Minutes of the November, 2007 Herald's Meeting

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All heralds who are holding property of the College should send a list
of the property to Eilis by December 15.

Beginning with the January 2008 meeting, submission rates will be $6.00 per item
and $10.00 for a name and device submitted together.

The January Herald's meeting will be held at the Doubletree Hotel in San Jose.
January 6 -- the Sunday after 12th Night. Meeting will begin at 11 AM.



The meeting was held on Sunday, 18 November 2007, at Eilis O'Boirne's home in Berkeley. The meeting started at 12:35 pm and ended at 2:15 pm. In attendance at this meeting were: Eilis O'Boirne, Vesper; Owen ap Morgan, Latimer; Moira O'Connor, Greencloak; Walraven van Nijmegen, Exchequer to the College; Emma FitzWilliam, Acting Silver Gull Pursuivant; Art MacCeallaigh, Acting PE for Cloondara; Frederick of Holland, Felix MacAvady and Maxen ap Morgan, Pursuivants; Matilda FitzRichard, PE; Una inghean Conchobhair, visitor; and Vigdis vestfirzka, Matins.

The schedule for meetings in 2008 is January 6, February 3, March 16, April 13, May 18, June 8, August 16 (Saturday!), September 21, October 26 and November 16. Meetings start at noon. The January meeting will be at the Doubletree Hotel in San Jose.

The Spring Herald's Collegium has been expanded and is now the West Coast Voice Heraldry Collegium. It will be in Sacramento at the Holiday Inn Sacramento Northeast and will be March 15 and 16, 2008. More details will be published in the next few months.

In general, meetings will be held at Eilis’ house (2322 Russell Street, Berkeley CA 94705; 510-486-0633 -- call for directions). “Road show” meetings will be announced well in advance.

Anyone who is bringing a walk-in submission should contact Matins in advance, no later than the Monday before the meeting. This is especially important if the submitter has previous submissions, since the files are stored in a remote location. If you are bringing the paperwork for a submission to a meeting, please plan to arrive by 11:00 am to allow the file to be set up.

We are researching some of the name submissions beforehand through an email list, wknames@yahoogroups.com. This list is open by request to heralds in the West Kingdom who are interested in onomastic (name) research. To join the list, please subscribe at wknames-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.



These reports were made at the Heralds' Collegium on Saturday.

Vigdis Matins: Submissions through Oscar have been successful so far. Emma and Elysant are both training as clerks. Vigdis is still looking for a successor/deputy.

Na'arah, Banner: Planning for events going forward is going well. Na'arah is planning to check with all Baronial heralds to make sure that their baronial ceremony books are in order.

Astrith Brachet: While we are caught up on letters from other kingdoms, we need to train new book heralds.

Moira Greencloak: The past year has gone well. Moira is recruiting field heralds from among the knights and royalty not participating in the tourneys. There has been some difficulty getting duty heralds for last-minute shouts; next year we will publicize a schedule for shouts in advance and only do "off-schedule" announcements for true emergencies to avoid burning out volunteers.

Owen Latimer: The Consultation Table is doing steady business. There is a new banner indicating "open/closed", and the submission forms are now backed with the instructions. The Latimer Library is being upgraded. The biggest need is for more people to train in book heraldry.

Wilhelm Baldric: The Collegia held this year were successful, but under-attended. Planning is underway for the West Coast Voice Heraldry Collegium to be held in March 2008.

Hirsch Golem: The heralds' and awards websites are up to date. The awards list now includes drawings of registered devices where one is available. (Revised pictures can be sent to Hirsch for inclusion.) The Ceremony Book is up to date, and it is being converted to Word 2007, which may involve some changes to the layout. The sections of the Heralds' Handbook which have been revised will be updated on the website.

Gillian Seawolf: Investiture went off well. Working on new ceremonies and checking ceremony book for any needed revisions.

Wilhelm Sable Swan: The tourneys this year were successful, although the absence of certain key people was noticed. Elysant is Wilhelm's successor, and will take over the office in July.

Isabel Stellanordica: No report.

Eilis Vesper: All heralds who are holding property of the College should send a list of the property to Eilis by December 15.

Recruiting: In the next year, we will focus on recruiting, especially new book heralds. One of the things we will try is more local "commenting" meetings. One is planned for Silver Desert; we will publicize the ones in Golden Rivers and in the Mists more; we will look into establishing one in the South Bay. These are among the most effective training tools for book heralds we have. In terms of general recruiting, we should all be careful to be upbeat about the work of being a herald and not go on about how hard it is. (There has been a distinct change in attitude about taking offices when we pointed out that released officers skipping out of court and new officers being called suckers didn't exactly encourage people to take offices...) It was pointed out that THE HERALDS can be intimidating, and that it can be hard to know how to offer help. We will try to work on outreach, and we will consider moving the Consultation Table to merchants' row if a space can be made available. We will take submissions at March Crown if we can arrange the needed technological support


From Matins Herald: Please note that the "line drawing" requirement for device submissions does NOT mean a b/w photocopy of the color form.

