in West Kingdom book heraldry: both names and devices, and either to contribute or to ask questions. To join the list, please subscribe through Yahoo or at wkheralds_consults-subscribe@yahoogroups.com. If you subscribe by e-mail, you can complete the process by replying to the confirmation e-mail; it is not necessary to log in to Yahoo. Please note that initial posts are moderated and thus may not appear on the list immediately.


SYMPOSIA AND COLLEGIUMS: Known World Heraldic and Scribal Symposium this year is in Las Vegas – in Gold Coast Casino – 13-15 June – all present were encouraged to attend.

There will be a West Kingdom Heralds’ Collegium – Antonio reserved two dates. The first is Feb 8th (no site yet, word will be sent out when it is determined) – Laurel King of Arms will attend and possibly Wreath Queen of Arms - this event will be as central as possible – Flieg is looking into the Walnut Creek site used for Great Officer Meetings. Vesper passed around a sheet for suggestions of what classes people would like to see at the Heralds’ Collegium.

April 18-20th – West Kingdom Towne Fair - apparently the heralds have not been contacted. It was suggested that this would be a good event for heralds to present “what we are and what we do….” etc. – it is in The Page calendar. This will be discussed at March Meeting – Antonio will talk to Eliska to be sure we can have a table if we want


Mists – is looking for a deputy/successor – Coronet and several tournaments are coming up and she is looking for voices – Mists branch heralds please contact Mists herald.

Cynagua – is also looking for new heralds – court reports are caught up but she will make inventory of business – in process of making travel books and tabards so Their Highnesses have materials to give to people they “grab” at traveling events – also printing out new ceremony books with updated ceremonies – Michael of the Shire is interested in stepping up as Sable Swan.

Oertha (No report) – Moira needs to forward information she may have, otherwise Flieg will “poke them” – court reports of numbered and listed awards are a problem – Hirsch has been keeping online info but the information is not getting into the books.

Golem/Hirsch - court reports are as up to date as he can make them – he has tried to push branch heralds for the baronies to get all their awards. West never tracked them until recently but Hirsch is set up to put them in to avoid losing these official awards. There is a need to backtrack all Baronial Awards (baronial awards are official, but other branch awards are not) – He hasn’t been collecting Baronial ceremonies, but it may make sense… it is thought it would be a good idea to “deposit” these – there is plenty of room on the kingdom server.

Banner/Eilis will be addressing matters so that court reports will be handled more efficiently.

Latimer – will be at March Crown, has an upcoming trip to England but will attempt to not have it conflict with Mists(?) Coronet, but she will let people know if she can’t be at Coronet and needs someone else to hold down the consultation table

Matins -
All minutes were sent to Laurel and Golem. The Clerical Backlog Project was started up and stalled, and is now restarted. She has send many letters and we are almost entirely caught up. Her assistant is handling this year’s letters. The Project started at 2011 for notifications of acceptance and returns and 75-80% of submission had letters sent caught up to the last three months of 2012. Eleven of the e-mails were returned as undeliverable and will be sent via post. This year’s notifications from LoARs all done and going out tomorrow. There have been some problems locating files. The next project is to send out E-mail requesting that anyone who has submitted name or armory in the last 5 years, and doesn’t think they have heard anything, please send info to Gwenhwyfaer through West Heralds or Matins E-mail – this will hopefully catch any gaps. The last dozen of notices from 2013 will be mailed this week, Minutes are up to date and awaiting Laurel. It was announced that November LoAR has very little West Business,

Meeting Dates in 2014 (changing to an every-other-month schedule as the quantity of business to be discussed doesn’t seem to be enough to require monthly meetings): March 9, May 11, July 13, Sept 21, Nov 16, Jan 4 2015

These dates will be submitted to Kingdom Calendar. Meetings information on web page is up to date. Meetings are held at noon at Duchess Eilis’ House in Berkeley – details on Heralds Site. Gwenhwyfaer offered carpool from Sacramento for meetings. Anne FitzRichard from Darkwood also offered carpool. Parking is limited

ANNOUNCEMENTS / Other Business

Laurel requires now 0 (zero) paper submissions – we need only one copy and Matins doesn’t mail anything to Laurel, just sends scans. Effective immediately we will only require from submitters:

Name submission: one copy and documentation
Device submission: one line drawing, one colored drawing, with documentation if needed
Badge submission: one line drawing, one colored drawing, documentation as needed
Money: $10 for name+device or name+badge, $6 for individual submissions.

