Minutes of the September, 2003 Herald's Meeting

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The Heralds’ Collegium in November will feature more advanced classes in book heraldry, onomastics, and court heraldry. Be sure to attend.

See The section below on duty heraldry for a special announcement from Vesper.

See the section below on court reporting for a special announcement from Vesper.

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MINUTES OF THE MONTHLY MEETING – 7 September xxxvii (2003)

The meeting was held on Sunday, 7 September 2003, at the home of Eilis O’Boirne. The meeting started at 12:30 pm and ended at 5:00 pm. In attendance at this meeting were: Gaius M.L. Auklandus, Vesper; Frederick of Holland, Brachet; Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasfryn, Harpy Herald; Marguerite du Rayon, Seawolf Herald; Berengaria de Montfort de Carcasone, Sable Swan Herald; Teleri Tawel, Pursuivant for Crosston; Walraven von Nijmegen, Nebuly Pursuivant; Felix MacAvady, Pursuivant for Sainte Katherine’s; Harold von Rheinfelden, Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym, Iulstan Sigewealding and Maxen Dawel ap Morgan, PaL; Wilhelm von Homburg, Antonio Giordano da Sicilia, Catherine de Gray, and Neassa mhic Cathasaigh, PEs at Large; Emma FitzWilliam, cornet; Jehanne de Wodeford, guest; and Eilis O’Boirne, Matins.

COLLEGE OF HERALDS MEETINGS
The upcoming meetings are: October 19, November 16, January 4, February 8, March 7, April 11, May 9, and June 6. Meetings are generally held at the home of Eilis O’Boirne, 2322 Russell Street, Berkeley, CA 94705. Call for directions. Meetings start at noon. There is no meeting scheduled for August or December 2003.

Anyone who is bringing a walk-in submission should contact Matins in advance. This is especially important if the submitter has previous submissions, since the files are stored in a remote location. If you are bringing a submission to a meeting, please plan to arrive by 11:00 am to allow the file to be set up.

We are researching some of the name submissions beforehand through an email list, names@synergy.transbay.net. This list is open by request to heralds in the West Kingdom who are interested in onomastic (name) research. To join the list, please contact Felix MacAvady at ha.raschid@sinewave.com.

Since there was no interest expressed in voice instruction at the monthly meetings, it is being discontinued as a regular feature. If interest is expressed in the future, it will probably be offered again.

ANNOUNCEMENTS
HERALDS’ COLLEGIUM: The Fall Heralds' Collegium will happen November 23,at the Mechanics Bank Operations Center, 725 Alfred Nobel Drive in Hercules (near Pinole and Vallejo). The meeting on the following day will be at Eilis’ in Berkeley. (This is the place we were going to have the Collegium last year but ended up moving due to PG&E's construction outside the building.)

The theme for the Fall collegium this year is, as is usual for Fall Collegia, Armory, Onomastics, and Court. We've had a number of basic classes in the last couple of years, so this Collegium is going to be more intermediate level.

DIRECTIONS:

Remember that this is a secure building. Once you are parked, walk through the courtyard to the big double doors. The Security Guard will let you in.

There will be a lunch potluck at the site (main dish provided -- refrigerator, microwave and stove available) – over lunch there will be a discussion of interest to heralds. An organized restaurant visit for dinner in Berkeley (Blue Nile, anyone?), and a court for the Kingdom of the South at the evening revel, will follow. Directions to the revel will be available at the event.

The Spring Heralds’ Collegium will be held March 6, the day before the March heralds’ meeting. We would like to hold it in Cynagua – if you know of a site, please contact Duchess Letitia, Baldric.

DUTY HERALDRY: As many of you know, we had an incident at June Crown where someone assaulted (but did not commit battery, as I was so ably informed by Duchess Emma) one of our duty heralds. The issue was resolved by that person's camp, but I would like to implement some guidelines for duty heralds to minimize the possibility of it happening again in quite the way it did. NOTE: EVERYBODY considers this to be an aberration and not at all the norm. We are not a society of street thugs, for the most part, and do not expect this to happen often. However, please apply the following when you are a duty herald, and especially at night:

--- Gaius, Vesper

COURT REPORTING: We have determined that with the larger number of heralds doing courts, there is less control and less tracking of what's gone on. I am hearing a larger number of awards being reaffirmed in court, and hearing a larger number of people asking about their awards not being published. To this end, we are going to discuss what can be done after the November heralds' meeting.

