Minutes of the April, 2007 Herald's Meeting

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The meeting was held on Sunday, 15 April 2007, at Eilis O'Boirne's home in Berkeley. The meeting started at 12:25 pm and ended at 4:20 pm. In attendance at this meeting were: Eilis O'Boirne, Vesper; Frederick of Holland, Banner; Edith Laufare, Seawolf; Owen ap Morgan, Latimer; Hirsh von Henford, Golem; Astrith of Swansvale, Brachet; Vigdís vestfirzka, Sable Quill; Walraven van Nijmegen, Exchequer to the College; Maxen ap Morgan, and Na'arah bat Avraham, Pursuivants at Large; Hrothgeirr Hroaldsson, Guest; Aldith Angharad St. George Artist, and Kiriana Michaelson, Matins.

The upcoming meetings are: are May 13, June 10, July 8, September 9, October 21 and November 18. Meetings start at noon. The Fall Herald's Collegium will be November 17. The Known World Heraldic and Scribal Symposium in CAID is June 14-17.

In general, meetings will be held at Eilis’ house (2322 Russell Street, Berkeley CA 94705; 510-486-0633 -- call for directions). “Road show” meetings will be announced well in advance.

Anyone who is bringing a walk-in submission should contact Matins in advance, no later than the Thursday before the meeting. This is especially important if the submitter has previous submissions, since the files are stored in a remote location. If you are bringing the paperwork for a submission to a meeting, please plan to arrive by 11:00 am to allow the file to be set up.

We are researching some of the name submissions beforehand through an email list, wknames@yahoogroups.com. This list is open by request to heralds in the West Kingdom who are interested in onomastic (name) research. To join the list, please subscribe at wknames-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.


Submission Forms - As of May 2007, Laurel is requiring all submissions to be made on the new submission forms. No old forms will be accepted after May 2007. The new forms are on the Kingdom web site NOW. There are a number of changes on the new forms.

Name Form - If you check the authentic box, your name will be changed to be authentic even if it would otherwise be passable in its submitted form. The forms no longer have a place for alternate names. Badge Form - The badge form is now square. Branch Name Form - There is now a separate Branch Name Form to remind branches of the need for a petition, etc.

New instructions are being prepared for distribution with the new forms. We are making some changes to our submission procedures to accommodate changes by Laurel, such as requiring a line drawing for devices and badges to allow scanning into OSCAR.

For name submissions, we need two copies of all name forms and all documentation source printouts and/or photocopies. For device and badge submissions, we need four colored copies plus an uncolored line outline. Please use colored felt tip markers. Please do not use colored pencil, pastel colors, crayons, color printers or color copiers. The artist's signature is required, but the submitter's signature is not required. If you are using restricted or non-standard elements or any other supplemental matters, we need two copies of your supplemental paperwork.

Wilhelm von Homburg, Baldric Herald, will be speaking with A&S about allowing the College of Heralds sponsor the A&S pavilion at a Crown or Coronation so that we can hold classes for the general populace to help encourage the heraldic arts and a greater understanding of the basic rules. We will continue to hold voice heraldry training sessions at the beginning of events to encourage involvement at the event.

The next Known World Heraldic and Scribes Symposium will be in CAID. If you fill your car will heralds to attend, the College will assist with gas money.



SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS: Submission fees are $8 per name, $8 per device, $8 per badge – and a name and device registered at the same time will cost $15 instead of $16. There is no fee for resubmission of a returned item. Submissions require 2 copies of the name form and documentation, 4 colored copies and 1 black and white of the device form, and 4 colored copies and 1 black and white of the badge form, as applicable. Required documentation includes printouts of any web pages cited – including reports from the Academy of Saint Gabriel – as well as copies of the title page and cited pages from any books that are not standard heraldic references. The submission forms for the West Kingdom College are now available from Matins or the Kingdom consultation table or by following this link: http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Register.htm#Forms. Completed forms should be sent to Matins at the College address.

MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Eilis at heralds@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

These meetings comment on heraldic submissions from other Kingdoms. Please consider attending – you do not have to be able to attend every week. They are a fast way to learn how the Rules of Submission work and how to research armory. The Brachet meetings are in Berkeley on Wednesday nights. If you are interested, contact the Brachet Herald, Astrith of Swansvale (Gretchen Lebednik) at .

