Minutes of the June, 2003 Herald's Meeting

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The “sale” on names, devices, and badges has been extended to include any submissions made by the July heralds’ meeting.

*****JOKE OF THE MONTH*** JOKE OF THE MONTH *** JOKE OF THE MONTH *****
Q.Why does a chicken coop have two doors?
A. If it had four doors, it would be a chicken sedan.

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MINUTES OF THE MONTHLY MEETING – 1 June xxxvii (2003)

The meeting was held on Sunday, 1 June 2003, at the home of Eilis O’Boirne. The meeting started at 12:30 pm and ended at 2:20 pm. In attendance at this meeting were: Gaius M.L. Auklandus, Vesper; Frederick of Holland, Brachet; Teleri Tawel, Pursuivant for Crosston; Anastacia Grindstead of RavenOak, Acting Glora Fjord Pursuivant; Maxen Dawel ap Morgan, PaL; Wilhelm von Homburg, Neassa ingen Gilla Chriost mhic Cathasiagh, Geoffrey le Dragon, Catherine de Gray, and Antonio Giordano da Sicilia, PEs at Large; Johanna Ludwiger von Hertesbergk, Anneke Grove of Scammonden, Elsa Saxenkammer, Edith de Laufare, and Emma FitzWilliam, cornets; and Eilis O’Boirne, Matins.

COLLEGE OF HERALDS MEETINGS
The upcoming meetings are: July 20, September 7, October 19, and November 16. Meetings are generally held at the home of Eilis O’Boirne, 2322 Russell Street, Berkeley, CA 94705. Call for directions. Meetings start at noon. There is no meeting scheduled for August or December 2003.

Anyone who is bringing a walk-in submission should contact Matins in advance. This is especially important if the submitter has previous submissions, since the files are stored in a remote location. If you are bringing a submission to a meeting, please plan to arrive by 11:00 am to allow the file to be set up.

We are researching some of the name submissions beforehand through an email list, names@synergy.transbay.net. This list is open by request to heralds in the West Kingdom who are interested in onomastic (name) research. To join the list, please contact Felix MacAvady at ha.raschid@sinewave.com.

Since there was no interest expressed in voice instruction at the monthly meetings, it is being discontinued as a regular feature. If interest is expressed in the future, it will probably be offered again.

ANNOUNCEMENTS
HERALDS’ COLLEGIUM: The Fall Heralds’ Collegium is scheduled for November 15, the day before the November meeting – it will focus on book heraldry and the mechanics of running a court. It will probably be held in the Mists. If you know of any appropriate sites, please contact Baldric Pursuivant, Letitia de Scotia.

SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS: Until the July herald's meeting, submission fees are $8 per name, $8 per device, $8 per badge – and a name and device registered at the same time will cost $15 instead of $16. There is no fee for resubmission of a returned item. Submissions require 3 copies of the name form and documentation, 4 colored copies of the device form, and 3 colored copies of the badge form, as applicable. The submission forms for the West Kingdom College are now available from Matins or the Kingdom consultation table or by following the http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Register.htm#Forms. Completed forms should be sent to Matins at the College address.

MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please contact Felix MacAvady at ha.raschid@sinewave.com.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Eilis at heralds@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.

BRACHET MEETINGS
These meetings comment on heraldic submissions from other Kingdoms. Please consider attending – you do not have to be able to attend every week. They are a fast way to learn how the Rules of Submission work and how to research armory. The Brachet meetings are in Berkeley on Wednesday nights. If you are interested, contact the Brachet Herald, Frederick of Holland (Fred Hollander) at 510-653-3652.

Cynaguan commenting meetings are starting up in Golden Rivers at the home of Antonio Giordano da Sicilia. The schedule is the 2nd and 4th Mondays of each month, 6:30 - 9:30 pm.  (1024 42nd Street; house is at the intersection of 42nd and J Streets; third house from the SW corner -- on the west side of the street). For additional information, contact the Sable Swan Herald.

HERALDIC PUBLICATIONS
West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes are published on the web. They may be read at or printed from the heralds’ website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm. There is a colored version and a printer-friendly black and white version available.

The latest edition of the Armorial and Ordinary, along with updates for the previous editions, are available from Free Trumpet Press West along with other useful heraldic publications. Write for a free price list. The address is Free Trumpet Press West, 1613 N. School St. Normal, IL 61761-1240.

A Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry as Used in the Society for Creative Anachronism (by Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme and Akagawa Yoshio) is available by sending $15 to Bruce Miller, 1711 Tenth Street, Manhattan Beach, CA 90266, (310) 379-1321.

EXCERPTS FROM THE LOAR
The LoAR for February has just been published. The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by Lord Laurel, please be sure to visit the site.

These were the Western acceptances (from our October meeting):

Alvegard van Bomwedde. Name and device. Per pale vert and Or, three oak leaves inverted counterchanged.

Listed on the LoI as Alvegard van Bomwedded, the submission form lists the form Bomwedde. The form Bomwedde is supported by the submitted documentation. We have, therefore, corrected this name to the submitted form Bomwedde.