I have also decided to put a "bandaid" on the system until we can determine a new methodology and implement it:

--- Gaius, Vesper

STAFFING: The following transitions have happened/will happen soon:

NEW BANNERS TO MARK FIELDS: Mistress Marguerite has created banners of the field colors to be displayed on the fighting fields at Crowns. Her idea is to have the banners show which fields will be designated as which colors (she'll have them up as of Friday night) so the fighters can accurately know where they're fighting and can put that color on the signup sheet. This will (as we work on coordination with lists) be transferred to the cards so that the herald on the field can know where to direct his/her shouts. This should keep us from having the problem we had at October Crown where GreenSeaCloakWolf had to deal with an angry Duke. She will also make those banners available to the Principality Heralds where she can (sorry, Stellanordica...).

SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS: Until the January (2004) herald's meeting, submission fees are $8 per name, $8 per device, $8 per badge – and a name and device registered at the same time will cost $15 instead of $16. There is no fee for resubmission of a returned item. Submissions require 3 copies of the name form and documentation, 4 colored copies of the device form, and 3 colored copies of the badge form, as applicable. The submission forms for the West Kingdom College are now available from Matins or the Kingdom consultation table or by following the http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Register.htm#Forms. Completed forms should be sent to Matins at the College address.

MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please contact Felix MacAvady at ha.raschid@sinewave.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Eilis at heralds@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

BRACHET MEETINGS
These meetings comment on heraldic submissions from other Kingdoms. Please consider attending – you do not have to be able to attend every week. They are a fast way to learn how the Rules of Submission work and how to research armory. The Brachet meetings are in Berkeley on Wednesday nights. If you are interested, contact the Brachet Herald, Frederick of Holland (Fred Hollander) at 510-653-3652.

Cynaguan commenting meetings are starting up in Golden Rivers at the home of Antonio Giordano da Sicilia. The schedule is the 2nd and 4th Mondays of each month, 6:30 - 9:30 pm.  (1024 42nd Street; house is at the intersection of 42nd and J Streets; third house from the SW corner -- on the west side of the street). For additional information, contact the Sable Swan Herald.

HERALDIC PUBLICATIONS
West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds’ website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm. There is a colored version and a printer-friendly black and white version available.

The latest edition of the Armorial and Ordinary, along with updates for the previous editions, are available from Free Trumpet Press West along with other useful heraldic publications. Write for a free price list. The address is Free Trumpet Press West, 1613 N. School St. Normal, IL 61761-1240.

A Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry as Used in the Society for Creative Anachronism (by Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme and Akagawa Yoshio) is available by sending $15 to Bruce Miller, 1711 Tenth Street, Manhattan Beach, CA 90266, (310) 379-1321.

EXCERPTS FROM THE LOAR
The LoARs for May and June have just been published. The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by Lord Laurel, please be sure to visit the site.

May LoAR: These were the Western acceptances (from our January meeting):

Gwyneth Rhiannon of the Sea. Device. Argent, on a cartouche purpure a dragonfly argent.

Joseph the Good. Device reblazon. Gules, a Japanese dragon passant Or.

His previous blazon, Gules, a Japanese dragon volant Or, did not clearly indicate the posture of the charge. The dragon is much more stocky than the usual sinuous and undulating Oriental dragon, and is clearly in a passant posture.

The following Western submissions were returned for further work:

Catherine de Gray. Badge. (Fieldless) A mermaid argent, tailed crined and maintaining in each hand a cross crosslet fitchy sable.

Conflict with Colin of Duntamknackan, (Tinctureless) A merman, bow in dexter and arrow in sinister hand, tail raised to sinister. There is a CD for fieldlessness. There is no additional difference for tincture given in comparison to a tinctureless badge. There is no difference for the changes to the type of the maintained charges. There is no difference given between a merman and a mermaid: "[a winged merman vs a winged mermaid displayed] In each case there is ... nothing for posture (which is identical) or for the minor differences among the types of the winged humanoid sea-monsters" (LoAR January 1996 p.22).

June LoAR: These were the Western acceptances (from our February meeting):

Amelye van Deventer. Name and device. Per bend vert and azure, a decrescent and an increscent Or.

Anneke Grove of Scambanden. Name and device. Azure, three trees and on a chief argent three lozenges azure.

Submitted as Anneke Grove of Scammonden, Ekwall (p. 406 s.n. Scammonden) dates Scambanden to 1275. Lacking evidence that the -b- was dropped from the name of this location in period, we have changed the locative byname to use the dated form, as allowed by the submitter, in order to register this name.

