Minutes of the May, 2006 Herald's Meeting

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The meeting was held on Sunday, 14 May 2006, at the home of Eilis O'Boirne in Berkeley. The meeting started at 12:20 pm and ended at 3:55 pm. In attendance at this meeting were: Eilis O'Boirne, Vesper; Frederick of Holland, Brachet; Edith de Laufare, Seawolf; Astrid of Swansvale, Latimer Herald, Teleri Tawel, Artist; Walraven van Nijmegen, Nebuly Pursuivant and Exchequer to the College; Vigdķs vestfirzka, Snowbound; Felix macAvady, St. Katherine Pursuivant; Moira O'Connor, Glora fjord Pursuivant; Maxen ap Morgan, Pursuivant at Large; Emma FitzWilliam, Pursuivant Extraordinary at Large; James Andrew MacAllister, Artist, Aleit Peitersdochter, Guest and Kiriana Michaelson, Matins.

The upcoming meetings are: June 11, July 9, September 10, October 8, and November 12. Meetings start at noon.

In general, meetings will be held at Eilis’ house (2322 Russell Street, Berkeley CA 94705; 510-486-0633 -- call for directions). “Road show” meetings will be announced well in advance.

Anyone who is bringing a walk-in submission should contact Matins in advance, no later than the Thursday before the meeting. This is especially important if the submitter has previous submissions, since the files are stored in a remote location. If you are bringing the paperwork for a submission to a meeting, please plan to arrive by 11:00 am to allow the file to be set up. Please no walk in submissions for the March meeting as that one is a road show.

We are researching some of the name submissions beforehand through an email list, wknames@yahoogroups.com. This list is open by request to heralds in the West Kingdom who are interested in onomastic (name) research. To join the list, please subscribe at wknames-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.



Sable Swan Herald will be holding a "Pre-Coronet Planning" meeting in Sacramento on May 21. All those interested in learning about the various tasks involved in planning and executing the heraldry necessary at a Coronet event are welcome to attend.

SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS: Submission fees are $8 per name, $8 per device, $8 per badge – and a name and device registered at the same time will cost $15 instead of $16. There is no fee for resubmission of a returned item. Submissions require 3 copies of the name form and documentation, 4 colored copies of the device form, and 3 colored copies of the badge form, as applicable. Required documentation includes printouts of any web pages cited – including reports from the Academy of Saint Gabriel – as well as copies of the title page and cited pages from any books that are not standard heraldic references. The submission forms for the West Kingdom College are now available from Matins or the Kingdom consultation table or by following the http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Register.htm#Forms. Completed forms should be sent to Matins at the College address.

Do not send submissions to Matins in a manner that requires a signature. If you want to track your submission, use certified mail without return receipt, express or overnight mail, or Federal Express with no signature. Matins is seldom, if ever, able to go to the post office when it is open and is never home when the mail is delivered, so if you require a signature, it will not reach her.

MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Eilis at heralds@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

These meetings comment on heraldic submissions from other Kingdoms. Please consider attending – you do not have to be able to attend every week. They are a fast way to learn how the Rules of Submission work and how to research armory. The Brachet meetings are in Berkeley on Wednesday nights. If you are interested, contact the Brachet Herald, Frederick of Holland (Fred Hollander) at 510-653-3652.

A training and commenting meeting is being held in Cynagua to promote and encourage interest in book heraldry and raise the level of general heraldic knowledge along the eastern side of the kingdom. The meetings are held on the second and fourth Mondays of each month at 7:00 pm at 4317 Alderwood Way, Sacramento, CA 95864. Call Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym for more information, (916) 323-4268 or email her, ginni.morgan@doj.ca.gov.

West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds’ website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm. There is a colored version and a printer-friendly black and white version available.

A Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry as Used in the Society for Creative Anachronism (by Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme and Akagawa Yoshio) is available by sending $15 to Bruce Miller, 728 Erica Place, Oxnard, CA 93030, (805) 278-0135.

The LoAR for February 2006 was published in May 2006, covering our October 2005 meeting. The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by Lord Laurel, please be sure to visit the site.

WEST - Acceptances - February 2006:

Andrea of Wolfscairn. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Per bend sinister wavy azure and argent, a unicorn rampant to sinister argent, armed, crined and tailed Or and a heart gules.

Submitted under the name Colleen of Bannockburn.

Eyvindr Gunnarsson. Name and device. Per pale sable and gules, a mullet of seven points within seven roundels in annulo all within an orle Or.

Sarra Greyhand. Name and device. Azure, a dragon couchant to sinister argent maintaining an open book Or, a bordure argent mulletty of six points azure.

Solveig of Mountains Gate. Holding name and device (see RETURNS for name). Or, three rams statant sable.

Blazoned on the LoI as Icelandic sheep, we do not normally make this level of distinction. The submitter's documentation indicates that some varieties of Icelandic sheep are horned while others are polled or unhorned. We decline to blazon to the level horned Icelandic sheep; blazoning this as a ram will reproduce something identifiably similar to the submitted emblazon.