Alvegard van Bomwedde. Badge. (Fieldless) An oak leaf inverted per pale Or and vert.

Anastasiia Mikhailova. Name and device. Per chevron purpure and vert, a triquetra within an orle argent.

Please advise the submitter to draw the per chevron line higher on the field and to draw the orle thicker.

Angelo d'Amico. Name.

Submitted as Angelo Benintendi D'Amico, the submitter requested authenticity for 13th to 14th C Italian and allowed any changes. As the College was unable to find evidence of double given names used in Italian in this time period, we have dropped the second given name in order to make this name authentic for the submitter's requested time and culture. We have also lowercased the initial letter in the byname d'Amico in order to follow period examples of names of this type.

Artus Quintus. Name change from Uilleam Catach O'Maoilbhreanainn (see RETURNS for device).

His previous name, Uilleam Catach O'Maoilbhreanainn, is released.

Asa Hrafnsdóttir. Name and device. Per fess Or and gules, two ravens respectant sable and a drakkar Or.

Submitted as Osa Hrafnsdóttir, the submitted form of this name had two weirdnesses. Osa was documented as a Swedish given name dated to 1406. Hrafnsdóttir is an Old Norse patronymic byname. Combining Swedish and Old Norse in a name has previously been ruled a weirdness (Bjarki Einarson, April 2002). Since Old Norse dates to the 11th C and earlier, this name had a second weirdness for a temporal disparity of greater than 300 years. We have changed the given name to Asa, the Old Norse form of Osa, in order to register this name.

Brenna Bethan. Name and device. Per bend sinister azure and Or, in bend sinister three suns Or and in bend sinister three decrescents azure.

Caoilinn Rose Maddox. Name and device. Argent, three chevronels braced and in chief three roses azure.

Submitted as Caoillain Rose Maddox, the submitter requested authenticity for an Irish given name and an English surname. Ó Corráin & Maguire (p. 41 s.n. Cáelfind) lists Caoilinn, not Caoillain. Lacking evidence that Caoillain is a plausible period form of Caoilinn, it is not registerable. We have changed this name to the documented form Caoilinn in order to register this name.

Since two bynames sometimes occurred in a single name in late period England, we have left both Rose and Maddox in this name. However, lacking evidence that a Gaelic given name, rather than an Anglicized Irish given name, would be combined with English bynames in period, this name is not authentic for forms of names found in England or Ireland in period.

Cassandra of Crosston. Device. Sable, on a plate a dragon in annulo wings closed azure all within an orle argent.

Please advise the submitter to draw the orle thicker.

Cassandra of Crosston. Badge. (Fieldless) A dragon in annulo wings closed azure.

Cristina Angelini. Name.

Submitted as Cristina Maria Angelini, the submitter requested authenticity for 13th to 14th C Italian. No evidence was found that two given names were used in Italian this early. As the submitter allows any changes, we have dropped the given name Maria in order to meet the submitter's request for authenticity.

Dimarus von Türingen. Name.

Edith de Laufare. Name and device. Azure, a tree eradicated argent between two pallets ermine.

Good name!

Emma Fitzwilliam. Name and device. Sable, a swan naiant argent within a bordure argent semy-de-lys purpure.

Gracye of Guthrie. Name.

Iosef Braun. Name and device. Per pale Or and gules, an eagle counterchanged.

Nice device, which goes well with the German name.

Iosef Braun. Badge. (Fieldless) An eagle per pale gules and Or.

Sæunn Egilsdóttir. Name.

Submitted as Saeunn Egilsdottir, the submitter requested authenticity for "Viking/Icelandic" and allowed minor changes. The submitted form of this name uses spellings found in a modern translation of The Sagas of Icelanders. We have modified this name to use forms listed in Geirr Bassi to meet the submitter's request for authenticity.

Thaddeus Maddox. Name and device. Argent, three double roses and a chief embattled purpure.

Please advise the submitter to redraw the embattlements so that they have even widths and so that they are as deep as they are wide.

The following Western submissions were returned for further work:

Artus Quintus. Device change. Argent, a chi-rho gules.

A chi-rho is functionally a single abstract symbol. Although most two-letter combinations would not be so considered, the chi-rho has, through long use in religious symbolism, achieved an independent identity as a single abstract symbol. "Current precedent disallows the registration of solitary abstract symbols" (July 2000 LoAR, reaffirmed in August 2001).

Jean de Leedes. Badge. Argent, in pale a mullet of eight points pierced gules and two wolves combatant azure.

The mini-emblazon depicted the wolves so that they were notably larger than the mullet of eight points pierced, matching the original blazon, Argent, two wolves combatant azure and in chief a mullet of eight pierced gules. However, on the submission form, the three charges are of roughly equal size. As a result, the College has not had an opportunity to correctly comment on the armory presented for submission. The Cover Letter for the April 2002 LoAR stated:
In the last few months, there have been cases where the mini-emblazon included with the Letter of Intent did not accurately represent the emblazon on the submission form. If the emblazon does not match the form, the CoA cannot produce useful commentary, which in turn does not allow a decision on that item. The CoA has enough to review without commenting on the "wrong" item. A mismatch between the LoI emblazon and what is on the submission form can be reason for administrative return. If you produce LoIs, please double-check that the mini-emblazons on your letters are a good representation of the emblazons on the submission forms.