For name submissions, we need two copies of all name forms and all documentation source printouts and/or photocopies. For device and badge submissions, we need four colored copies plus an uncolored line outline. Please use colored felt tip markers. Please do not use colored pencil, pastel colors, crayons, color printers or color copiers. The artist's signature is required, but the submitter's signature is not required. If you are using restricted or non-standard elements or any other supplemental matters, we need two copies of your supplemental paperwork.

Please make sure that all submitters print their e-mail addresses clearly. A single mistaken letter makes the e-mail address useless.

We will continue to hold voice heraldry training sessions at the beginning of events to encourage involvement at the event.

The 2008 Known World Heraldic and Scribes Symposium will be held in the Kingdom of Drachenwald (London, England) on September 5-7, 2008.


SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS: SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS: Beginning with the January 2008 meeting, submission fees are $6 per name, $6 per device, $6 per badge - and a name and device registered at the same time will cost $10 instead of $12. There is no fee for resubmission of a returned item. Submissions require 2 copies of the name packet (form and documentation), 3 colored copies and 1 line drawing of the full size device form, and 3 colored copies and 1 line drawing of the badge form, as applicable. Required documentation includes printouts of any web pages cited – including reports from the Academy of Saint Gabriel – as well as copies of the title page and cited pages from any books that are not standard heraldic references. The submission forms for the West Kingdom College are now available from Matins or the Kingdom consultation table or by following this link: http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Register.htm#Forms. Completed forms should be sent to Matins at the College address.

MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Eilis at heralds@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

These meetings comment on heraldic submissions from other Kingdoms. Please consider attending – you do not have to be able to attend every week. They are a fast way to learn how the Rules of Submission work and how to research armory. The Brachet meetings are in Berkeley on Wednesday nights. If you are interested, contact the Brachet Herald, Astrith of Swansvale (Gretchen Lebednik) at or Eilis at 510-486-0633.

A training and commenting meeting is being held in Cynagua to promote and encourage interest in book heraldry and raise the level of general heraldic knowledge along the eastern side of the kingdom. The meetings are held on the second and fourth Mondays of each month at 7:00 pm at 4317 Alderwood Way, Sacramento, CA 95864. Call Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym for more information, (916) 323-4268 or email her, ginni.morgan@doj.ca.gov.

West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds’ website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm. There is a colored version and a printer-friendly black and white version available.

A Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry as Used in the Society for Creative Anachronism (by Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme and Akagawa Yoshio) is available by sending $15 to Bruce Miller, 728 Erica Place, Oxnard, CA 93030, (805) 278-0135.


The LoAR for July 2007 was published in October 2007. The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by Lady Laurel, please be sure to visit the site.

WEST - Acceptances - July 2007
(March 2007 LoI)

Colyne Jak Leslie. Name.

This name uses a double-given name in a Scots name. This is one step from period practice.

Helen of Avebury. Name and device. Or, a dragonfly vert within a bordure wavy sable.

Originally submitted as Helen of Avebury, the name was changed at kingdom to Heleyne de Aveburia, a 13th C form of the given name with a Latinized locative byname to comply for the submitter's request for an authentic 12th-14th C name; Helen is an expected vernacular spelling of the name. Albion notes, "Watts [Cambridge Dictionary of English Place-Names, Based on the Collections of the English Place-Name Society], s.n. Avebury has the following forms: <Avesbiria>, <-beria>, <-byry> 1114-1256, <Aveberia>, <-biri>, <-biry>, <-bery>, <-bury> c. 1180-1332, <Avenesbur'> 1255, <Avenebyr'> 1268, <Abury> 1386..." Given evidence that the originally submitted form is an authentic 14th C English name, we have changed the name back to the originally submitted form.

Jennet of Twominds. Reblazon of device. Per pale argent and sable, a sun in his splendor per pale sable and argent eclipsed counterchanged.

Registered in March 1975 with the blazon Per pale argent and sable, a sun in his splendor throughout of the field, rayed and featured counterchanged, the tinctures of the various portions of the sun were unclear. The central portion of the sun is per pale argent and sable; the rays (and facial features) are per pale sable and argent. The sun is not throughout, as the original blazon made it appear.

Merewyn of Ynys Taltraeth. Device. Argent, a bat-winged amphisbaena vert, a base engrailed barry engrailed azure and argent.

Amphisbaenae have feathered wings by default; the one in this submission has bat-wings, a fact that must be explicitly blazoned.

Quentyn Arey. Name (see RETURNS for device).

Submitted as Quentyn Ayerie, the intended meaning of the byname was "nest of a bird of prey". No documentation was submitted and none found showing a pattern of English bynames or placenames based on an animal's lair or bird's nest. The submitter indicated that, if the name had to be changed, the sound "AY-REE" was most important to him. Reaney and Wilson, A Dictionary of English Surnames, s.n. Airey, derives this surname from a river name, and date the spelling Arey to 1522. We have changed the name to Quentyn Arey in order to register it and to retain the sound requested by the submitter.

Ruaidhrí Mac Diarmada. Name.

