Minutes of the February, 2002 Herald's Meeting

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MINUTES -3 February xxxvi (2002)

The meeting was held on Sunday, 3 February 2002, at the home of Eilis O'Boirne. The meeting started at 12:00 noon. and ended at about 3:30 pm, after which some of us went out for either a late lunch or an early dinner. In attendance at this meeting were: Mary Elizabeth Fairweather, Vesper; Gaius ML Auklandus, Greencloak; Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasfryn, Harpy; Frederick of Holland, Brachet; Astrið of Swansvale, Latimer; Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym, Baldric; Teleri Tawel, Pursuivant for Crosston; Felix McAvady, Pursuivant Extraordinary for St. Katherine's; Owen ap Morgan and Maxen ap Morgan, Pursuivants at Large; Anahita bint-'abd al-Karim, Cornet; Letitia de Scotia, incoming Baldric; and Eilis O'Boirne, Matins.


The upcoming meetings are: March 10, April 21, May 12, June 9, July 21, September 8, October 20, and November 24. Meetings are generally held at the home of Eilis O'Boirne, 2322 Russell Street, Berkeley, CA 94705. Call for directions. Meetings start at noon.

NOTES: 1) The March meeting will be held in Sacramento following the Heralds' Collegium (see below). It will be held at the home of Antonio Giordano da Sicilia in Golden Rivers - the address will be provided at the Collegium and in next month's Minutes.

2) There is no meeting scheduled for August or December. We will not be meeting during those months.

ANYONE WITH WALK-IN SUBMISSIONS SHOULD CONTACT MATINS IN ADVANCE. This is especially important if the submitter has previous submissions, since the files are stored in a remote location (which is the fancy way of saying that we haven't moved them yet ...).

Currently we are researching some of the name submissions beforehand through an e-mail list, names@synergy.transbay.net. The Names list is open by request to heralds in the West Kingdom who are interested in research. To join the list, please contact Felix MacAvady at ha.raschid@sinewave.com.

Please send all correspondence (submissions, queries, etc.) to the address for the Matins Herald on the Contacts page of this website! Please do NOT send submissions to Vesper or to any other member of the College.


HERALDS' COLLEGIUM: A Heralds' Collegium will be held in the Sacramento area on March 9 and 10. On Saturday, there will be a full day of classes for both beginning and continuing heralds - we will cover book heraldry, field heraldry, and court heraldry. We will adjourn to a nearby restaurant for dinner, and will then convene at the home of Antonio Giordano da Sicilia for a revel and court practicum. (Ask someone who was at last year's Collegium about the court practicum ...) On Sunday, Antonio has offered to host the monthly meeting. Please plan to attend both days - we are planning sessions that will be educational and fun. See the end of the Minutes for a flyer suitable for distribution at local meetings!

SUBMISSION FORMS: The submission forms are now available from Matins or the Kingdom consultation table or by following the appropriate links at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Register.htm#Forms. Completed forms should be sent to Matins at the above address. Current submission fees are $10 per name, $10 per device, $10 per badge. There is no fee for resubmission. Submissions require 3 copies of the name form and documentation, 4 colored copies of the device form, and 3 colored copies of the badge form, as applicable.

ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including West Kingdom submission forms, the Laurel home page, on-line armorial and ordinary search and The Academy of St. Gabriel (a heraldic consultation service). Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Eilis at baroness_eilis@juno.com -- answers may take a few days.

The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please contact Matins at baroness_eilis@juno.com.

KNOWN WORLD HERALDIC AND SCRIBAL ARTS SYMPOSIUM 2002: will be hosted by the Kingdom of Trimaris on June 21-23, 2002, at the Ramada Plaza Hotel & Inn Gateway in Kissimmee, Florida. Information is available at http://www.kwhs.org/.


These meetings comment on heraldic submissions from other Kingdoms. Please consider attending. They are a fast way to learn how the Rules of Submission work and how to research armory. The Brachet meetings are in Berkeley on Wednesday nights. If you are interested, contact the Brachet Herald, Frederick of Holland (Fred Hollander) at (510) 653-3652.


