Minutes of the April, 2006 Herald's Meeting

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The meeting was held on Sunday, 9 April 2006, at the home of Eilis O'Boirne in Berkeley. The meeting started at 12:05 am and ended at 2:20 pm. In attendance at this meeting were: Frederick of Holland, Brachet; Eilis O'Boirne, Compline and Banner; Wilhelm von Homburg, Sable Swan and Baldric; Edith de Laufare, Seawolf; Astrid of Swansvale, Latimer Herald, Teleri Tawel, Artist; Walraven van Nijmegen, Nebuly Pursuivant and Exchequer to the College; Vigdís vestfirzka, Snowbound; Felix macAvady, St. Katherine Pursuivant; Maxen ap Morgan, Pursuivant at Large; Emma FitzWilliam, Pursuivant Extraordinary at Large; and Kiriana Michaelson, Matins.

The upcoming meetings are: May 14, June 11, July 9, September 10, October 8, and November 12. Meetings start at noon.

In general, meetings will be held at Eilis’ house (2322 Russell Street, Berkeley CA 94705; 510-486-0633 -- call for directions). “Road show” meetings will be announced well in advance.

Anyone who is bringing a walk-in submission should contact Matins in advance, no later than the Thursday before the meeting. This is especially important if the submitter has previous submissions, since the files are stored in a remote location. If you are bringing the paperwork for a submission to a meeting, please plan to arrive by 11:00 am to allow the file to be set up. Please no walk in submissions for the March meeting as that one is a road show.

We are researching some of the name submissions beforehand through an email list, wknames@yahoogroups.com. This list is open by request to heralds in the West Kingdom who are interested in onomastic (name) research. To join the list, please subscribe at wknames-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.




Sable Swan Herald will be holding a "Pre-Coronet Planning" meeting in Sacramento on May 21. All those interested in learning about the various tasks involved in planning and executing the heraldry necessary at a Coronet event are welcome to attend.

SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS: Submission fees are $8 per name, $8 per device, $8 per badge – and a name and device registered at the same time will cost $15 instead of $16. There is no fee for resubmission of a returned item. Submissions require 3 copies of the name form and documentation, 4 colored copies of the device form, and 3 colored copies of the badge form, as applicable. Required documentation includes printouts of any web pages cited – including reports from the Academy of Saint Gabriel – as well as copies of the title page and cited pages from any books that are not standard heraldic references. The submission forms for the West Kingdom College are now available from Matins or the Kingdom consultation table or by following the http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Register.htm#Forms. Completed forms should be sent to Matins at the College address.

Do not send submissions to Matins in a manner that requires a signature. If you want to track your submission, use certified mail without return receipt, express or overnight mail, or Federal Express with no signature. Matins is seldom, if ever, able to go to the post office when it is open and is never home when the mail is delivered, so if you require a signature, it will not reach her.

MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Eilis at heralds@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

These meetings comment on heraldic submissions from other Kingdoms. Please consider attending – you do not have to be able to attend every week. They are a fast way to learn how the Rules of Submission work and how to research armory. The Brachet meetings are in Berkeley on Wednesday nights. If you are interested, contact the Brachet Herald, Frederick of Holland (Fred Hollander) at 510-653-3652.

A training and commenting meeting is being held in Cynagua to promote and encourage interest in book heraldry and raise the level of general heraldic knowledge along the eastern side of the kingdom. The meetings are held on the second and fourth Mondays of each month at 7:00 pm at 4317 Alderwood Way, Sacramento, CA 95864. Call Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym for more information, (916) 323-4268 or email her, ginni.morgan@doj.ca.gov.

West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds’ website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm. There is a colored version and a printer-friendly black and white version available.

A Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry as Used in the Society for Creative Anachronism (by Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme and Akagawa Yoshio) is available by sending $15 to Bruce Miller, 728 Erica Place, Oxnard, CA 93030, (805) 278-0135.

The LoAR for January 2006 was published in April 2006, covering our September 2005 meeting. The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by Lord Laurel, please be sure to visit the site.

WEST - Acceptances - January 2006:

Branwyn FitzRoberts. Name and device. Vert, a horse couchant Or, a bordure Or semy of roses azure.