A training and commenting meeting is being held in Cynagua to promote and encourage interest in book heraldry and raise the level of general heraldic knowledge along the eastern side of the kingdom. The meetings are held on the second and fourth Mondays of each month at 7:00 pm at 4317 Alderwood Way, Sacramento, CA 95864. Call Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym for more information, (916) 323-4268 or email her, ginni.morgan@doj.ca.gov.

West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds’ website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm. There is a colored version and a printer-friendly black and white version available.

A Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry as Used in the Society for Creative Anachronism (by Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme and Akagawa Yoshio) is available by sending $15 to Bruce Miller, 728 Erica Place, Oxnard, CA 93030, (805) 278-0135.

The LoAR for December 2006 was published in early April 2007, but we have no submission as we did not have a meeting in August 2006. The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by Lord Laurel, please be sure to visit the site.

WEST - Acceptances - December 2006 - None.

WEST - Returns - December 2006 - None.

In Service,

Matins Herald

SUBMISSONS – 15 April, XLI (2007)


Anna Zen     (Winter's Gate)     Resubmission of Device to Kingdom

Per chevron azure and purpure, a chevron argent between two bears sejant erect respectant Or and a peach tree argent fructed Or.
This is a resubmission of the same device submitted in 10/06, but which we had to return for redrawing of the tree in base. In October, we found no conflict. The submitter has redrawn the tree and provided the requisite registration fee, which was missing in October.

Arabella McQuharg     (Darkwood)     New Name and Device

Purpure, on a fess bretessed argent between six acorns Or, three oak leaves fesswise vert.
Arabella is a feminine English given name found in Withycombe on p. 29 under the header spelling Arabel(la), dated to 1255 and 1575. McQuharg is a surname found in Black on p. 508 under the header spelling MacHarg, dated to 1572.

Arthur Greenwood     (Silver Desert)     New Name and Device

Quarterly vert and sable, a bear and a lion combattant argent.
The submitter desires a male name and will not accept major changes. Arthur is a masculine English given name found in Withycombe on p. 32, 33, in the form Arthurus dated to 1189. Reaney has Adam Arthur under the header Arthur on p. 15, dated to 1246. Greenwood is in Reaney on p. 205, under the header spelling Greenwood, citing John del Grenewode dated to 1275. Greenwood is a byname in the style of Greenhood dated to 1423 in Reaney on p. 204 under the header Greenhead and Greenleese dated to 1584 on p. 205 under the header Greenlees. The OED cites wood as a period word with "woods" for a collection of trees dating to 1598 and "wood of darts" as a figurative use from 1584. The surname is therefore a reasonably constructed surname.

Björn Helgason     (Winter's Gate)     New Badge

(Fieldless) A bull passant contourney maintaining in its mouth a pennant sable.
The submitter's name was included in the West Kingdom 2/07 LOI.

Brand McClellan     (Mists)     New Device

Per fess vert and Or, three compass stars elongated palewise and a demisun inverted counterchanged.
The submitter's name was registered in 8/02.

Cerridwen Coedwig     (Caer Darth)     Resubmission of Name and Device to Kingdom

Per fess argent and vert, two oak trees eradicated proper and a cat couchant guardant argent.
The submitter desires a female Welsh name and will not accept major changes. Cerridwen is SCA compatible given name according to Laurel Precedent (07.01 A-Calontir) "Submitted as Ceiridwen Bach, only the spellings Ceridwen and Cerridwen have been ruled SCA compatible in August 1995." Coedwig is a Welsh word meaning woods or forest.

The previous submission used a per chevron division that was found to be in conflict with the device of Phillip of Ghent, Per chevron argent and vert, two fir trees eradicated and a hawk stooping counterchanged; the change in the line of division clears this conflict.

Elias Madruga     (Betony Wood)     New Name
The submitter desires a male name. The submitter states that Elias is given in Diez Melcon on p. 104, dated to 1029, 1237 and 1271, but it is listed as a surname, not a given name. Elias is the Spanish equivalent for the Biblical name Elijah. Madruga is also found in Diez Melcon on p.280, dated to 1260 in the name Martin Madruga.