West Kingdom College of Heralds Minutes may be read at or printed from the heralds' website at http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Minutes.htm.

Updates to the Armorial and Ordinary are available from Free Trumpet Press West along with other useful heraldic publications. Write for a free price list. The address is Free Trumpet Press West, 1613 N. School St. Normal, IL 61761-1240.

A Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry as Used in the Society for Creative Anachronism (by Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme and Akagawa Yoshio) is available in the United States by sending $15 to Bruce Miller, 1711 Tenth Street, Manhattan Beach, CA 90266, (310) 379-1321.


As of this writing (on February 4), the LOAR for Laurel's November meeting (which does include Western submissions) had not arrived.

In Service,


Matins Herald

SUBMISSIONS - 3 February xxxvi (2002)


Adriana Featherstonehaugh     (Prin. Mists)      New Name and Device

     Per pale sable and argent, a vol inverted counterchanged and a chief azure.

Adriana is given on p.5 of Withycombe as "used very rarely". It is used in Shakespere's Comedy of Errors. Featherstonehaugh is on p.125 of Reaney's DBS - this is the header spelling, but the spelling "Fetherstanehalg" is dated to 1204.

The device was submitted with a chief indented, drawn as "indented of one dent", which does not exist (even in Elvin, storehouse of all blazon Victorian). The plain chief was an allowed alternate.

Catherine of Wessex     (Esfenn)      New Device; Name Registered 8/91 in Ansteorra

     Purpure, a chevron and in base a heart, all within a bordure Or.

She will be advised to draw the chevron wider.

Constanza de Mendoza     (Crosston)      New Name Change; Name Registered 12/93

Her currently registered name is Bridgit ferch Teleri, which is to be released if this submission passes.

Constanza can be found at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/spanish.html in Kathy Van Stone's "16th Century Spanish Women's Names". de Mendoza is found in Helen Nader's The Mendoza Family in the Spanish Renaissance 1350-1550, (c)1979, Rutgers University Press - it gives Menda de Mendoza, María de Mendoza, et al. Copies will be enclosed for Laurel.

Her device of "Vert, a sun within an orle Or" was registered in January 1994 and will be retained.

Helena d'Évreux     (Silver Desert)      Name Registered 8/96; Resubmission to Kingdom of Badge

     On a cushion gules, tassled Or, a terrier sejant defamed argent, collared purpure.

This is essentially the same as her previous submission, but the drawing is now more heraldically correct and the dog-type is documented.

Lyonnete la Rousse     (Prin. Mists)      New Name and Device Change;Name Registered 3/96, Device Registered 4/96

     Quarterly sable and gules, a lion rampant within an orle of suns Or.

Her currently registered name is Adriana FitzWilliam, which is to be released if this submission passes.

Lyonnete is from the 1292 Census of Paris (Colm Dubh, 1996 Montgomery AL Symposium Proceedings). la Rousse is found in the same source, at Aalis la Rousse.

Her previous device, "Per chevron lozengy ermine and vert, and sable, in base a sun within a bordure Or", is to be released if this submission passes.

Rosa di Marco     (Golden Rivers)      Resubmission to Kingdom of Device; Name on LoI 7/01

     Or, on a pentagon inverted gules, a mullet throughout Or.

This is a redesign of her previous submission, which had five lozenges arranged as a mullet.

Stefana de' Medici     (Wolfscairn)      New Name & Device

     Argent, three holly leaves in pall conjoined at the stems vert between three clusters of holly berries gules.

Stefana can be found at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/catasto in Josh Mittleman's Feminine Given Names from the Online Catasto of Florence of 1427. Medici is cited at p.167 of Fucilla; de' Medici is found at http://newadvent.org/cathen/03443a.htm (a biography of Catherine de' Medici in a Catholic Encyclopedia entry). A copy will be provided to Laurel.

Stephan of Caerleon     (Southern Shores)      New Device Submission; Name Registered 6/96

     Per bend sinister sable and argent, a cross with a bordure counterchanged.

He will be told to draw the cross a bit thinner.