Eiríkr eldr Hj{o,}rtsson. Name and badge. Argent, a mastless drakkar, a chief, and a base engrailed sable.

Listed on the LoI as Eld-hjörtr Eriksson, this name was submitted as Erik Eld-hjörtr and changed at Kingdom because no support was found for the submitted form of this name.

The submitted documentation was inadequately summarized on the LoI, which stated:

The submitter's originally submitted name, Erik Eld-hjörtr is not supportable, so we are going with his second choice. Hjörtr is found on p.11 of Bassi; the byname Eldr is found in the Landnámábok, and Eld- would be the prefix form. Erik is found on p.9 of Bassi; the patronymic is formed normally. He wishes a Viking name from the period of the Rus expansion.
This submission included a letter from Gunnvör silfrahárr (formerly Gunnora Hallakarva) which provided support for some elements in the submitted name. However, since Gunnvör's letter was not summarized in the LoI, that documentation could not be judged by the College. Therefore, the submitted name must be judged according to the documentation presented to the College in the LoI, along with other information found by the College during the commentary process.

Hj{o,}rtr and Eiríkr, not Erik as stated in the LoI, are found in Geirr Bassi as masculine given names. A man named Eiríkr whose father was Hj{o,}rtr would be Eiríkr Hjartarson. A man named Hj{o,}rtr whose father was Eiríkr would be Hj{o,}rtr Eiríksson.

The byname eldr 'fire' is also found in Geirr Bassi. Eld- was submitted as a theorized prefix form of this byname. However, not all Norse bynames had prefix forms. Gunnvör's letter listed some names that included Eld- as a protheme in the name (for example, Eldgrímr and Eldjárn), though no examples of Eld- as a byname prepended to a given name (such as in the theorized Eld-Hj{o,}rtr). Lacking evidence that eldr would have been used in a prefix form, Eld- is not registerable as a byname.

Therefore, registerable forms of this name are Eiríkr eldr Hjartarson and Hj{o,}rtr eldr Eiríksson. As the first is the closer of these to the originally submitted name, we have changed this name to that form in order to register this name.

Eric Van Roosebeke. Name and device. Sable, a crescent and a chief embattled argent.

Eric is his legal given name.

Siren found support for the capital V in the byname Van Roosebeke:

     [...] the issue of the capitalization of <van>. While it is unusual, it is found in period documents. In Luana's Bruges article (complete names 1514 census) I found <Lauwereins Vander Burch>, <Marc Vande Velde>, and <Pieter Van Dalle> before I stopped looking.
Given these examples, the capital V in Van is registerable in this submission.

Nice device!

Friđa mj{o,}ksiglanda. Name.

Submitted as Fridha Mjoksiglanda, the submitter requested authenticity for 900-1000 "Viking-Rus". We have modified this name to the fully Old Norse form Friđa mj{o,}ksiglanda to meet the submitter's request for authenticity. This form uses the characters đ (edh) and {o,} (o-ogonek) rather than dh and o. It also puts the byname into lowercase to use standard transliteration conventions. (See the Cover Letter for the October 2002 LoAR for more information.)

Ghislaine d'Auxerre. Badge. (Fieldless) A pantheon's head erased azure semy of compass stars argent gorged of a pearled coronet Or.

Some members of the College inquired whether the submitter is entitled to a coronet. While the Letter of Intent did not provide supporting evidence for this assertion, it was documented sufficiently in the submitter's previous submission.

Jean Guillaume Duplessis. Name and device. Per saltire sable and Or, an eagle and issuant from base a demi-sun all within a bordure counterchanged.

Submitted as Jean-Guillaume Duplessis, the submitter allowed minor changes. The following precedent applies to the submitted Jean-Guillaume:
Submitted as Jean-Pierre Dubois, we know of no period examples of double given names that use the hyphenation. [Jean Pierre Dubois, 04/00, A-Atenveldt]
We have removed the hyphen from this name in order to register this name.

Mari Alexander. Name change from Mari Greensleaves.

This name change has previously been returned for conflict against the submitter's use name of Mari Alexander as her name was Mari Alexander [surname]. In the current submission, the submitter has provided evidence of a legal name change which removes Alexander from her name entirely. As Mari Alexander is no longer a use name for her, we are registering this name change.

Her previous name, Mari Greensleaves, is released.

Pádráig Donn McMathúna. Badge. (Fieldless) An oak tree eradicated within and conjoined to an annulet argent.

Uther Schiemann der Hunt. Name and device. Gules, a cross gurgity Or within a serpent in annulo head to base argent.