Leo Diogenes     (Crystalmist)     New Name; See Returns for Device
The submitter desires a male Byzantine name and will not accept major changes. The documentation provided indicates that there was a king of Byzantium, and possible pretender to the empire named Leon (Leo) Diogenes, son of Romanus IV Diogenes. However, since we were unable to locate this person in any standard history of the Byzantine Empire, we do not believe that this name violates the Rule of Presumption nor is the name worthy of protection. The list of masculine name in Common Names of the Aristocracy in the Roman Empire During the 6th and 7th Centuries by Bardas Xiphias (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/byzantine/early_byz_names.html) includes both Leo and Diogenes.

Richard of Ardgour     (Caer Darth)     Resubmission of Device to Kingdom

Per chevron sable and argent, three griffins counterchanged and a bordure embattled gules.
The submitter's name was included in the West Kingdom LOI of 10/06. The previous submission was simpler and conflicted with a number of registered items. This is a complete redraw.

Sarah Bakestre     (Golden Rivers)     New Name; See Returns for Device
The submitter desires a female name and will not accept major or minor changes. Sarah is a feminine English given name found Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames by Talan Gwynek under the header Sara dated to 1201, 1249, 1384 and 1405 at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/reaneyintro.html. Bakestre is listed in Reaney on p. 33 under the header spelling Baxter dated to 1260.

Serena Amarelli     (Vinhold)     New Name
The submitter desires an Italian name. Serena is an Italian feminine given name listed in Italian Renaissance Women's Names by Rhian Lyth of Blackmoor Vale dated to the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Centuries at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/italian.html. Amarelli is listed in the Tratte dated between 1282 and 1532 in Florence at http://digilander.libero.it/gasparo/surnames.htm.

Úrsúla Þorbjargardóttir     (Allyshia)     New Name; See Returns for Device
The submitter desires a female name. Úrsúla is found in Geirr Bassi on p. 15. Þorbjargardóttir is found in Geirr Bassi on p. 18.


Blaxio Zen     (Winter's Gate)     Return of Device Resubmission to Kingdom

Sable, a pall Or between a peach tree argent fructed and two wyverns respectant Or.
The previous submission used three different colors around the pall and was returned. This redesign clears that problem. However, this conflicts with the device of Constance MacCallum of Houghton, Sable, a pall between in fess two mullets of eight points Or and in chief a tower argent. There is one clear visual difference for the change of type of the secondary charges, but no other differences.

Leo Diogenes     (Crystalmist)     Return of Device

Argent, in pale a lion sejant contourny gules maned and maintaining in one raised paw a hammer atop a single-horned anvil, on a chief embattled sable three bezants.
The device submissions do not have the drawing on the submission form, but attached behind it as separate sheets. The sheets also appear to have shrunk in printing, so the devices are too small. These will have to be returned with instructions to be sure to print the forms full size and attach the drawings to the submission forms, preferably colored with colored pens and not color printing or copying, which does not render heraldic colors properly.

Sarah Bakestre     (Golden Rivers)     Return of Device

Sable, a bend sinister engrailed Or between in chief a decrescent and in base three mullets of eight in bend argent.
The device must be returned for redrawing. A bend must emerge from the corner of a device, with the top line emerging from the top and the bottom line emerging from the side so as to include the entire corner. This bend emerges entirely from the top of the device. In addition, the decrescent is drawn at an angle that is neither bendwise nor properly in the default position for a decrescent.

Úrsúla Þorbjargardóttir     (Allyshia)     Return of Device

Gyronny arrondi purpure and Or, a winged cat sejant affronty, wings displayed, a bordure argent.
By Laurel ruling, wings placed on charges that are not normally winged must be drawn with either standard bird wings or standard bat wings. Since these wings are neither bird wings nor bat wings, this device must be returned. Additionally, the bordure is too thin and must be made thicker in any redrawing. There was also some concern expressed that the size of the cat relative to the size and shape of the wings renders the cat unidentifiable as a primary charge. Even with correctly drawn wings, this device may not be acceptable if the cat cannot be clearly identified as such.

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