West, Kingdom of the     (West)      Resubmission to Kingdom of Badge

     (Fieldless) A crossbow between and conjoined to an oak chaplet surmounted in base by a rose Or.

This badge will be used by the Royal Company of Archers and the Royal Company of Yeomen. It was previously returned for lack of a note from the Royalty. There is now a note signed by Their Majesties Hauoc and Ginevra supporting this registration.


Alfred of Greyvale     (Silver Desert)      Name Registered 9/97; Resubmission to Kingdom of Badge

     Argent, in saltire a drinking horn proper banded and debruised by a feather, all within an orle, gules.

There are several problems with this badge - the first is that the colors used were orange and gold. Gules should be much more red and gold is definitely not "proper" for a drinking horn. Second, no "proper" has been established for a drinking horn. Even if the "proper" was gold, it could not be put on argent. Third, the orle is drawn too narrow. Fourth, the horn should be crossing the feather. If the badge is redrawn and colored red, it should clear.

This is a complete redesign from the previous submission.

Brendan McNeill     (Fettburg)      New Name

Brendan is given on p.34 of O'Corrain and Maguire as an anglicized form of Breanain. McNeill is given on p.164 of MacLysaght as an anglicized form of MacNéill.

The name is in conflict with Brendan ap Niall, registered in October 1984 in the West.

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March 9 and 10, 2002
Kingdom of the West (Carmichael, CA)

OYEZ!!!! OYEZ!!!!

The West Kingdom College of Heralds is holding

for ALL interested people. Classes will include beginning and refresher courses. On Sunday we will put that training to use at the monthly Heralds' Meeting, at which we will consider name and device submissions made in the previous month. Come, join us, learn something new and have fun.

Classes will begin at 9:00 a.m. on Saturday, so please plan to arrive by 8:30 a.m. Site opens at 8:00 a.m.

9:00 a.m.Book Heraldry (names and devices)
  • Vocabulary of Blazon
  •    Frederick
  • Beginning Research - Blazon
  •    Frederick
  • Beginning Research - Names
  •    Tangwystl & Astrith
    1:00 p.m.Court Heraldry (theory)
  • How to Organize Business for Court
  •    Hirsch
    3:00 p.m.Field Heraldry (how to shout)
  • Practical Pronunciation for Heralds
  •    Tangwystl
  • Voice Production and Projection
  •    Gwenhwyfaer/Magnus
  • Practical Aspects of Field Heraldry
  •    Gaius/Gwenhwyfaer/Magnus
    EveningCourt Heraldry (practicum)   Meg/Eilis/Gaius/et alia

    We are planning a pleasant evening of fun and entertainment -- in other words, the Court Practicum will also be a revel! Please bring drinks and munchies to share.


    Noon     Traveling Heralds' Meeting -- practice what you've learned

    Crash space is available for those who wish to stay over for the Heralds' Meeting on Sunday. Please contact the autocrat.

    AUTOCRAT: Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym (Ginni Morgan), 4332 Tallyho Drive, Sacramento, CA, (916) 363-2473 (home) or (916) 323-4268 (work), e-mail:

    SITE: Saturday daytime: Carmichael Presbyterian Church, 5645 Marconi Avenue, Carmichael, CA 95608

    Saturday evening and Sunday: 1024 - 42nd Street, Sacramento, CA 95819

    DIRECTIONS: Saturday: Take your best route to either I-80 or Hwy 50 in Sacramento. From I-80 (east or west) take Watt Ave. (south) exit. Go south approx. 2 miles to Marconi Ave, turn left on Marconi Ave. Go approx. 3 miles. The site will be on your left. (California mission style building) From Hwy 50 (east or west), take Watt Ave. (north) exit. Go north approx. 3 miles to Marconi Ave, turn right on Marconi. Proceed as above.

    Sunday: Take your best route to Bus. 80 in downtown Sacramento. From eastbound Bus. 80, take N St. off ramp, bear to left onto 30th St., go 4 blocks and turn right on J St. Go to 42nd St. and turn right. It's the third house on the right. From westbound Bus. 80, take J St. exit and turn left. Go to 42nd St. and turn right.

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