There was some question regarding the registerability of this name because Uther was submitted as a Welsh given name in an otherwise German name. Names combining Welsh and German have been ruled unregisterable (Anton Cwith, 08/01, A-Ansteorra).

The name Uther is found in Sir Thomas Mallory's Le Morte d'Arthur as the name of Arthur's father. As such, is is a literary name known in English. Precedent allows registration of Arthurian names:

Current precedent is to accept the names of significant characters from period Arthurian literature as there is a pattern of such names being used in England and France in period. [Bedivere de Byron, 06/99, A-Atlantia]
Therefore, this name is registerable as an English given name in an otherwise German name. Combining English and German in a name is registerable, though it is a weirdness.

Two commenters asked whether the cross gurgity was too close to a swastika (or fylfot) to be registered without causing offense. The cross gurgity in this submission is drawn as it is in the Pictorial Dictionary: each arm curves smoothly to a hook which ends in a point. A swastika is drawn with arms which make a right angle and end bluntly. This seems to be sufficient visual distinction to avoid offense, especially as the commentary on the matter was more in the nature of a question about the charge - neither commenter stated that he or she found it difficult to distinguish this charge from a swastika, or that he or she took offense at the charge.

West, Kingdom of. Heraldic title Gonfanon Pursuivant.

No documentation was submitted for this name at all. The LoI simply stated that this title was: "previously registered to the West and released in December '93. We now wish to re-register [it]."

Items that are released and resubmitted fall into the category of new submissions. The Grandfather Clause does not apply since the items are no longer registered. Such items must be redocumented when they are resubmitted, just as if they were a new submission.

The missing documenation was provided by multiple members of the College. Crescent states:

A gonfanon is a period heraldic charge (qv Flag, Pictorial Dictionary, arms of the Counts of Auvern, c. 1275) and thus Gonfanon Pursuivant follows the period practice of using the name of a heraldic charge as a title.
As documentation was found for this submission, it may be registered.

Yosef ben Ami. Name (see RETURNS for device).

Submitted as Yosef Ze'ev ben Ami, the documentation provided in the LoI for the element Ze'ev was:
Ze'ev is from Encyclopedia Judaica, vol. 4, pg. 538; under the header Benjamin Ze'ev ben Mattathias of Arta who was a businessman from the early 16th century. A modern Hebrew dictionary gives Ze'ev as meaning "wolf".
Aryanhwy merch Catmael forwarded commentary regarding this name from Julie Stampnitzky:
<Ze'ev>: It's not clear that <Ze'ev> was used as a given name in period. In the example of <Benjamin Ze'ev>, it may be a literary alias. (See Academy of Saint Gabriel Report 1966 [http://www.s-gabriel.org/1966].) Note that <Benjamin Ze'ev> (or <Binyamin Ze'ev>, to give fully Hebrew form) can also be read as a Hebrew phrase meaning "Benjamin is a wolf"; this phrase occurs in the Bible, Genesis 49:27. Because of the Biblical reference, the double name <Binyamin Ze'ev> became popular post-period. On the other hand <Yosef Ze'ev> is not a meaningful combination. Even if the particular double name <Binyamin Ze'ev> was used in period, it doesn't necessarily show that <Ze'ev> would have been used in other combinations.

[...] <Yosef ben Ami> would be a fine early-period name."

Therefore, the only evidence we have of the use of Ze'ev in period is the cited example of it in the compound given name Benjamin Ze'ev which derives from a specific Biblical reference. (In a similar manner, the name Jean Baptiste derived from the Biblical reference to John the Baptist. Baptiste was not originally used as a given name on its own and would not have made sense when used in combination with a different given name at that time.) Lacking evidence that Ze'ev would have been used as a given name or byname on its own in period, or that it would have been used in a compound given name other than the cited Benjamin Ze'ev, the submitted combination Yosef Ze'ev is not registerable.

As the submitter allows any changes, we have dropped Ze'ev in order to register this name.

The following Western submissions were returned for further work:

Genevieve de Calais. Device. Ermine, on a chevron engrailed between three Maltese crosses gules a rose Or.

The ermine spots in the full-sized emblazon had identifiability problems. The spots were very numerous and small, and many of the spots were hampered further in their identifiability by being partially obscured by the chevron engrailed and the Maltese crosses. This lack of identifiability can be a reason for return under RfS VIII.3, which states in pertinent part "Identifiable elements may be rendered unidentifiable by significant reduction in size ... or by being obscured by other elements of the design."

