Minutes of the January, 2010 Heralds Meeting

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The meeting was held on Sunday, 10 January 2010, at 12th Night in Concord, CA. The meeting started at 11 am and ended at 12:47 pm. In attendance at this meeting were: Owen ap Morgan, Latimer; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Moira O’Connor, Greencloak; Elysant atten Oke, Sable Swan; Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym, Brachet; Nara’ah bat Avraham, Banner; Wilhelm von Homburg, Baldric; Frederick of Holland, Maxen Dawel ap Morgan, Eilis O'Boirne, Pursuivants; Muriel, Seawolf; Volker von dem Walde, Acting PE for Danegeld Tor; Leon von Schrecken; Johanna Ludwiger von Hertesbergk, PE for Esfenn; Jared of Castlewood; Aldith Angharad St. George, Pursuivant Extraordinaire; and Astrið of Swansvale, Matins.

The meeting schedule in 2010 is January 10, March 7, April 18, May 16, and June 27, 2010. Meetings start at noon, unless otherwise announced. There will be no meeting in February or July, 2010.

Spring Heraldic Collegium will be held on Saturday, March 6, 2010.

Meetings start at noon, unless otherwise announced.

In general, meetings will be held at Eilis’ house (2322 Russell Street, Berkeley CA 94705; 510-486-0633 -- call for directions). “Road show” meetings will be announced well in advance.

Anyone who is bringing a walk-in submission should contact Matins in advance, no later than the Monday before the meeting. This is especially important if the submitter has previous submissions, since the files are stored in a remote location. If you are bringing the paperwork for a submission to a meeting, please plan to arrive by 11:00 am to allow the file to be set up.

We are researching some of the name submissions beforehand through an email list, wknames@yahoogroups.com. This list is open by request to heralds in the West Kingdom who are interested in onomastic (name) research. To join the list, please subscribe at wknames-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.



Vigdis, Vesper- Plans to step down in June and will be advertising for a successor in the next 4 months. The roster has been signed by Their Majesties.

Moira, Green Cloak Herald- Nothing since October 12th.

Nara’ah, Banner- courts happened.

Wilhelm, Baldric- na.

Astrið, Matins – Matins submissions have been made.

Owen, Latimer- No official consultation events. College is reviewing the process of submissions. LoARs are coming out much faster and one month taken off the submissions process. Needs additional help on consultation for the future. Not many people are using the un-line alternative, but a few are. Business card for signing up to help consult or to consult on your submission.

Consultation table will be at two Spring Coronets and March Crown. Collegium Occidentalis – full service consultation where submissions will be accepted at the table, on-line resources, photocopiers, artists. Special appearances on a limited basis – contact Latimer as far in advance as possible so that arrangements can be made.

Gwenhwyfaer, Brachet- been happening around move and remodeling.

Hirsch, Golem- website up and live. May revise consultation stuff to better assist consultation. Let him know if you have trouble finding something on the website. Awards list is working. Fill it out correctly. Drop-down list for some things. Awards given by both royalty, even if only one is actually present.

Muriel, Seawolf – branches have nothing significant to report. Looking for a deputy/successor to train. Looking input on a populace badge for the Mists.

Elysant, Sable Swan – Moira covering investiture. Has an approved successor, but if you are interested, still looking for deputies. A good thing to look more open by having others in a semi-official position.

Clare, Stella Nordica – no report.


From Matins Herald: Please note that the "line drawing" requirement for device submissions does NOT mean a b/w photocopy of the color form.

For name submissions, we need two copies of all name forms and all documentation source printouts and/or photocopies. For device and badge submissions, we need four colored copies plus an uncolored line outline. Please use colored felt tip markers. Please do not use colored pencil, pastel colors, crayons, color printers or color copiers. The artist's signature is required, but the submitter's signature is not required. If you are using restricted or non-standard elements or any other supplemental matters, we need two copies of your supplemental paperwork.

Please make sure that all submitters print their e-mail addresses clearly. A single mistaken letter makes the e-mail address useless.

We will continue to hold voice heraldry training sessions at the beginning of events to encourage involvement at the event.