The submission form needs to be updated (it still says 4 copies), but we are in-line for Laurel to get us new Laurel forms - Moira is working with Laurel office for new updated forms- so we will not be making that change in the current forms.

Colored submissions are still required to be hand colored using markers, not crayons or pencils, and must be colored with “quality markers” so colors don’t change; we encourage the use of Crayola Classic markers. If the submission is not colored in true colors, the College is required to send it back.

It was asked if there is a standard library of computer graphics for charges. This has been attempted but the projects keep getting dropped. Pennsic heraldic templates do exist with mixed reviews.

Flieg is planning to use Facebook and other electronic media to keep heraldry moving, communications up etc.

It was asked if there were any known problems with local heralds. – A lot of times we find out about problems with local heralds long after there has been a problem – no problems with any heralds were presented

One herald stated that “Since submissions are submitted online, local heralds are not being approached” There was clarification that the West doesn’t get submissions online, so we don’t know where this perception is coming from – there are places online for assistance (consults) in some mailing lists and Facebook, but submissions still need to be mailed in.

People seem more apt to use technology rather than approach heralds and there are a lot of people coming to consult table with research of name, especially, already done online since that is often only where name information can be found. It was observed that there has been some “not so good stuff” recommended online, but nothing specific was cited.

On the matter of electronic submissions, Lochac will be trying full electronic submissions; the codes for each color will be determined and then we may be able to use the coding information and go to full electronic submission. We will be watching Lochac to see how it goes and what problems may evolve.

New heralds and interested visitors were encouraged to learn heraldry by helping a branch herald and coming to monthly meetings.



VOICE HERALDRY: Greencloak will continue to hold voice heraldry training sessions at the beginning of events to encourage involvement at the event.

MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Moira at herald@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds' website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm. There is a colored version and a printer-friendly black and white version available.

The office of Brachet is currently vacant, no Brachet meetings are being held.


The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.

LoAR (October 2013 – sent out Dec 5, 2014)

Cover letter

From Laurel: Habemus Pelicanum (Juliana has a successor)

At their October meeting, the Board of Directors approved Laurel's appointment of Lillia de Vaux as Pelican Queen of Arms, effective January 2014. Juliana and Lillia will split the decision-making for December 2013 and January 2014, with Lillia taking over all duties for February. Lillia lives in the East Kingdom, where she has served as Eastern Crown and as Diademe Herald. She's been an active commenter and leader in the College of Arms since 2009. We look forward to working with her and to letting Juliana take at least a brief break before she finds another project to keep her busy.

From Pelican: Some Name Resources (an ongoing series)

This week I was asked why we can't mix and match household name patterns: that is, combine designators from one pattern and substantive elements from another.

Let's start with the rules. SENA says:

The designators for household names must be documented as a form describing a group of people in a particular culture. It must be compatible with the substantive element in terms of content and style. There is no standard designator which is considered compatible with all types of names for groups of people.

Several kinds of groups of people have served as models for household names. They include a noble household, a military unit, a guild, a group of people associated with an inn or tenement house, a university or school (noting that the word college is reserved for branches), clans, and an organized group of musicians or actors. Designators may be registered in the original language or may take the lingua Anglica form. Suitable substantive elements (like simple descriptions) may take the lingua Anglica form as well.

So, essentially what this says is that a household name can follow pretty much any pattern for a group of people or for patterns for places that hold a group of people, like an inn, dormitory, or abbey. But each of these kinds of household names follows different models, and the entire household name has to follow a single model.

The reason we allow multiple designators for household names, instead of requiring all to use a single designator like house, is to allow for better recreation. Thus, submitters can create household groups that follow models of religious groups, groups of scholars, or military groups, as well as a group of people associated with a noble house. However, that same logic demands that we require the names of households to be internally consistent. You cannot name a household X Abbey but use a model from a brothel to create the rest of the name (no, I don't know models for the names of period brothels). You cannot name a household using a designator for a military company but use a model from a college to create the rest of the name.