Branwyn is the submitter's legal given name. FitzRoberts is the registered byname of her mother and is, therefore, registerable to her under the grandfather clause.

Please advise the submitter on how to correctly draw heraldic roses. In addition, some internal detailing would aid in the identification of the roses.

Chabi Ünegen. Name.

Friedrich Sybold. Name (see RETURNS for device).

Roxana of Shiraz. Reblazon of device. Azure, a natural ibex passant between three mullets of eight points argent.

Registered January 1984 with the blazon Azure, an ibex passant between three mullets of eight points argent, the ibex is a natural ibex, not a heraldic ibex. Please see the Cover Letter for a discussion on ibexes.

Stephan Tot. Name.

Valentina de la Bere. Name and device. Vert, a bear passant and on a point pointed argent a heart gules.

The byname de la Bere is registered to her husband, Stephen de la Bere, and is, therefore, grandfathered to her.

The submitter has a letter of permission to conflict with Stephen de la Bere's device, Vert, a bear passant and on a point pointed argent two roundels in fess azure

Vyncent atte Wodegate. Device. Vert, on a pile bendwise inverted between two compass stars argent a compass star palewise sable.

WEST - Returns - January 2006:

Friedrich Sybold. Device. Per saltire vert and sable, a compass star within an annulet argent.

This device is returned for multiple conflicts. Against Hans Dürrmast von der Wanderlust, (Fieldless) A mullet of five greater and five lesser points within and conjoined to an annulet argent, there is a single CD for adding the field. No difference is granted between a compass star, that is, a mullet of four greater and four lesser points, and a mullet of five greater and five lesser points. Against Alexandre sur la Mer, Azure, a compass rose argent, there is a single CD for changes to the field. By precedent (q.v. Hans Dörrmast von der Wanderlust, 12/02, R-An Tir), there is no difference given between a compass star within an annulet and a compass rose.

Against Rørik Sverðmaðr, Per fess sable and azure, a compass star within a sea-serpent involved head to base argent, there is a single CD for changes to the field. There is no difference between a sea-serpent involved and an annulet.

In Service,

Matins Herald

SUBMISSONS – 9 April XL (2006)


Cecilia Palazzolo     (Caer Darth)     New Name
The submitter desires an Italian feminine name. Cecilia is from Dizionario dei Nomi Italiani by De Felice, p. 103. Palazzolo is from Dizionario dei Cognomi Italiani by De Felice, p. 185.

Dietrich Jürgen von Marksburg     (Eskalya)     Resubmission of Name and Device to Kingdom

Vert ermined, a chevron between two crescents and a dragon segreant argent.
The submitter originally submitted Loric Jürgen von Marksburg in 05/97 and a completely different device, both of which were returned.

The submitter desires a German masculine name. Dietrich is from Mittlehochdeutsches Namenbuch by Socin, p. 566, under the header spelling Dietrich Berner dated to 1328 and Dietrich von Bern von Rinfelden dated to 1373. Jürgen is from Bahlow on p. 280. While the submitter originally requested Jorgan, we were unable to document this form. von Marksburg is a locative byname from Marksburg Castle in Germany, the only castle on the Rhine that has never been destroyed. The earliest reference we located was dated to 1231 according to http://www.marksburg.de/english/navi.htm.

Elisheva Sitt al-Sirr     (Winter's Gate)     Resubmission of Name and Device to Kingdom

Sable, two roses in pale and a gore Or.
The submitter originally submitted Elisheva Shoshana last month, but did not include a driver's license for the first name and we could not document any instances of two given names used as a period form. The new submission corrects these problems.

The submitter desires an authentic, feminine Hebrew name. Elisheva is the submitter's mundane given name as shown on her driver's license. Sitt al-Sirr is from Jewish Names in the World of Medieval Islam by Yehoshua ben Haim ha Yerushalmi on the Laurel Web Site.

The device was free of conflict, but we were unable to send it on in March without a concurrent name submission.

Francesca Carletti     (Winter's Gate)     Resubmission of Device to Kingdom

Purpure, an estoile and a chief rayonny Or.
The submitter's name was submitted to Laurel in the West LOI of 3/06.

We returned this device in March for failure to drawn the line of division properly. The submitter has corrected this problem. The device was free of conflict in March.

