How to Run a Lists
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How to Run a Lists
Date Written: Spring, 1986
Last Updated: Summer, 2016
Author: Duke Paul of Bellatrix
Policy Level: Informational
Intended Audience: All
Abstract: Copy of an article from the Known World Handbook, describing one
possible way to run a Lists. For use by the heralds when no Lists Officer is present.
(Used with His Grace' permission.)
These guidelines will help you run a Lists accurately,
efficiently, and fairly, but they are not the only way to do the
job.Use them as a point of departure, and feel free to modify
your approach if following them rigidly would cause
unfairness or unpleasantness for the fighters.
SINGLE ELIMINATION LISTS
This method is designed to avoid byes in the later
rounds of the tournament, since they offer a significant
advantage in a singleelimination Lists.You avoid lateround
byes – this is, fighters who have no opponent, and thus pass
on to the next round by default – by consolidating them all at
the beginning, as follows:

Determine the number of fighters.

Take this number and subtract the largest power of
two that will result in a positive remainder. (That is, 2, 4, 8, 16,
32, 64, etc.)

The remainder gives you the number of matches
required for the first round. Half the fighters in the firstround
lose and therefore get eliminated, giving you an even power
of two for the remainder of the Lists – which will give you a
guaranteed twoman finals with no further byes. Consult with
the presiding Nobility regarding the selection of fighters for
the first round.

Set up the matches for the second and succeeding
rounds in a “tree structure.” (Figure 1.) Use whatever system
the presiding Nobility decree for pairing the secondround
fights – by challenge, by drawing lots, by seeding the most
powerful fighters, etc.
For example, assume that there are 11 fighters in the
Lists. Eight is the power of two used as a subtractor, giving
a remainder of three. The first round will consist of three
fights, eliminating three fighters and leaving a total of eight
for the second round. This drops to four fighters for the third
round, and two for the fourth, which is the finals. If someone
withdraws from the Lists in the later rounds, it is better to
advance the last opponent defeated by the withdrawing
fighter than to set up a lateround bye or a threeway final.
Figure 1
DOUBLE ELIMINATION LISTS
This method works for the usual doubleelimination Lists,
where each combatant takes two losses before dropping
out, and also for larger eliminations – up to and including
full round robin, where each fighter meets all the others in
the course of the tournament. (In a round robin, the victor is
the one with the fewest losses at the end, with ties settled
eitherby consulting records of matches between the leaders
or by holding a singleelimination Lists for the top two or
four finishers.)
Set up the firstround fights in whatever manner is
acceptable to the presiding Nobility. Once the first round is
set, follow the procedure given below:

Write all the names on a scoresheet and number them,
with each of the first pairs on adjacent lines of the sheet.
(Figure 2.) Write the number of each fighter’s opponent in
the upper half of the firstround square by his name. After
the match, enter “W” or “L” in the lower half of the square.
For reach subsequent round, continue to enter the
opponent’s numbers and the results of each fight in this
manner.
Figure 2

On a separate worksheet, write the numbers of the
fighters in a vertical column labeled “Round 1". (Figure 3.)
Draw a bracket between the numbers 1 and 2, 3 and 4, etc. to
indicate the matches. Repeat for each round, retaining only
the numbers of those fighters still in the Lists . (Circle the
numbers of those who lose, to help keep track of which
numbers to drop.)
How to set up the matches using the worksheet:

The prime rule is that every unassigned fighter is
matched against the firstname below his that he has
not already fought.To avoid rematches, split the pair
above the one involved in the rematch, and match
them against the problem set. If splitting the previous
match does not suffice, split matches as far up as is
necessary. In a long lists – especially involving triple
or greater elimination – rematches may become
unavoidable. Once they start to occur, you’ll find
they become common for the rest of the Lists.

Keep the numbers on the worksheet in order, unless
a fighter gets a bye. In that case, move his number to
the top of the next column for the next round, and
leave it in that relative position for laterrounds. Since
the worksheet – NOT the scoresheet – determines
the order of matches, his next fight will be the first of
the next round.
Lists run in this manner become a continuum, rather than
a set of discrete rounds. This has the effect of greatly
reducing or eliminating the advantages of a bye. There need
be little or no pause between rounds, since you can set up
early matches in the next round – and even have them fought
– before the later matches in the current round are complete.

When a fighter has been eliminated, drop his number
from the worksheet and cross out the rest of the row on the
scoresheet. (Use a wavy line, preferably in a different color
from the regular scores.)

Before the Lists start, figure out precisely how they
will be concluded, and make sure the Nobility presiding at
the event agree to the system you plan to use. The options
are:

Run the elimination till only one fighter remains.

Stop the elimination when there are two fighters left,
then have a besttwooutofthree final round. This
effectively forgives all previous losses; as a variant,
you may choose to forgive all losses except those
against the other finalist.
Figure 3