Photoreduction is recommended over redrawing. Scanning can be used with care. Many complaints have been received about mini-emblazons which were produced by scanning at inappropriate settings, rendering elements of the armory invisible or otherwise unidentifiable.

This submission must therefore be returned.

Khevron Oktavii Tikhikovich Vorotnikov. Device change. Per pale vert and sable all semy of caltrops, a talbot passant argent.

The caltrops are too many and too small to be recognized. This is a reason for return by RfS VIII.3.

The mini-emblazon on the letter of intent was not representative of the full-sized emblazon and had a smaller number of larger caltrops. As a result, the College was not able to adequately comment on the armory. The Cover Letter for the April 2002 LoAR stated:

In the last few months, there have been cases where the mini-emblazon included with the Letter of Intent did not accurately represent the emblazon on the submission form. If the emblazon does not match the form, the CoA cannot produce useful commentary, which in turn does not allow a decision on that item. The CoA has enough to review without commenting on the "wrong" item. A mismatch between the LoI emblazon and what is on the submission form can be reason for administrative return. If you produce LoIs, please double-check that the mini-emblazons on your letters are a good representation of the emblazons on the submission forms.

Photoreduction is recommended over redrawing. Scanning can be used with care. Many complaints have been received about mini-emblazons which were produced by scanning at inappropriate settings, rendering elements of the armory invisible or otherwise unidentifiable.

West, Kingdom of the. Heraldic title Raven Pursuivant.

This name conflicts with Order of the Raven registered to the Barony of Raven's Fort in October 2002. As designators are transparent for conflict purposes, there is no difference for the change from Order to Pursuivant.

Wilhelm von Düsseldorf. Badge. Sable estencely, on a point pointed argent a cattail slipped and leaved proper.

This emblazon does not clearly use a point pointed, nor does it clearly use a per chevron division. This is reason for return by RfS VII.7.a.

The top of the point pointed is slightly above the fess line in the large sized emblazon. The mini-emblazon showed a standard point pointed, which was notably shorter than the one in the full-sized emblazon. Therefore, the difference between the mini-emblazon and the full-sized emblazon did not allow the College to comment properly on this submission. The Cover Letter for the April 2002 LoAR stated:

In the last few months, there have been cases where the mini-emblazon included with the Letter of Intent did not accurately represent the emblazon on the submission form. If the emblazon does not match the form, the CoA cannot produce useful commentary, which in turn does not allow a decision on that item. The CoA has enough to review without commenting on the "wrong" item. A mismatch between the LoI emblazon and what is on the submission form can be reason for administrative return. If you produce LoIs, please double-check that the mini-emblazons on your letters are a good representation of the emblazons on the submission forms.

Photoreduction is recommended over redrawing. Scanning can be used with care. Many complaints have been received about mini-emblazons which were produced by scanning at inappropriate settings, rendering elements of the armory invisible or otherwise unidentifiable.

William Blood the Merchant. Name.

No forms were received for this submission.

In Service,

Eilis
Matins Herald


SUBMISSONS – 1 June xxxvii (2003)

ITEMS SENT TO LAUREL

Aeschine Colquhoun     (Silver Desert)     New Name and Device

Argent, a wolf rampant to sinister sable, a chief raguly purpure.
Aeschine is taken from Talan Gwynek’s A List of Feminine Personal Names found in Scottish Records, Part II: Pre-1400 Names (http://www.panix.com/~mittel/names/talan/scottishfem/scottishfemearly.html) and is dated to 1160. Colquhoun is on p.163 of Black, dated in this spelling to before 1241.

Deirdre of Saint Brendan’s     (St. Brendan’s)     New Name and Device

Argent, a bend sinister dancetty sable, overall a heart azure.
Deirdre is an Irish Gaelic name which was used only in literature in period but it was declared SCA-compatible in March 1998 by Jaelle of Armida. Saint Brendan’s is the registered name of her SCA College.

Lisa van Roosebeke     (Golden Rivers)     New Name and Device

Argent, a sun gules, on a chief sable, three crescents argent.
Lisa is her legal name, and copies of her driver’s license are attached. Roosebeke is a location in Flanders known for the Battle of Roosebeke in the 14th century. The submittor has provided us with several citations from various websites to support her desired spelling, but we were not able to find it in any of our standard references. The modern spelling is Roosbeek, and Rosebeke is dated to the 13th c. in Debrabandere Kortrijkse Naamkunde, p.158.

William Blood the Merchant          Name Resubmission to Laurel
William is on p.293 of Withycombe; this spelling is not dated. Blood is on p 50 of Reaney & Wilson; this is the header spelling and the spelling Blod is dated to 1256. The byname is a simple descriptive.

This name was returned by Laurel at his February meeting for lack of forms. We apologize for the delay this caused, but were unaware of the lack of forms until we received the LoAR.

ITEMS RETURNED FOR FURTHER WORK

NONE!!


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