Now, we do allow household names, both the designator and the substantive element, to be translated into English using the lingua Anglica allowance: the French l'ostel du B{oe}uf couronné may be registered as House of the Crowned Bull or the German Gesellschaft im Fisch und Falckhen may be registered as the Society of the Fish and Falcon. As with other uses of the lingua Anglica allowance, names may be translated to make them as comprehensible to English speakers as they would be to the speakers of the original language (French, Italian, Old Norse, and the like). Remember that this does not allow the translation of the meanings of personal names or place names; personal names must stay in their original forms, while place names may use their standard modern English form.

Branch names follow a slightly different rule, in part because we require branches to use specific designators which can change as a branch's status changes. We allow any type of branch to use the name of a place of essentially any size, from a small village to a large city or region. Alternately, we allow branches to use a model suitable to their particular designator. This mostly affects colleges and other specialized branches that are unlikely to change type; however, we allow them to change type of branch as well.

From Wreath: No More Elongated Mullets and Modern Drop Spindles

We had two submissions this month that featured a mullet elongated palewise. We have no evidence that such artistic treatment of a mullet was ever done in period armory at all, and we grant no difference between a mullet and a mullet elongated palewise.

However, we do have period evidence of mullets elongated to base (i.e., only the basemost ray is stretched out), but those appear to be a variant of a comet, not normal mullet. An example of such a comet can be seen in the 16th century Italian armorial Insignia Nobilium Patavinorum, BSB Cod.icon. 275, on f.65r (found at http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/bsb00001422/image_137).

Therefore, as we would like to avoid confusion between comets and mullets, mullets elongated palewise will no longer be registerable after the April 2014 decision meetings.

As for modern drop spindles, that charge with its wide whorl, triangular cop, and often a hook at the upper end was declared to be a step from period practice in November 2007. It will likewise no longer be allowed after the April 2014 decision meetings. Submitters should instead use a period drop spindle instead, which has a much smaller whorl, an ovoid cop, and no pronounced hook. An example can be seen in Virgil Raber's Wappenbuch, 1548 (found at http://bilderserver.at/wappenbuecher/VirgilRaberEXAv2_52z2/, page 118/119).

West Acceptances - October LoAR

Bébinn ingen Chonchobair. Name and device. Per pale azure and sable, an elephant passant and on a chief argent an ivy vine vert.

Submitted as Bébinn ingen Conchobair, the patronym must be lenited, making it Chonchobair. We have changed the name to that form in order to register it.

Gregor Hawke. Name. Nice 14th century English name!

Helias de Stigata. Name and device. Argent, a phoenix face to sinister gules and in chief an increscent and a decrescent sable.

Commenters questioned whether the change from Helias Stigata to Helias de Stigata was authorized by the submitter; that change was explicitly allowed on the form.

Isabella Hawke. Name and device. Purpure, a natural panther sejant contourny between three hawk's legs erased à la quise belled and jessed argent.

Nice late period English name!

Michel von Schiltach. Name.

Nice 15th century German name!

West Returns - October LoAR


LOAR: (November 2013 – sent out Jan 1, 2014)

Cover Letter

From Laurel: Job Opening - Wreath Sovereign of Arms

The Wreath Sovereign of Arms is an educational deputy of the Laurel Principal Sovereign of Arms, responsible for the consideration of and decisions concerning armory submitted for registration by the College of Arms.

Wreath is an unpaid position, currently requiring approximately 20 hours a week. Some knowledge of period heraldry is useful; knowledge of SCA heraldry is essential. The position requires considerable tact and patience, research and reasoning ability, a clear understanding of the Rules for Submission and past Laurel rulings, the ability to write clearly and succinctly, the ability to work within tight deadlines and coordinate closely with Pelican, Laurel and other staff to produce a Laurel Letter of Acceptance and Return monthly, computer literacy and word processing skills, reliable e-mail and telephone access, and time and ability to travel. Given the current structure of the office, a high-speed internet connection is highly useful but it is not required.