Stuart of Lindley. Reblazon of device. Azure, a sun argent eclipsed sable, a chief argent.

Registered in January 1986 with the blazon Azure, a sun eclipsed sable, a chief argent, the tincture of the sun was omitted.

Susannah of Ely. Name and device. Azure fretty Or, semy of eels erect contourny tails involved argent.

Originally submitted as Susannah of Ely, the name was changed at kingdom to Susanna of Ely, because no documentation had been found for the spelling Susannah in period. The spelling Susannah appears dated to 1598 and 1600, in Aryanhwy merch Catmael "English Given Names from 16th and Early 17th Century Marriage Records" (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/english/parishes/parishes.html). Given these examples, we have changed the name back to the originally submitted form.

There was much discussion concerning these eels and whether or not they were identifiable as eels. In period armory a lot of eels were pretty much indistinguishable from snakes; you only knew they were eels because of the cant, as in the civic arms of Ahlen [Siebmacher 220]. In this case, the cant on Ely makes it clear these must be eels and thus we have retained the submitted blazon of eels.

Úlfr hinn sterki. Name.

Submitted as Kveld-Úlfur hinn sterki, the submitted requested an authentic Old Norse name. In the Old Norse period, the name Kveld-Úlfur appears to be unique:
"Kveldulfr av Ulfsgaard. Name. As Vesper notes, "Kveld-Ulfr" may well be a unique name like "Skalla-Grimr": the adjective "kveld" was added to the given name "Ulfr" for the grandfather of Egil Skallagrimsson, a famous berserker. He was apparently given the name because he only came alive in the evenings and possibly because he was considered b [sic] some to be a werewolf in actuality. (Some superstitious folk considered that the berserkers actually became their totemic animals in the heat of battle and Geirr Bassi lists "Kveld-Ulfr" only in his section on bynames, giving that meaning (p. 24)." [LoAR 10/1988]

While this name has been registered three times since then, no evidence was presented with any of these submissions showing that the name was not unique; as such, they are mistakes -- not precedent. We note that Úlfur appears to be an English translation of the Old Norse name Úlfr. The submitted noted that, if the name was not registerable as submitted, he would permit dropping the prepended byname. We have changed the name to Úlfr hinn sterki in order to register it. As registered, this is an authentic Old Norse name.

Zinaida Or"shinaia. Name.

Submitted as Zinaida Or'shinaia, the documentation for the byname shows Or"shinaia. Both ' and " are transcriptions for letters in the Library of Congress transcription system for Russian, the transcription system used for both elements in this name. The transcription ' represents the letter myagkeey znahk while " represents the letter tvyordiy znahk. We have changed the name to Zinaida Or"shinaia to match the documentation.

WEST - Returns - July 2007

Quentyn Arey. Device. Quarterly sable and gules, an oak tree eradicated and on a chief Or, three compass stars gules.

This submission was withdrawn by the submitter.

In Service,

Vigdís vestfirzka
Matins Herald

SUBMISSONS – 9 September, XLII (2007)


Anna de Serra     (Golden Rivers)     New Name and New Device

Gules, in pale a sunflower and a bee Or.
The submitter will not accept major changes to her name.

Anna is from "Feminine Given Names" from the Online Catasto of Florence of 1427

de Serra is from the Journal of the Abruzzo World Club: 1800 Surnames Recorded in 1447 by N. F. Faraglia

We feel that this is clear of the flag of Macedonia: Gules, a sun Or, which is also blazoned as Gules, a sun of eight straight rays throughout Or.

Annora Raines     (Fettburg)     New Name
The submitter will not accept major changes to her name.

Annora is on p.154-155 of Withycombe at the header Honoria and is dated to 1187.

Raines is on p.370 of Reaney at the header Raines dated to the Domesday Book.

Sarah Wydville     (Windy Meads)     New Device
Per fess argent and paly argent and sable, in canton a rose, a bordure sable.
Submitter's name was registered December 2002.

Uther Schiemann der Hunt     (Prov. Mists)     New Badge
Per saltire gules and sable, a cross gurgity Or.
Submitter's name was registered June 2003.


Aelesia Marschal     (Tarnmist)     Return of Device

Azure, three catamounts rampant argent, in chief an increscent Or.
Submitter's name was registered April 2005.

Need a redraw of the "cats" They look more like wolves except for the head. A cat's tail should be smooth all the way down. No conflicts found.

Cormac Kane     (Thistletor)     Resubmission of Device to Kingdom
Per chevron gules and Or, in chief an oak tree eradicated and a treskelion and in base a Celtic dog head counterchanged.
His previous submission was in August 2007. The device is still not drawn heraldically. It is also still three unrelated charges on a field. Additionally, the submitter believes that what was sent was two charges on a "chief indented" and one on the filed, however it looks more like a too shallow per chevron division.

Úlfr hinn sterki     (Eskalya)     New Device
Gyronny of six argent and sable, three Thor's hammer gules and three valknuts Or.
Submitter's name was registered July 2007.

Need a redraw of the gyronny and the valknuts The gyronny should be even, and the valknuts are drawn extremely thin-line.

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