Submitted under the name Solveig saušamašr.

Umm Jibril Munisa bint al-Nadr. Name and device. Per fess gules and azure, a dance and in base three roundels Or.

Wilhelm von der Grün. Name.

WEST - Returns - February 2006:

Colleen of Bannockburn. Name.

Colleen is the submitter's legal middle name. While a legal given name is registerable as a given name regardless of what type of name it was originally, a legal middle name is only registerable as a given name if it can be shown to have been a given name prior to the modern era:
DeWayne is the submitter's middle name, not his given name. A Middle name is treated by type: if it is structurally a given name it can be used as a given name, but if it is structurally a surname it can only be used as a surname. DeWayne is structurally a surname so cannot be used as a given name. [DeWayne of Locks, 10/99, R-Calontir]

Colleen is an Anglicization of the Irish word cailin, a descriptive meaning "a young girl". Because it is a byname by type, it is only registerable as a byname under the Legal Name allowance in this instance.

Her device was registered under the holding name Andrea of Wolfscairn

Mari Alexander. Badge. Sable, four lozenges in cross Or.

Given this emblazon, Mari's badge could just as easily be blazoned as Sable, on a lozenge Or a saltire sable. Reluctantly, we must return this for conflict with Konrad von Drachenruh, Sable, on a lozenge Or a dragon couchant sable, granting a single CD for changes to the tertiary charge.

The submitter has permission to conflict with Heinrich von Stuttgart, Per bend azure and checky Or and azure, a cross of four lozenges Or.

Solveig saušamašr. Name.

The grammar of the byname saušamašr is incorrect for a feminine name. The byname saušamašr, which Haraldsson, The Old Norse Name, glosses as "shepherd," is a compound word built from saušr "sheep" and mašr "man". While mašr is sometimes found in compounds with the generic meaning of "humankind", in constructions such as this, it is specifically used to denote a person of the masculine gender. Descriptive names using mašr are not found in feminine names; instead the word kona "woman" is used as part of the compound. We would change this name to Solveig saušakona, but this significantly changes the sound and appearance of the name, a major change which the submitter will not allow. If resubmitting, we suggestion either Solveig saušakona, which has the meaning of "shepherdess" specifically requested by the submitter, or Solveig saušahiršir. The word saušahiršir is in Cleasby/Vigfusson, An English Icelandic Dictionary, s.n. Saušr, with the meaning "sheepherder," a gender-neutral term for this profession.

Her arms were registered under the holding name Solveig of Mountains Gate

In Service,

Matins Herald

SUBMISSONS – 14 May XLI (2006)


Aleit Pietersdochter   (Silver Desert)   New Name and Device

Sable, on a chevron Or between three escutcheons argent, five ermine spots sable.
The submitter desires a Flemish female name. Aleit is a Flemish name dated to between 1259-1530 in Brussels according to Vlaamse Vrouwennamen at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/guntram/vlaamse.htm. Pieter is a Fifteenth Century Dutch given name used to form patronymic bynames in Surnames by Aryanhwy merch Catmael at http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/dutch/dutch15surnames.html. The patronymic in this case is correctly formed for a female name.

Ayloara of Meddestane   (Canale)   New Name, see Returns for Device
The submitter desires a female name and originally submitted Ayloara of Maidstone, however we have changed it from the modern spelling to a period spelling. Ayloara is a Frankish name dating to a time before the Tenth Century at http://www.s-gabriel.org/706. Meddestane was a town in Kent, dated to 1321 in Ekwall, p. 311 under the header spelling of Maidstone.

Constance Lymnour   (Teufelberg)   New Name, see Returns for Device
The submitter desires a female name authentic to the Fourteenth Century. Constance is an English given name dated to 1273 in Withycombe, p. 72. Lymnour is a surname dated to 1493 under the header spelling Limmer in Reaney p. 279.

Enderlin Jäger   (Mists)   New Name and Device

Argent, a bend between six crescents gules.
The submitter desires an authentic Fourteenth Century German name and will not accept major changes. Enderlin is listed on the Laurel web site in Talan Gwynek's Medieval German Given Names from Silesia, as a Fourteenth Century German given name. Jäger is a German surname dated to 1280 and listed as the header spelling in Brechenmacher, p. 764.

Esja hjaltlendingr   (Wuduholt be Secq)   New Name, see Return for Device
The submitter desires an authentic Tenth Century name for a Viking from the Shetland Islands. Esja is in Geirr Bassi on p. 9. hjaltlendingr is listed on the Laurel web site in Viking Bynames found in the Landnįmabók as a byname meaning Shetlander. It is also listed in that spelling in Geirr Bassi on p. 23.

Friedrich Sybold   (Golden Rivers)   Device Resubmission to Laurel

Vert, in chief three lozenges fesswise in fess and on a base rayonny argent, an annulet vert.
The submitter's name was registered 1/06. The submitter's previous registration Per saltire sable and vert, a compass star within an annulet argent, was returned for multiple conflicts. This is a complete redesign.