Resumés must be sent electronically to Laurel at bids@heraldry.sca.org. Resumés must be received by Saturday, March 31, 2014, with an expected start date of June 2014.

From Pelican: Alternative Titles in Dutch

In August 2013, Schwarzdrachen pointed out that some of our current Dutch alternative titles were inappropriate and suggested appropriate period forms. Thanks to Schwarzdrachen for her hard work.

For Lady, the current alternate title is Gebiedster. This is a rare modern word, whose meaning is more like "mistress" than lady. We are removing this item from the Alternate Titles List. Its replacements are Vrouwe (for married women) and Joncvrouwe (for unmarried women), which were used in period as titles (that is, before given names or whole names) in contexts that are equivalent to Latin Domina.

For Lord, the current alternate title is Gebieder, again an uncommon modern word. We are removing this item from the Alternate Titles List. Its replacement is her or heer, which is used before names for minor noblemen.

For Sir, the current alternate title is Mijnheer, which is actually equivalent to Milord. We are removing this item from the Alternate Titles list, and encouraging this as a Dutch form equivalent to Milord. Its replacement is Ser, which is the period form equivalent to Sir.

From Pelican: Some Name Resources (an ongoing series)

After a digression, I am returning to our trip through Eastern and Central Europe. This month, I want to talk about German languages and naming practice. First, a reminder: Germany as a country only came into existence in the 19th century. Before that "the Germanies" were a grouping of smaller units bound together in the confines of the Holy Roman Empire (which as the joke goes, was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire). This entity extended in the west to include the Low Countries (Belgium, the Netherlands, and Luxembourg), in the east to Poland, and in the south through Austria and Switzerland into Italy. Not surprisingly, residents of many of those areas speak some kind of German to this day (though those of the Low Countries do not).

We divide up the dialects spoken in this area into two language groups: High German and Low German. High German is the modern standard national language of Germany, and was always found mainly in central and southern Germany. It is also the national language of Austria and one of the national languages of Switzerland. In the Middle Ages, the various dialects of High German were quite different, with Swiss German particularly different from the German of Nürnberg. Some scholars consider northern dialects of this language Middle German, but in the SCA we consider those dialects part of High German.

Low German is another Germanic language, spoken along the northern coast of Germany. It's called "Low" because it's the language of the lowlands. Historically, it was the language spoken in all the coastal areas controlled by "Germans:" Poland, Lithuania, and even parts of Russia. It was the language of the Hanseatic League.

While these languages and the naming pools that go with them are different, the naming pools are related in ways that make it hard for the non-expert to always distinguish between them. Published books on German names (like Bahlow and Brechenmacher) rarely distinguish Low German and High German names. An expert reader can identify which names are which: sometimes by recognizing spelling or grammar associated with one language or the other, at other times by noting the location in which the name was recorded and identifying that area as speaking Low or High German. As this is too high a standard to hold submitters (or submission heralds) to, we treat Low and High German as part of a single language pool under SENA. However, we will continue to distinguish between the two for purposes of authenticity requests.

Next month, we'll put this into practice, with some recommended articles for information on High German and Low German names.

From Wreath: Required Elements and Style Rules

A submission this month included the motif of an X within a laurel wreath. We regard this as being two separate charge groups, typically a primary charge surrounded by a secondary laurel wreath. By long-standing precedent, two separate charge groups may not be placed as tertiary charges on the same underlying charge. This is repeated in SENA Appendix I, which states that "A single charge group may only have one tertiary charge group on it." Without documentation of this sort of pattern in period, placing this motif on an underlying charge is not ordinarily registerable.

We do, however, recognize the inherent difficulty in design as a laurel wreath is required in all branch arms. A crown or coronet is additionally required for kingdoms, and optionally for principalities. We have long relaxed some of the style rules for augmentations. SENA A3A3 explains, "Because an augmentation adds complexity, augmented devices are often allowed to violate certain style rules, such as allowing charges on tertiary charges or a complexity count of greater than eight, as long as the identifiability of the design is maintained. However, they may not violate the rules on contrast." Because required elements add complexity to an armorial design, we are similarly willing on a case by case basis to allow branch armory with required elements to violate certain style rules, as long as identifiability of the design is maintained.

