Minutes of the May, 2003 Herald's Meeting

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The Kingdom Earl Marshall would like to request that the heralds stand a bit further away from the fighting after doing their announcements as their proximity, if too close, can lead to possibly dangerous situations (struck with a weapon, etc.)

Court heralds should remember that the courts and everything that takes place in them are at the Crown’s whim and permission. Please make sure that you have Their Majesties’ permission to administer any sort of chastisement to the populace during court, whether it is done in a serious or joking manner.

Old Thomas comes home to his New England farm after his visit to California. His friends in Maine ask him how he enjoyed his trip. “Oh, it was nice enough, but California’s too far from the ocean.”


The meeting was held on Sunday, 18 May 2003, at the home of Eilis O’Boirne. The meeting started at 12:15 pm and ended at 1:45 pm. In attendance at this meeting were: Gaius M.L. Auklandus, Vesper; Berengaria de Montfort de Carcassone, Sable Swan; Marguerite du Royon, Seawolf Herald; Astrið of Swansvale, Latimer; Frederick of Holland, Brachet; Teleri Tawel, Pursuivant for Crosston; Felix MacAvady, Pursuivant for Ste. Katherine; Wilhelm von Homburg, Neassa ingen Gilla Chriost mhic Cathasiagh, Geoffrey le Dragon, PEs at Large; Elsa Saxenkammer, Edith de Laufare and Emma FitzWilliam, cornets; and Eilis O’Boirne, Matins.

The upcoming meetings are: June 1, July 20, September 7, October 19, and November 16. Meetings are generally held at the home of Eilis O’Boirne, 2322 Russell Street, Berkeley, CA 94705. Call for directions. Meetings start at noon. There is no meeting scheduled for August or December 2003.

Anyone who is bringing a walk-in submission should contact Matins in advance. This is especially important if the submitter has previous submissions, since the files are stored in a remote location. If you are bringing a submission to a meeting, please plan to arrive by 11:00 am to allow the file to be set up.

We are researching some of the name submissions beforehand through an email list, names@synergy.transbay.net. This list is open by request to heralds in the West Kingdom who are interested in onomastic (name) research. To join the list, please contact Felix MacAvady at ha.raschid@sinewave.com.

Since there was no interest expressed in voice instruction at the monthly meetings, it is being discontinued as a regular feature. If interest is expressed in the future, it will probably be offered again.

HERALDS’ COLLEGIUM: The Fall Heralds’ Collegium is scheduled for November 15, the day before the November meeting – it will focus on book heraldry and the mechanics of running a court. It will probably be held in the Mists. If you know of any appropriate sites, please contact Baldric Pursuivant, Letitia de Scotia.

SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS: Until the end of June, submission fees are $8 per name, $8 per device, $8 per badge – and a name and device registered at the same time will cost $15 instead of $16. There is no fee for resubmission of a returned item. Submissions require 3 copies of the name form and documentation, 4 colored copies of the device form, and 3 colored copies of the badge form, as applicable. The submission forms for the West Kingdom College are now available from Matins or the Kingdom consultation table or by following the http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Register.htm#Forms. Completed forms should be sent to Matins at the College address.

MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please contact Felix MacAvady at ha.raschid@sinewave.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Eilis at heralds@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

These meetings comment on heraldic submissions from other Kingdoms. Please consider attending – you do not have to be able to attend every week. They are a fast way to learn how the Rules of Submission work and how to research armory. The Brachet meetings are in Berkeley on Wednesday nights. If you are interested, contact the Brachet Herald, Frederick of Holland (Fred Hollander) at 510-653-3652.

Cynaguan commenting meetings are starting up in Golden Rivers at the home of Antonio Giordano da Sicilia. The schedule is the 2nd and 4th Mondays of each month, 6:30 - 9:30 pm.  (1024 42nd Street; house is at the intersection of 42nd and J Streets; third house from the SW corner -- on the west side of the street). For additional information, contact the Sable Swan Herald.

West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds’ website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm. There is a colored version and a printer-friendly black and white version available.

The latest edition of the Armorial and Ordinary, along with updates for the previous editions, are available from Free Trumpet Press West along with other useful heraldic publications. Write for a free price list. The address is Free Trumpet Press West, 1613 N. School St. Normal, IL 61761-1240.

A Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry as Used in the Society for Creative Anachronism (by Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme and Akagawa Yoshio) is available by sending $15 to Bruce Miller, 1711 Tenth Street, Manhattan Beach, CA 90266, (310) 379-1321.

The LoAR for February has not been published. The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by Lord Laurel, please be sure to visit the site.

In Service,

Matins Herald

SUBMISSONS – 18 May xxxvii (2003)


Please note that there will not be a May letter of intent. Since the June meeting is June First, we will combine the May and June LoIs in the interests of conserving postage.

Aminah al-Zarqa’     (Selveirgard)     Correction of Name Submitted 04/03

The name was submitted as above, but my fingers insisted on typing a “u” after the “q”! (This was not caught in proofreading, either – that “u” after “q” thing has really been drummed into us…) The names are taken from Arabic Naming Practices and Period Names List ( www.s-gabriel.org/names/daud/arabic-naming/ by Daud ibn Auda). She will not accept major changes.

Bjarni Eðvarðarson af Jorvik     (Eskalya)     New Name and Device

Azure, on a chief Or, two ravens sable.
Bjarni is found on Pg. 8 of Geirr Bassi. Eðvarðr is found in Geirr Bassi on pg 9 – the patronymic is correctly formed. Af is the Norse word for “of/from” a place. Jorvik is found in Ekwall on pg. 545 under the heading of York. The spelling cited is Iorvík. The interchange of J and I in this case should be acceptable.

Bridget of Saint Katherine’s     (Saint Katherine’s)     New Name and Device

Gules, a dance between three hawk’s bells Or.
Bridget is her modern name, and a copy of her driver’s license is attached. Saint Katherine’s is the name of her SCA College.

Fergus Mac Thomais     (Selveirgard)     Name Registered 10/88; Device Resubmission to Kingdom

Argent, a fess embattled counterembattled azure between two ravens sable and a thistle proper.
His previous submission, in July ’88, was returned because it was too similar to registered items.

Erik Firediver     (Wuduholt be Secg)     Name and Device Resubmission to Kingdom

Or, a wooden torch enflamed proper, on a chief invected gules, three drinking horns Or.
Lind (col. 224) shows the spelling Erik in 1393 and later. Geirr Bassi has a couple of bynames using the element eld(r) meaning “fire”: plain Eldr (fire) and Eldboðunger (fire-bidder, whatever that means). We are not aware of any Norse bynames that would support the intended meaning.

The device is being returned so that the flames can be drawn in an heraldically correct manner.

William Alexander Johnston     (Vinhold)     New Name and Device Returned

Per chevron inverted gules and argent, a torch argent enflamed Or and argent and two bears climbant the sides of the shield sable, a bordure gules.
This was claimed as a resubmission. However, we have no record of the original paperwork ever having being submitted. Since there is no money accompanying the submission we are returning it for lack of funds.

William is found in Withycombe on pg 293 under the heading of the same spelling. Alexander is found in Withycombe on pg. 13 under the heading of the same spelling. Johnston is found in the Reaney and Wilson on pg. 256 as a heading spelling though it doesn’t show a citation dated to period. Once the fee is paid, the name should be acceptable.

The device has several issues which makes blazoning extremely difficult. In addition, the flame of the torch needs to be redrawn to conform with the requirements for proper heraldic depiction.

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