Spring Collegium - pending

SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS: SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS: Submission fees are $6 per name, $6 per device, $6 per badge - and a name and device registered at the same time will cost $10 instead of $12. There is no fee for resubmission of a returned item. Submissions require 2 copies of the name packet (form and documentation), 3 colored copies and 1 line drawing of the full size device form, and 3 colored copies and 1 line drawing of the badge form, as applicable. Required documentation includes printouts of any web pages cited – including reports from the Academy of Saint Gabriel – as well as copies of the title page and cited pages from any books that are not standard heraldic references. The submission forms for the West Kingdom College are now available from Matins or the Kingdom consultation table or by following this link: http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Register.htm#Forms. Completed forms should be sent to Matins Herald (c/o Gretchen Lebednik / 2322 Russell St / Berkeley CA 94705).

MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Eilis and Vigdís at heralds@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds' website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm. There is a colored version and a printer-friendly black and white version available.

These meetings comment on heraldic submissions from other Kingdoms. The meetings are held on the second and fourth Mondays of each month at 7:00 pm at 4317 Alderwood Way, Sacramento, CA 95864. Call Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym for more information, (916) 323-4268 or email her, .

These meetings comment on heraldic submissions from other Kingdoms. Please consider attending – you do not have to be able to attend every week. They are a fast way to learn how the Rules of Submission work and how to research armory. The Brachet meetings are in Berkeley on Wednesday nights. If you are interested, contact the Matins Herald, Astrith of Swansvale (Gretchen Lebednik) at or Eilis at 510-486-0633.


The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Queen of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.

No new LoARs have been posted since the November meeting.

In Service,

Astrith of Swansvale
Matins Herald

SUBMISSONS – 10 January, XLIV (2010)


Brígh inghean uí Séaghdha - New Name Change From Holding Name

Old Item: Zelma of Thistletor, to be released.

Submitted as Bríg inghean ui Séaghdha, the submitter allows all changes and requests authenticity for c.1300 century Irish. We have changed <Bríg> to <Brígh> for temporal consistency and changed <ui> to <uí> for consistency in spelling. The name can be spelled either with or without accents, but should be consistent throughout.

The Middle Irish form is Brig and the Early Modern Irish form is Brigh. According to Ó Corrain and Maguire, s.n. Brig, say that the name was born by 13 saints. Therefore, Brig and Brigh are registerable because they are the forms of the name of a saint.

<inghean> is a later-period spelling of the Gaelic patronymic marker "daughter of". <uí> is the genitive form of <Ó> "descendant of".

Academy of Saint Gabriel Report #1698 states that the modern surname O'Shea derives from a Gaelic given name that was spelled Ségdae in the early Middle Ages and Séaghdha in the 13th and 14th centuries.

Woulfe lists the Irish <Ó Séaghdha>.

Collene de Beath – New Name & New Device

Per chevron gules and Or, on a chevron sable, three dragonflies Or, in base a frog gules.
Collene is the submitter's legal given name (copy of driver's license provided).

Beath was her maiden name, but is not her current legal name (per dreiver's license).

Black dates <de Beath> to 1231.

Johnston (Place-names of Scotland) lists <Beath>.

Giolla Phadraig O Seaghdha - New Name

Submitter requests authenticity for Irish 1300.

Submitted as Gilla P'atraic O Seaghdha, we have changed it to Giolla Phadraig O Seaghdha to meet the submitter's request for authenticity for c.1300 Irish and to make the use of accents - or lack thereof in this case - consistent.

In the Index of Names in Irish Annals (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mari/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/GiollaPhadraig.shtml), <Gilla Pátraic> is the form up to 1200 and <Giolla Phádraig> is the post-1200 form.

Academy of Saint Gabriel Report #1698 states that the modern surname O'Shea derives from a Gaelic given name that was spelled Ségdae in the early Middle Ages and Séaghdha in the 13th and 14th centuries.

Woulfe lists the Irish <Ó Séaghdha>.

Golden Playne - New Branch Name

A petition was included with the submission. The name documentation was prepared by Klement St. Christoph, OL (Acting Pursuivant for the Incipient Canton of Golden Playne) and is provided in its entirety below:

The branch name Golden Playne is formed on the pattern `toponym' + `surname', where Golden is the base toponym and Playne is a surnominal extension. In this type of con¬struction, the surname functions as an "ownership affix" (Elliott 1997: ¶ 36), indicating the family which held the manor. Hence, I call members of this particular subclass "manorial ownership affixes". Manorial ownership affixes constitue a reasonably common type of top¬onymic construction in England between the Norman Conquest and the end of the Elizabe¬than Age. As an indication of their frequency, Ekwall lists over a hundred of of them in just the first two letters of his Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Place-Names (1936/1960: 1-80). Of the various subtypes of manorial ownership affixes, the variant which has the surname as a separate word in second position is by far the most common. Approximately eighty-five such names are to be found in Eckwall (1936/1960) under the letters A and B alone (see appendix, § These manorial ownership affixes are regularly composed of an Anglo-Saxon toponym and a Norman French surname.