From Wreath: Frauenadler and Harpies

We had several submissions this month featuring a frauenadler. A frauenadler, a typically German charge, is displayed by default and consists of the head and torso of a beautiful woman with an eagle's body and wings. Frauenadler is both a singular and plural word. A similar period charge, the harpy in English armory, faces dexter by default, and consists of only a woman's head, frequently with frightful hair, with a bird's body. While we grant no difference between the two for type, we do grant difference for posture. For better reproducibility, we have reblazoned some older submissions in which frauenadler were blazoned as harpies.

From Palimpsest: Changes to SENA

The August 18th Palimpsest Letter proposed 5 changes to SENA: one to bring the rules in alignment with prior precedent regarding charges whose voiding is considered part of their type; three to bring the rules in alignment with newer precedent regarding "Company" as a designator; and one to clarify temporal compatibility requirements for languages/cultures not listed in Appendix C. All of these proposals are being implemented (some with minor editing for clarity). Voided Charges

Section A.3.C, by implying that mullets of any number of points could be voided and interlaced as part of their type, inaccurately reflected precedent and this was not intentional. Therefore, we are changing the next to last paragraph of SENA A.3.C, effective immediately, to read:

Charges which are voided as part of their type, such as mascles, rustres, or mullets of five points or six points voided and interlaced, are not affected by these restrictions. They may even be tertiary charges or maintained charges, and may be used in fieldless designs.

The remainder of A.3.C remains unchanged.

Company as Designator

On the May 2013 LoAR Cover Letter, Pelican ruled that "company and other similar words" should be allowed as designators for any suitable non-personal name, including both order and award names and household names. Thus we are making three changes to reflect this ruling.

We are changing SENA NPN.1.B.2, effective immediately, to read:

2. Order and Award Designators: The designators for order names must follow a documented pattern for medieval order names. The standard designators are Order and Award. Any pattern suitable for one such designator is suitable for the other. These designators may take the lingua Anglica form, using the forms above regardless of the language of the substantive phrase. Alternately, they may take the language of the substantive element. A list of some translations of these designators is listed in Appendix E; any other designators should be documented. In general, designators which are used for household and association names cannot be used for orders and awards; however, those which were used in period to refer to multiple kinds of groups of people, including both those that we would call households and those that we would call orders, such as company, may be used for either.

For example, either Order of the Levrier or Ordre du Levrier is registerable for the meaning 'order of the hound', but Order du Levrier and Ordre of the Levrier are not; in each one, the preposition and article do not match the language of the designator.

For example, Company of the Levrier is registerable as a household name or as an award or order name as Company was used in period for military groups, guilds, and knightly orders. However, House of the Levrier would only be registerable as a household name, as House was not a term used for orders or awards.

We are changing SENA NPN.1.B.3, effective immediately, to read:

3. Household and Association Names: The designators for household names must be documented as a form describing a group of people in a particular culture. It must be compatible with the substantive element in terms of content and style. There is no standard designator which is considered compatible with all types of names for groups of people.

Several kinds of groups of people have served as models for household names. They include a noble household, a military unit, a guild, a group of people associated with an inn or tenement house, a university or school (noting that the word college is reserved for branches), clans, and an organized group of musicians or actors. Designators may be registered in the original language or may take the lingua Anglica form. Suitable substantive elements (like simple descriptions) may take the lingua Anglica form as well. In general, designators which are used within the SCA for orders and awards cannot be used for household and association names; however, other than "Order", those which were used to refer to multiple kinds of groups of people, including both those that we would call households and those that we would call orders, such as company, may be used for either.

For example, either Compagnia di Santa Lucia or Company of Santa Lucia is registerable for the meaning 'company of Saint Lucia, but Company di Santa Lucia and Compagnia of Santa Lucia are not; in each one, the preposition and article do not match the language of the designator.

For example, Compagnia di Santa Lucia is registerable as a household name or as an order name as Compagnia was used in period for military groups, guilds, and knightly orders. However, Order of Santa Lucia is registerable as an award or order name, but not a household name.