Julian of Redwood     (Crosston)     Resubmission of Badge to Kingdom

Or, a crow volant sable maintaining in its beak a needle gules within a bordure sable.
The submitter's name was submitted to Laurel in the West LOI of 3/06.

We returned the previous badge submission, (Fieldless) A crow volant sable maintaining a needle argent, for conflict with badge of Francesca da Bari: (Fieldless) A swallow volant sable and the device of Urien Pen-an-vre: Per chevron argent and vert, in chief a chough volant proper bearing in its claws a nugget of tin ore proper. The new submission has cleared these conflicts.

Melanie of Canale     (Canale)     New Name and Device

Per bend sinister sable and gules, a pear within a bordure Or.
The submitter's mundane given name is Melanie as shown on her check and her membership, under Melanie Santos, although she has failed to submit a driver's license. Melanie is a header spelling in Withycombe dated to 1660 on p. 216. Canale is the branch in which she resides. The branch name was registered in 08/85.

This submission is clear of conflict with the device of Petronilla of London Vert, a goutte and a bordure Or registered 12/01, with one CD for the change to the field and one CD for the difference between a goutte and a pear.

Philip the Gravedigger     (Canale)     New Device

Sable, a death's head and on a chief embattled argent, three tankards sable.
The submitter's name was registered in 9/92 via Atlantia.

Philip the Gravedigger     (Canale)     New Badge

(Fieldless) On a tankard sable, a death's head argent.
The submitter's name was registered in 9/92 via Atlantia.

Rosaline d'Hiver     (Eskalya)     New Name Change; Device Resubmission to Laurel

Per fess sable estencilly argent and vert, a fess indented argent.
The submitter's currently registered name is Deredere the Naughty registered 11/97. Her device submission of Per bend sinister gules and sable, a padlock debruised by a key bendwise, wards in base, argent was returned by Laurel in 11/97 for lack of identifiability of the charges. This is a completely new submission.

The submitter desires a female name and will accept Hiver instead of d'Hiver as an alternate. The submitter originally requested Rosalyn, but we have been unable to document this form. Rosaline is from Shakespeare (Romeo and Juliet and Love's Labour's Lost), as stated in Withycombe under the header spelling Rosalind on p. 257. Hiver is a French byname that derives from either a German given name or the French word for winter as stated in Dictionnaire Étymologique des Noms de Famille et Prénoms by Dauzat on p. 329. The submitter has used the contracted preposition d' which we could not document with this byname, we feel it is appropriately used based on examples such as de Winter in English. We ask for the College's help documenting it in French. If it cannot be documented, we request that Laurel drop the preposition to allow registration.

If this name is registered, the submitter desires that her previous name registration be released.

Þyri blundr     (Golden Rivers)     New Name
The submitter desires a Norse name and will not accept major changes. Þyri is from Geirr Bassi, p. 17 and blundr is from Geirr Bassi, p. 20.


Soga Ryoichi     (Hawk's Haven)     Return of Name and Device

Azure, two Japanese well-frames interlaced fesswise within an annulet argent.
The submitter desires a Japanese masculine name and will not accept major changes. In the Japanese style, the submitter has put the surname before the given name. Soga is a Japanese family surname dated to pre-1600 at www.sengokudaimyo.com/miscellany/miscellany/miscellany.html. The same web site indicates that a given name, called a zokumyô, constructed of individual elements relating to the qualities and birth order of the name bearer, was often given at a coming of age ceremony. Ryoichi is such a constructed name meaning good first son. However, the format given in the article appears to require a nanori or adult personal given name as a third element since the article states that the nanori, was generally bestowed in the same ceremony as the zokumyô. No third name element has been submitted and since the submitter does not allow major changes, we cannot add an element for him. The submission must therefore be returned with a request for a name formed according to the principles in the article provided or for the submitter to provide additional documentation showing that names in period would be formed without the nanori.

The device presents several problems. The submitter has stated that the primary charge is a kamon, but the word kamon simply means "family crest," not any particular item or charge. In addition, the drawing is an inadequate depiction of the charges. The annulet is too thin and the well frames are too thick. However, the submitter is not instructed to redraw the device because the proposed device conflicts with the device of Perigrine Mellyrn of the Last Mountain, Azure, a mascle within an annulet argent, and redrawing will not solve this problem.

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