Unfortunately, because there was a significant discrepancy between the artwork in the full-sized emblazon and the mini-emblazon provided to the College of Arms in the Letter of Intent, we were unable to get the College's input on this armorial style problem. The mini-emblazon illustrated the ermine field with 20 ermine spots, none of which were obscured by other charges in the armory. The full-sized emblazon shows 60 full or partially obscured ermine spots, each of which was much smaller proportionally than the ermine spots on the mini-emblazon. Usually we would rely heavily on the College's input to determine whether the ermine spots were in fact too unidentifiable to be registered under RfS VIII.3, or whether the submission's identifiability was sufficient to enable it to be registered, with an artistic note to the submitter to draw fewer, larger, and less obscured ermine spots.

A significant discrepancy between the full-sized and mini-emblazon can be reason for return in itself, and is certainly a reason for return when the mini-emblazon's depiction masks a significant style issue with the armory on the full-sized emblazon. The Administrative Handbook requirements for preparation of letters of intent state that "An accurate representation of each piece of submitted armory shall be included on the letter of intent." The Cover Letter for the April 2002 LoAR stated:

In the last few months, there have been cases where the mini-emblazon included with the Letter of Intent did not accurately represent the emblazon on the submission form. If the emblazon does not match the form, the CoA cannot produce useful commentary, which in turn does not allow a decision on that item. The CoA has enough to review without commenting on the "wrong" item. A mismatch between the LoI emblazon and what is on the submission form can be reason for administrative return. If you produce LoIs, please double-check that the mini-emblazons on your letters are a good representation of the emblazons on the submission forms.

Photoreduction is recommended over redrawing. Scanning can be used with care. Many complaints have been received about mini-emblazons which were produced by scanning at inappropriate settings, rendering elements of the armory invisible or otherwise unidentifiable.

Please also advise the submitter to draw fewer and larger engrailings on the chevron.

Mists, Principality of. Badge. Argent, a sea-wolf vert within a bordure engrailed azure.

Conflict with Dominic MacNamara, Argent, a fish-tailed demi-dog vert maintaining a Celtic cross gules and a chief invected azure. There is one CD for changing the chief to a bordure, but no difference for removing the small held Celtic cross, and no type difference between a sea-wolf and a fish-tailed demi-dog The two charges are effectively identical, except that the dog portions of Dominic's sea-creature have been replaced with the wolf portions of the Mists' sea-creature.

West, Kingdom of. Heraldic title Ferret Pursuivant.

No documentation was submitted for this name at all. The LoI simply stated that this title was: "previously registered to the West and released in December '93. We now wish to re-register [it]."

Items that are released and resubmitted fall into the category of new submissions. The Grandfather Clause does not apply since the items are no longer registered. Such items must be redocumented when they are resubmitted, just as if they were a new submission.

In this case, the issue is moot, as this name conflicts with Ferret Herald, which was registered to Trimaris in May 2002.

Yosef ben Ami. Device. Per pale azure and gules, a wolf's head cabossed and in chief two gouttes argent.

On the full-sized emblazon, it is not clear whether this submission consists of a primary charge of a wolf's head cabossed and two secondary goutes in chief (blazoned Per pale azure and gules, a wolf's head cabossed and in chief two gouttes argent), or if the gouttes and the wolf's head are co-primary charges arranged two and one (which would be blazoned Per pale azure and gules, two gouttes and a wolf's head cabossed argent). The difference between these two designs is not merely academic: the two designs are treated differently when considering conflict.

In the full-sized emblazon, the wolf's head is only somewhat larger than the gouttes. Since it is not uncommon in either period or SCA heraldry for the bottommost of a group of three charges two and one to be larger than the top two charges, this small size difference does not help clarify the nature of the armory. The wolf's head is also a bit higher on the field than is customary for the bottommost of three charges two and one, but not so much so that the ambiguity in interpreting the emblazon is removed. This ambiguity violates RfS VII.7.b, which states in pertinent part, "Any element used in Society armory must be describable in standard heraldic terms so that a competent heraldic artist can reproduce the armory solely from the blazon."

Unfortunately, because there was a significant discrepancy between the artwork in the full-sized emblazon and the mini-emblazon provided to the College of Arms in the Letter of Intent, we were unable to get the College's input on this armorial style problem. In the mini-emblazon provided to the College of Arms, the emblazon clearly depicted a primary wolf's head with secondary gouttes. In particular, the wolf's head was drawn much larger proportionally to the gouttes in the mini-emblazon than it was in the full-sized emblazon. Usually we would rely heavily on the College's input to determine whether the artwork in the submission was too ambiguous to be registered or whether it could legitimately be registered with instructions to the submitter on how to draw the emblazon more clearly.