We are changing the initial paragraph of SENA Appendix E, section B, effective immediately, to read:

B. Award and Order Names: The appropriate English and lingua Anglica forms for order names are Award and Order. Terms like Companions and Defenders are not registerable as designators for orders and awards. Companions can be used to describe the members of an order, but such terms were not used in order names, and will not be registered. Defenders may be used in the substantive element of an order, but may not be registered as a designator. However, Company is allowed as the designator both for award and order names and for household and association names, as it was used in period to refer to multiple kinds of groups of people, including both those that we would call households and those that we would call orders.

The remainder of Appendix E, section B remains unchanged.

Temporal Compatibility

SENA PN.2.C. as currently written does not address the temporal compatibility required for languages not listed in Appendix C. We are changing PN.2.C.2.a to explicitly say that they must be within 500 years and from a single language (rather than regional naming group).

We are changing SENA PN.2.C.2.a, effective immediately, to read:

a. The name mixes name phrases, dated to within 500 years of one another, either found in a single regional naming group as listed in Appendix C, or else from a single language not listed in Appendix C.

The remainder of PN.2.C remains unchanged.

WEST Acceptances – November LoAR

Debrangal Greyheart. Reblazon of device. Ermine, an open penannular brooch inverted Or, a mount vert.
Blazoned when registered in January 1973 as Ermine, above a mount vert a penannular brooch, tongue pendant, Or, we are clarifying the primary charge and orientation of the brooch.

Lira of Ascalon. Reblazon of device. Gules, a frauenadler and a chief rayonny argent.

Blazoned when registered in February 1991 as Gules, a harpy displayed and a chief rayonny argent, this is a frauenadler. Please see this month's Cover Letter for a discussion of this charge.

Raymond the Gruesome. Reblazon of device. Azure, in pale a sun-wheel bendwise conjoined to a curule chair Or.

Blazoned when registered in August 1977 as Azure, a sun-wheel ensigning a curule chair Or, we are clarifying the arrangement of the charges.

Southern Shores, Province of. Reblazon of device. Per bend azure and Or, a seagull volant bendwise argent and a laurel wreath vert.

Blazoned when registered in January 1973 as Per bend azure and Or, a seagull rising argent and a laurel wreath vert, the seagull is volant, not rising.

Üta Kathrina Felhamer. Reblazon of device. Or, a frauenadler gules, on a chief sable three crescents Or.

Blazoned when registered in October 2010 as Or, a harpy displayed gules, on a chief sable three crescents Or, this is a frauenadler. Please see this month's Cover Letter for a discussion of this charge.

WEST Returns – November LoAR


In Service,
Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym ap Morgan o Erryrys,
Matins Herald

SUBMISSONS – 6 January, XLVII (2014)


Annabell WoodGules, on a pale between six cinquefoils argent, a drop spindle gules. (NEW name and device)
(Fieldless) On a drop spindle gules a cinquefoil argent. (NEW badge)

Annabell appears in “A List of Feminine Personal Names Found in Scottish Records”, http://heraldry.sca.org/names/scottishfem.html, under “Post 1400 Names” cited to 1589 [FORBES, 271].

Wood appears in Black, Surnames of Scotland, p. 822: “Local, from residence near a wood (OE. wudu). The name appears first in record in the Latinized form de Bosco (see BOYCE). . . . Ade Wood in Garvald and Roger Wode in Louchurde were tenants under Douglas, 1376 (RHM, i , p. lvii; n, p. 16).”

Device: Appears clear of Canada (Laurel 1994, Flag of Canada) Gules, on a pale argent a maple gules. There are 2 DCs for addition of secondaries and change of type of tertiary.

Badge: No conflicts found.

Haley an Eich Gil – Argent crusilly sable, a seahorse vert. (RESUB of device)

Device: Her previous submission, Argent estencely sable, a sea-horse vert, was returned for a redraw on the October 2011 LoAR, “for violating section VII.7.a of the Rules for Submissions which requires that "Elements must be recognizable solely from their appearance." The estencely here is depicted as groups of three lozenges, two and one, rather than the expected depiction of groups of three roundels, one and two. The size of the lozenges here made them difficult to identify, as would be expected, and there has been no evidence presented, nor could any be found by commenters, of estencely of lozenges instead of roundels.”