Gemini de Grendel   (Golden Rivers)   New Badge

Sable, in fess two compass stars elongated to base argent.
The submitter's name was registered in 5/02.

John Patten   (Southern Shores)   Badge Resubmission to Kingdom

(Fieldless) A chess rook purpure.
The submitter's current registered name, Iason Vorax was registered 11/94. The name John Patten was submitted in the 3/06 West Kingdom LOI.

Kolskeggr skjaldarbrotamašr fra Einkunnir   (Allyshia)   New Name and Device

Quarterly vert and argent, in fess two lightening bolts Or.
The submitter desires an authentic Icelandic name but originally submitted the name as Kolskeggr Shieldbreaker of Einkunnir. We have changed the English elements to Icelandic to comply with the submitter's request for authenticity. Kolskegger is listed in Geirr Bassi on p. 13. skjaldar- is in Geirr Bassi on p. 27 as a combining prefix meaning shield. brotamašr is in Geirr Bassi on p. 20, meaning breaker. Einkunnir is shown on a map as a place name in Egil's Saga translated from Old Icelandic by Gwyn Jones (New York: Twayne Publishers). Egil's Saga is considered to be a work dating to 860-1000, but recorded on vellum in 1220-25. (p. 2). We believe that fra is correct Old Norse preposition of from for purposes of forming the locative.

Leohtulf of the Silver Hills   (Southern Shores)   New Badge

Per bend gules and azure, in bend sinister a heart and a wolf's head cabossed argent.
The submitter's name was registered 11/94. The submitter desires this badge to be co-owned with Gillian Trenowyth, whose name was registered 2/05.

Rayna O' Donnell   (Golden Rivers)   New Device

Vert, a natural dolphin argent between three escallops Or.
The submitter's name was registered 11/91.

Rhys ap Thomyn   (Silver Desert)   New Name and Device

Per bend azure and purpure, in bend sinister a mullet of four points elongated to base argent and an open book Or.
The submitter desires an authentic Twelfth to Fourteenth Century Welsh name. Rhys is in Morgan and Morgan, p. 185-186 in Griffini ap Rys dated to 1303 and Rhis dated to the Fourteenth Century. The combination of these two names makes the proposed spelling a likely one for that time frame. Thomyn is listed in Morgan and Morgan, p. 197 under Thomas as Thomyn, from the Medieval Court Rolls of the Marcher Lordship of Clun.

West, Kingdom of the   (West)   New Badge

Or, within an oak wreath a demi-sun vert.


Ayloara of Meddestane   (Canale)   Return of Device

Sable, two flaunches gules, fimbriated, and in base a sun in its splendor Or.
The device must be returned because, by Laurel precedent of 11/01, only central charges of simple geometric shape may be fimbriated. In the Laurel precedent, a chief was not allowed to be fimbriated. In addition, the flaunches are not correctly drawn. Flaunches should come from the sides of the device and not the top.

Constance Lymnour   (Teufelberg)   Return of Device

Gyronny of six azure and argent, a sprig of three lilies Or slipped and leaved vert.
This conflicts with the device of June of Morgans Hall, Azure, a day lily plant with three blossoms Or.

Enderlin Jäger   (Mists)   Return of Badge

Argent, three crescents gules.
This badge conflicts with the device of Saher de Wahull, Or, three crescents gules and with the badge of Bell Phoebe de Givet, Argent, two crescents gules and a scourge sable.

Esja hjaltlendingr   (Wuduholt be Secq)   Return of Device

Ermine, on a pile purpure, a sun in its splendor Or.
The device conflicts with the device of Rhael Anedd, Ermine, on a pile throughout purpure a Pegasus sergeant contourney argent. We note to the submitter that when they resubmit, they should be careful not to shrink the forms as the size of the emblazon is supposed to be six inches tall.

Walterus of Athens   (Fettburg)   Return of Name and Device

Sable, a dragon's head couped enarched contourney and a gore sinister Or.
The submitter will not accept major changes to his name and desires a masculine name. Walterus is listed in Names from Ormskirk Parish, Lancashire: The Poll Tax of 1381, (http://my.stratos.net/~bmscott/Ormskirk_1381.html) by Talan Gwynek, as a Latinized forename. Athens is a city in ancient Greece. We cannot send this name on in its current form because there is insufficient contact to justify a Latinized version of a given name of Germanic origin with a city in Greece in an Anglicized form. Since the submitter does not allow major changes, we cannot change of Athens to a Latin form to match Walterus nor can we change Walterus to Walter to match Athens. In both instances, change of the language constitutes a disallowed major change.

We cannot send on the device without a concurrent name submission. We note to the submitter that if he desires a dragon's head that it should be drawn in a properly heraldic form, preferably with internal details and ears, to make it more recognizable as a dragon's head.

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