A significant discrepancy between the full-sized and mini-emblazon can be reason for return in itself, and is certainly a reason for return when the mini-emblazon's depiction masks a significant style issue with the armory on the full-sized emblazon. The Administrative Handbook requirements for preparation of letters of intent state that "An accurate representation of each piece of submitted armory shall be included on the letter of intent." The Cover Letter for the April 2002 LoAR stated:

In the last few months, there have been cases where the mini-emblazon included with the Letter of Intent did not accurately represent the emblazon on the submission form. If the emblazon does not match the form, the CoA cannot produce useful commentary, which in turn does not allow a decision on that item. The CoA has enough to review without commenting on the "wrong" item. A mismatch between the LoI emblazon and what is on the submission form can be reason for administrative return. If you produce LoIs, please double-check that the mini-emblazons on your letters are a good representation of the emblazons on the submission forms.

Photoreduction is recommended over redrawing. Scanning can be used with care. Many complaints have been received about mini-emblazons which were produced by scanning at inappropriate settings, rendering elements of the armory invisible or otherwise unidentifiable.

In Service,

Eilis O'Boirne
Matins


SUBMISSONS – 7 September xxxvii (2003)

ITEMS SENT TO LAUREL

Aelia Apollina     (Crosston)     New Name Change
Her previous name, Aileth Gardiner, was registered in July ‘02. Her device was submitted to Laurel in April ‘03.

Aelia and Apollos are both cited in Common Names of the Aristocracy in the Roman Empire During the 6th and 7th Centuries (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/byzantine/early_byz_names.html. Aelia is a feminine name; Apollos is masculine. The byname is formed correctly according to St. Gabriel report 2086, by dropping the –os ending and adding -ina.

Dietrich Lorenz Uhl     (Caer Darth)     Name Submitted 4/03; Device Resubmission to Kingdom

Quarterly Or and sable, an owl gules between four crosses clechy counterchanged.

Eiríkr Snorrason     (Wuduholt be Secq)     Name and Device Resubmission to Kingdom

Per bend sinister rayonny gules and Or, two drinking horns counterchanged.
His previous submission, under the name Erik Firediver, was most recently returned in May ’03 for documentation. This name was submitted as Erik Snorrison. Eiríkr and Snorri are masculine given names found in the Landnamabok. He requested a name authentic for c.950 Norse, so we are forwarding the documentable forms.

The device is being redrawn to emphasize the rayonny line.

Eshabelle the Fair     (Fettburg)     New Name
Eshabelle is found in Feminine Given Names in King Stanley’s Marriages: 1573-1600 (http://www.s-gabriel.org/mari/kingsstanley/FemGivenNames). The byname is an English descriptive. Reaney’s Dictionary of British Surnames p.160 at Fair gives Henry le Vayre in 1297.

Gracye of Guthrie     (Golden Rivers)     Name Registered 2/03; New Device

Argent, on a bend Or fimbriated between two hearts purpure, three roses azure barbed and seeded proper.

Henri de Valery sur Somme     (Golden Rivers)     New Name
The name was submitted as Henri de Valéry-sur-Somme, but we could not document the use of the accent or hyphens in this name. Henri and de Valery are both found in French Names from Two 13th-Century Chronicles (http://www.panix.com/~mittle/names/arval/crusades/). The place name appears on the town website as SaintValery sur Somme, and is cited as “fort ancienne” – a copy is enclosed for Laurel. The “Saint” seems to be dropped in the context of personal names. (Saint Valery himself is dated to the 7th century.) The submittor wishes an authentic name for 15th-c France.

Hirsch von Henford     (Teufelberg)     New Badge

(Fieldless) Two stags’ heads erased, addorsed, and conjoined at the neck, Or.
His first choice was Vert, two stags’ heads erased, addorsed, and conjoined at the neck, Or. This was too similar to the badge registered to Forgal Kerstetter: Vert, two mooses’ heads eradicated and respectant, horns locked, Or. There is only one point, for change of position. Making the badge fieldless clears this problem

Isabel McThomais     (Selveirgard)     New Name and Device

Per fess argent and vert ermined argent, a sea-serpent undoyant issuant from the line of division azure.
Isabel is found in Black (p.422 at Leidhope) dated to 1584. The surname is a variant of one in Black (p.566 at MacTavish) – the citation is for Doncan M’Thamais in 1355. This is a variant spelling. (The submittor cites http://www.mactamhais.liquidweb.com/pswd2.htm for her documentation -- and that website seems to be quoting Black, but the page number is different. The website gives the desired spelling. Copies from the website will be enclosed for Laurel’s evaluation.)