The toponym Golden is found in Ekwall, where it is documented to 1222. Golden is an Anglo-Saxon toponym meaning "slope and valley where marigold (OE golde) grew" (1936/1960: s.v. "Goldhanger"/"Golding").

The surname Playne is found in Reaney and Wilson (n.d.: s.v. "Plain. Playne, Plane"). They cite a Roger Playne from 1293 and identify the surname as deriving from the region of Eure in France.

Given that the particular type of manorial ownership affix found in Golden Playne was in use in England from at least 1198 on (cf. "Acton Burnill"), it seems reasonable to suppose that two suitable 13th-century names could combine in this way. The fact that the citations for the two chosen forms are dated only seventy-one years apart raises the likelihood that they are truly contemporary forms.

Finally, any question about the compatibility of the name elements based on the origin of the surname is laid to rest by Ekwall's citation of Bratton Clavyle. The surname Claville (apparently the modern orthography) originates from Eure (Ekwall 1936/1960: s.v. "Bratton Clovelly"), likewise the home of the French Plasnes, from which Playne derives.

In conclusion, the frequency of this type of manorial ownership affix combined with the temporal, geographical, and liguistic compatibility of the two name elements should make this particular construction acceptable within the Society for Creative Anachronism.

Lüthold von Altstadt - New Name & New Device

Sable, a sinister hand appaume, couped at the wrist, on a chief argent dovetailed, three ravens close sable
Bahlow's Dictionary of German Names, 2nd ed. on p. 303 under the header Leuthold, lists Lüthold Brsl. 14th century.

<Altstadt> is a constructed name following the pattern of , a German city founded in 1305.

The New Schoffler-Weis German and English Dictionary (copy was attached) translate "alt" as "old".

The submitter also cites a Wikipedia article that states: "Altstadt is the German language word for "old city", meaning "historical city centre within the city wall", in contrast to a Neustadt built outside later." [Available at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altstadt]

Brechenmacher on page 248 lists "Merath ful Lucklina Merretin Schleitstadt" and Heinr. Süderstadt" - examples of similar names ending in <-stadt>.

Saionji no Harae - New Name Change & New Badge

(Fieldless) In pall inverted, three fans, handles conjoined azure, each charged with a demi-roundel argent.
Old Item: Jehanne de Wodeford, to be retained.

Saionji translates as "Western garden temple". This locative name does not appear in Name Construction in Medieval Japan, however, its component elements can be found on pages 104 ("West"", "sai"), 142 ("Garden", "sono"), and 138 ("Buddhist temple", "ji") of the Revised Edition. The Saionji were a branch of the aristocratic Fujiwara family which rose to prominence in the 13th century. An excerpt from a chronicle by Perkins (1998 translation) about the Saionji family was attached to this submission.

Hanae: "hana" ("Flower") appears on p. 168 in Name Construction in Medieval Japan and "e" ("Inlet") appears on p. 151 of Name Construction in Medieval Japan




Academy of Saint Gabriel Report #1698

Bahlow, Hans. Deutsches Nameslexikon.

Black, George F. The Surnames of Scotland.

Brechenmacher, Josef Karlmann. Etymologisches Wörterbuch der Deutschen Familiennamen.

Ekwall, Eilert. The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Place-names.

Johnston, James R. Place-Names of Scotland.

O'Brienm Kathleen (Mari Elspeth nic Bryan. 2006. Index of Names in Irish Annals: Gilla Pátraic / Giolla Phádraig. [http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mari/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/GiollaPhadraig.shtml]

Ó Corrain and Maguire] Ó Corrain, Donnchadh & Maguire, Fidelma. Irish Names.

Reaney, P.H. and R. M. Wilson. A Dictionary of English Surnames.

Solveig Throndardottir. Name Construction in Mediaeval Japan

Woulfe, Patrick. Sloinnte Gaedheal is Gall: Irish Names and Surnames.

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