This resubmission changes the problematic estencely to crusilly. There appear to be no conflicts.

Hrafna-Kára(Fieldless) On a raven close sable a valknut argent (NEW badge)

Badge: This is a resubmission to Kingdom. On her previous submission, the tertiary was composed of an indescribable arrangement of three horns. While she had submitted six suggested alternatives, all of them had problems. We opted to return the badge for further consultation. This submission is the result. No conflicts were found.

Irina Antonova zhena BarsukaPer pale purpure and argent, on a chevron four pawprints and in base a patriarchal cross, all counterchanged. (NEW name and device)

This is a resubmission to Kingdom. This lady has submitted several different names which were returned for various reasons, primarily lack of documentation. She wishes to be known as the wife of Anton Barsuk. All of the name documentation is found in the various sections of “Paul Goldschmidt's Dictionary of Period Russian Names.” (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/paul/)

Irina (mother of Mikhail) is found dated in 866, Iriniia is found in the 13th-14th Century, and Irin'ia (wife of Isaiia Elenteevits') in 1467. (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/paul/h-j.html)

Anton is a Russian masculine given name (s.n. Antonii), shows up as an Anton Sholukha as a Vinnitsa craftsman from 1552. (http://heraldry.sca.org/paul/a.html)

Barsuk is a Russian masculine given name. It is attested to as an Ivan Barsuk, a Ratnensk peasant from 1565, which also shows the pattern of the hysband’s name as a whole. (http://heraldry.sca.org/paul/ba.html)

Zhena is the Russian word for wife. According the grammar section, Antonova zhena Barsuka is one of the possible constructions of “wife of Anton Barsuk.” It is the form Irina wishes to register. (http://heraldry.sca.org/names/paul/zgrammar.html)

Device: Her previous device submission was returned as slot-machine heraldry. This submission clears up that problem, but was held at Kingdom until a documentable name was submitted. While there is a “step from period practice” for using the pawprints, it otherwise appears clear of conflict.

Katelin CameronPurpure, a tiger rampant to sinister argent marked sable, a bordure embattled argent. (NEW name and device)

Katelin – As Katelin, dated to 1198, and Katelina, dated to 1275, this name is found in Talan Gwynek’s “Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames, Part Three: The Names H-Z”; http://heraldry.sca.org/names/reaneyHZ.html.

Cameron is found in Black, The Surnames of Scotland, pp. 128-129. “The name of the Camerons of the Lowlands is of territorial origin, from one of three places so named: (1) Cameron near Edinburgh; (2) Cameron in Lennox; (3) Cameron (of old, Camberone), a parish in Fife, the principal if not the only source of the Lowland surname. . . . Johannes de Cameron, presbyter and canon of St. Andrews, who petitioned for office of prior of Lochleven, 1421 (Wyntoun, Chronicle, i, p. xxxiv), may be John Cameroun who was prepositus of the Collegiate Church of Linclowdane, 1425 (Soltre, p. 295). Another John Cameron appears as burgess of Aberdeen, 1434 (CRA., p. 5).”

SENA, App. C, seems to indicate that English and Scots may be combined. Thus, this name should be acceptable.

Device: No conflicts found.

Tangwistel TelynoresPer bend sinister nebuly Or and azure, two harps counterchanged. (NEW device)

Device: No conflicts found.

Thorir KrakiPer chevron Or and sable, two ravens displayed and a wolf passant counterchanged. (NEW DEVICE)

Device: This submission is a resubmission to Kingdom. His prior submission was essentially the same, but the birds had stripes and were at flying at odd angles, and a very strange looking wolf was either walking or standing to sinister. We returned it for redrawing to clear up these problems. This submission does that.

No conflicts found. While the per chevron line doesn’t quite meet the current standards, we felt that it wasn’t so bad as to warrant yet another return for redrawing. An instruction to the submitter to draw the division line more acutely and slightly lower on the device should take care of the problem.


No returns.

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