Jimena Montoya     (Cloondara)     New Name and Device

Gules, a demi-maiden in her modesty and on a chief embattled argent, a sword fesswise gules.
Jimena is taken from A Partial List of Leonese and Castilian Given Names 1050-1200 (http://s-gabriel.org/names/diego/reilly.html). It seems to have continued in use. de Montoya appears in Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/isabella/locative.html). The surname without the article is found in the Charles Carroll Marden Collection of Spanish Documents (http://libweb.princeton.edu/libraries/firestone/rbsc/aids/marden.html), at document 36, where Maria Montoya is cited as the widow of Juan Dieste in 1614.

Kazdaya Ruslander     (Wolfscairn)     Name Registered 4/90; New Device Change

Purpure, a chief trefly-counter-trefly Or.
Her current device, Purpure, a garb and a chief trefly-counter-trefly Or (registered 12/90 in the East), is to be retained as a badge.

Rhys Gethin     (Darkwood)     New Name and Device

Vert semy-de-lys Or, the Archangel Michael argent, haloed Or.
Rhys is the standard modern spelling of the given name. The submitter cites it from A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystl/welsh13.html), however it is given there as the header spelling, not as a 13th century form. The submitter cites Gethin from the same source, however that spelling only occurs in the article as a hypothetical feminine form of the byname Cethin “swarthy”. The lenited form Gethin is, however, found as a masculine byname in a different 13th c. source: Jones, Francis. “The Subsidy of 1292”, Bulletin of the Board of Celtic Studes 13: 210-230 [covering the Marches].

The device is in conflict with a badge registered to the branch called Charlesbury Crossing, formerly known as the canton of the Guardians of the Sacred Stone. The name was changed in August 2000. He encloses a letter of permission to conflict dated in July 2000 and signed by the branch seneschal.

Richard of Alder Tree     (Teufelberg)     Name Registered 9/88; New Badge

(Fieldless) In saltire an ermine spot sable and a sword inverted argent.

Vivienne la Louve     (Ravensfjord)     New Name and Device

Or, a wolf statant to sinister, a bordure sable.
The name was submitted as Vivienne de la Louve, but we could not justify the surname in that form. Vivienne appears in the LoAR dated May 2002 at Vivienne de Lampéričre: “There was some question about the plausibility of Vivienne in period. Morlet, Dictionnaire étymologique des noms de famille, (p. 969 s.n. Vivien) gives Vivienne as a matronymic form. Combined with the example of Vivien le serjant in Colm Dubh's article "An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/paris.html), Vivienne is a plausible period form.” Reaney and Wilson Dictionary of English Surnames, 3rd edition (at Love, p.285) note one origin of that name being from louve, French for she-wolf and cite Robert le Love in 1279.

West, Kingdom of     (West)     Name Registered in antiquity, New Heraldic Title
The West Kingdom College of Heralds wishes to register the heraldic title “Chequey Herald” for the use of our College Exchequer. This should be an acceptable title as it is taken from a standard heraldic term.

William Alexander Johnston     (Vinhold)     New Name and Device

Argent, on a pile gules between two bears rampant addorsed sable, a torch Or.
This was submitted in May ’03 as a resubmission, and no payment was made. However, no prior submission could be found, and no payment was made. Payment has now been made.

William and Alexander are common English names. William is documented in Withycombe on p.293-294, although this spelling is not dated. Alexander is on.p 13, dated in this spelling to 1189. Johnston is the header spelling in Reaney’s Dictionary of British Surnames for a name documented as Jonestone to 1299 on p.198.


ITEMS RETURNED FOR FURTHER WORK
Daniel of Winter’s Gate     (Winter’s Gate)     New Name and Device Returned

Per pale azure and sable, a hawk migrant bendwise and three chevronels braced argent.
The name was submitted as a “holding name”, but it is registerable. Daniel is found on p. 78 of Withycombe and dated to 1189. The byname is the registered name of his barony. The name will be returned since, if it is registered and he wishes to change it, he will have to pay for a change.

The bird in the device is in an indistinct position and the chevronels are smaller than they should be – the device will be returned for redrawing.

Gavin Paidrean Fail     (Vinhold)     New Name and Device Returned

Or, on a chief triangular gules, a hawk migrant, wings displayed, argent.
The submittor thinks that the name means “white hawk of the vinyard”. Gavin is an actual name, and is cited in Withycombe (p.127 at Gawain) to 1604. Paidrean is a Scots Gaelic word derving from Irish Gaelic, meaning a rosary. It can, by extension, mean a cluster of grapes. The word fail has several meanings, none of which are “white”.

Since the name is not formed as a proper Scots Gaelic name, and since it does not mean what the submittor thinks it means, it will be returned. Since the name cannot be sent on, the device will also be returned for redrawing, since the bird is not in a distinct position.

Isabelle D’Angers     (Vale de Draco)     New Name and Device Returned

Azure, a key palewise, wards to dexter, between in fess two fleurs-de-lys Or.
Isabelle is found in several forms, although not this one, in Given Names from Brittany 1384-1600 (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/latebreton.html). This is, however, a standard spelling. Angers is the English form of the French city Angiers. The normal form of the name would use a lower case d’. Since the submittor requests an authentic French name, this will be returned for consultation.

The device is being returned for redrawing – and for clarification as to whether the key handle (a heart) is solid or voided.

Khevron Oktavii Tikhikovich Vorotnikov     (Winters Gate)     Name 11/96; Badge Resubmission to Kingdom Returned

Azure semy of cinquefoils Or, on a canton vert, a crown of three points voided Or.
The underlying badge is still in conflict with the device registered to Micheline Elphinstone: Azure, six roses two, two and two, Or. There is only one point, for the difference in number of five-petalled flowers. The Montforts are entitled to an augmented badge since they have been named Pillars of the West, but the unaugmented badge must also be registerable without the augmentation.

Laurel precedents are:

AUGMENTATIONS Augmentations are required to by themselves be free of conflict, as noted in the October 1998 LoAR (James Eldon of York, Kingdom of the Outlands). [Welfengau, Canton of, 10/99, R-Ealdormere]
[Sable, an annulet argent] Conflict with ... Sable, an annulet surmounted by three dragon's claws in pall conjoined at the tips argent between, as an augmentation, in fess two bezants and in pale in annulo an Oriental dragon passant to sinister and another passant inverted Or. The base armory is still protected, even with the augmentation, so there is only a single CD for the deletion of the overall charge group. [Cainneach mac Asgaill, 04/00, R-Artemisia]
[change to base device plus addition of augmentation]... as we protect both the augmented arms and the unaugmented arms, a device change and an augmentation must be submitted as two separate actions. [Galen of Bristol, 10/00, R-Ansteorra]
[Sable mullety of four chapé wavy Or, in chief two compass stars azure, as an augmentation, on a chalice Or, a laurel wreath vert] The shire requested this as a device change plus an augmentation; however, as can be seen by the blazon above, the augmentation is the charged chalice, therefore the device change must be to Sable mullety chapé wavy, in chief two compass stars azure. As armory with augmentations can be displayed without the augmentation, the device change is to a device without a laurel wreath, which by Administrative Handbook II.D.2, is required for all branches. [Riviere Constelle, Shire of, 01/01, R-Middle]
[rules change] VIII.7. Augmentations of Honor – An augmentation of honor must be compatible with period armorial style.
An augmentation is an honor bestowed by the crown, taking the form of an addition or alteration to the honoree's device. While the right to an augmentation is bestowed by the crown, its form is subject to the normal registration process. The augmentation must itself follow the armory rules; if it has the appearance of being independent armory, for example a charged escutcheon or canton, then it is independently subject to the normal rules of armorial conflict. The augmentation may, however, on a case by case basis break the rules in relation to the original armory. For example, Sable, on a chief argent a lion passant maintaining, in augmentation, an escutcheon gules charged with a cross throughout argent is acceptable even though it breaks RfS VIII.1.c.ii., Layer Limit. Gules, a lion argent, and in augmentation a canton argent charged with a tower Or is not acceptable, as the augmentation internally breaks RfS VIII.2., Armorial Contrast. Since an augmentation is an earned honor, it may in some cases violate RfS XI.3. Marshaling or RfS XI.4. Arms of Pretense and Augmentations of Honor. Arms in their augmented form are subject to the normal rules of conflict. [06/01, CL]

Rhys Gethin     (Darkwood)     Name Submitted 9/03; New Badge Returned

(Fieldless) A panther’s head cabossed Or incensed gules.
The badge is too similar to the device of Jehanne de Lyonesse: Vert, a lion’s head affronty Or orbed vert. The incensing is a detail that does not add difference.


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